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I often find myself In a world of regret when I look back at some of the shaft & grips I loved and can no longer source at a reasonable cost or with continuity.

 

So two questions for you:

 

1. Which shaft/grip products do you wish were still available?

 

2. What products have you moved on to since your supplies dried up?

 

 

 

 

 

So for me the products are quite straight forward but alas hard to replace.

 

Shafts

 

Graphite Design Purple Ice - Not the shoddy remake but the original version favoured by Greg Norman in the early days and I think Jim Furyk & Bernhard Langer. Was such a good fairway shaft for me and had used it in nearly half a dozen clubs before my clearance stock dwindled. I've never really found something that offered quite the same.

 

Graphite Design Pershing - A similar story for this one, used in a fair few drivers for me and then used the pulls in fairway woods (I still have one in play). It seems Graphite design has gone to an upper echelon on price and technology in the past few years and finding the affordably priced ones with Mid Launch and Spin are hard to come buy.

 

Oban Devotion - While not discontinued these are harder and harder to find as pulls and their price seems to have jumped upon the arrival of the Kiyoshi Line and surprisingly the more availability as an upcharge.

 

 

I've used Wishon Data in the past to find comparables but alas no joy in finding something that I buy freely and easily.

 

Grips

 

Golf Pride Victory Full Cord - Enough said really. Great grip and although re released, hard to find.

 

Golf Pride Tour Wrap Full cord - My true favourite. The Lamkin UTX wrap has been my closest comparable but still not the same.

 

Lamkin Deep Etched Paddle Full Cord - My nemesis, I'd love these to appear again. Particularly as the non cord version is slowly gaining traction on OEM lines.

 

I've gone boring since and settled for Tour Velvets. They will always be around!

Driver: M1 2016
Fairway: Jet Speed Tour
Hybrid: Adams Tour Proto 19˚
DI: Mizuno FliHi 18º
Irons: 714 AP2 4-PW
Wedges: Callaway Tour Grind 52˚ & 58˚
Putter: Spider CS Original

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I've been buying the heck out of Victory grips at Dick's Sporting Goods. They have the non-cord version for $2.99 at my local store, and the full-cords are only $5.99! Needless to say, I've been stocking up. As far as components that I wish were still around, a lot of the older Snake Eyes stuff from Golfsmith's heyday was pretty good. Golfworks also used to carry a lot of good left-handed components back in the day as well. If we'd only known how far the industry would nosedive, we probably would've stocked up on a lot more good club heads, wouldn't we? It makes me really sad to see the state of the golf component industry nowadays, not to mention the state of the game itself... I think all the new smartphone and tablet technology has really hurt the game. Nobody wants to get outside and spend a few hours playing a real round of golf. The high prices of greens fees and golf clubs sure don't help either. It makes me pine for the early 2000's when component companies and the game were growing like crazy. Now all young people seem to want to do is text and snapchat each other all day. Lame!!!

Bag 1                                                                                        Bag 2

PING G400 Max 10.5° UST Attas 4U 6TS 44"                      PING G25 10.5° Graphite Design 2419S Prototype

Taylormade SLDR Mini 14° Kuro Kage Blue 70X 42.5"         PING G25 3 Wood Aerotech Steelfiber ss75 S

Callaway V Series 5 Wood Diamana Kai'Li 80S 41.5"           PING G25 5 Wood Aerotech Steelfiber ss85 S

Callaway Rogue 7 Wood Diamana Kai'Li 80S 41"                 PING G25 23° Hybrid KBS Tour V 110

Callaway Rogue 24° Hybrid Tour AD DI 95X                        PING G25 Irons 5-UW KBS Tour V 120

Mizuno JPX 900 Hot Metal 6-GW AMT Tour White s300   PING Glide 54° SS and 58° TS KBS 610 125

Mizuno T20 54° and 60° DG TI s400                                   PING Sigma Tyne H

Odyssey O-Works Red 7s

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For me, the shafts I wish were still around are:

 

Diamana White Board (the originals)

Diamana Blue Board (again, the originals)

Fujikura Rombax Z series

Fujikura Rombax W series

Grafalloy Pro Launch Platinum

True Temper EI-70

 

For grips I'd say the following:

Golf Pride Tour Wrap Full Cord and Half Cord

Golf Pride V50 Full Cord

 

For shafts, I've moved to the Diamana Kai'li and S+ series in lieu of the Blue Board and W series Rombax, I haven't really found what I feel to be an equal to the White Board or Rombax Z, though the Fuel Tour Spec was pretty close. Grip wise, I've moved to NDMC grips for the last several years.

Titleist TS4 8.5* Diamana D+ LTD 70 X
Titleist 917F2 18* (turned down to 17.25*) Diamana S+ 80X
4 - 718 Titleist AP3 Project X 6.0
4-P 718 Titleist AP2 Project X 6.0
White Satin Mizuno MP T7 51-08 Modus 3 105X
Blue Ion Mizuno MP T7 55-09 Modus 3 105X Soft Stepped
Blue Ion Mizuno MP T7 59-09 Modus 3 105X Soft Stepped
Scotty Cameron Studio Select Fastback 1

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I agree with the steel shafts for woods -- pretty much impossible to find anything other than DG or high priced Nippons. DG SL was great. Graphite, I liked the Fujikura Banzai -- granted it was a fairway shaft, but it was solid. Picked up a couple of of the hybrid shafts recently.

Adams 9015D 10.5* Aldila Longwood 47.5"
SMT AF460c 12* Wishon Red S2S 44"
Tour Edge Exotics E8 16.5* 4 wood
Knuth High Heat 19* hybrid or Tour Edge Exotics XCG-7 19* 
Bridgestone Access VP-02, 6-AW
Inazone EZ-PZ CNC wedge 52* & 60*
Otey Crisman 41"

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Project X steel wood shafts. The BEST shaft I've ever played in a fw.

 

Fit-On Pro95 - simple, classic

 

I've since used various other heavy graphite shafts.

M6 9°  Fujikura Ventus 6
TS2 15°  Diamana S+ Ltd 70
790UDI  PX Catalyst 80 -or- 818H2 19°  GD Tour AD IZ-85
0311T 4i / Z745 5-9  Nippon 950GH 
SM7 46F 52F 58D  DG 115
SM7 62M  KBS Tour
putter, KBS CT Tour, Pro Only *
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I'm even to go back very far. Lamkin Performance Plus 3Gen grips is what I would like back.

Ping G410 Plus 10.5°/Alta CB55 r flex
Maltby KE4 TC 5w/Xcaliber SL FW r flex

Maltby KE4 Tour 3h/Xcaliber HY r flex
Maltby KE4 Tour 4h/Xcaliber HY r flex
Maltby KE4 Tour 5h/Xcaliber Rapid Taper r flex
Maltby KE4 Tour+ 6-G/Xcaliber Rapid Taper r flex
Maltby Tricept 54° and 58°/Xcaliber Rapid Taper r flex
Mizuno Bettinardi C06

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Lots of stuff

 

All the old blueboards especially the old 83/93/103 shafts

Gd ys9/9.1/10

 

Lamkin classic cord /cross line classic/ tour black

Mizuno ST190G atmos 6s
Mizuno MP18 2fh / PX 6.0
Mizuno MP18 3-Pw/ PX 6.0
Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0
Ping TR Anser 1966/ 34”

Ball - pro v1x
Grips - Crossline cord

Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58

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I think the majority of the responses have been in the realm of "heavy (~90-110g) wood shafts". This to me is my biggest want because that's what I use for fw woods and I don't want to jump all the way to a DG at 120+g. Thankfully, there are still a few companies making them but they are harder and harder to come by.

M6 9°  Fujikura Ventus 6
TS2 15°  Diamana S+ Ltd 70
790UDI  PX Catalyst 80 -or- 818H2 19°  GD Tour AD IZ-85
0311T 4i / Z745 5-9  Nippon 950GH 
SM7 46F 52F 58D  DG 115
SM7 62M  KBS Tour
putter, KBS CT Tour, Pro Only *
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I think the main thing I'd like to bring back is the former prices of components. Costs of grips, shafts, etc have gotten a little out of hand. There's no reason aftermarket shafts have to cost what they do in order to perform well. The funny thing is you had companies like AXE that make amazing shafts for the money and even their prices are creeping up. You used to be able to get a great shaft for around $50-$75 with exotic shafts topping out in the $300 range. Now a "good" shaft costs many hundreds of dollars with some creeping up to $1,000. Even steel shaft prices for irons have gotten insane. Dynamic Gold shafts used to cost $12-15 and now cost $25 each even though they haven't changed or gotten better in any way.

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i have been very lucky over last 6 months,

found two pro launch platinums, and one 757 Speeder !! Also a spare Oban TP V430 04, but thats too new 4 this topic.

Just bought a 905T with stock Speeder.

And always a V Steel Fan !!

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I often find myself In a world of regret when I look back at some of the shaft & grips I loved and can no longer source at a reasonable cost or with continuity.

 

So two questions for you:

 

1. Which shaft/grip products do you wish were still available?

 

2. What products have you moved on to since your supplies dried up?

 

 

 

 

 

So for me the products are quite straight forward but alas hard to replace.

 

Shafts

 

Graphite Design Purple Ice - Not the shoddy remake but the original version favoured by Greg Norman in the early days and I think Jim Furyk & Bernhard Langer. Was such a good fairway shaft for me and had used it in nearly half a dozen clubs before my clearance stock dwindled. I've never really found something that offered quite the same.

 

Graphite Design Pershing - A similar story for this one, used in a fair few drivers for me and then used the pulls in fairway woods (I still have one in play). It seems Graphite design has gone to an upper echelon on price and technology in the past few years and finding the affordably priced ones with Mid Launch and Spin are hard to come buy.

 

Oban Devotion - While not discontinued these are harder and harder to find as pulls and their price seems to have jumped upon the arrival of the Kiyoshi Line and surprisingly the more availability as an upcharge.

 

 

I've used Wishon Data in the past to find comparables but alas no joy in finding something that I buy freely and easily.

 

Grips

 

Golf Pride Victory Full Cord - Enough said really. Great grip and although re released, hard to find.

 

Golf Pride Tour Wrap Full cord - My true favourite. The Lamkin UTX wrap has been my closest comparable but still not the same.

 

Lamkin Deep Etched Paddle Full Cord - My nemesis, I'd love these to appear again. Particularly as the non cord version is slowly gaining traction on OEM lines.

 

I've gone boring since and settled for Tour Velvets. They will always be around!

 

Lamkin sells the deep etched cord putter grip on their website. It says online only. If that is the same grip you are talking about. I have an old deep etched cord on an old ping and a newer deep etched on a cleveland putter laying around the house somewhere.

 

I would like it if Lamkin would bring back the N-DUR two tone grips (white/blakc or white/blue). Have these on my wedges and my back stock is running low. You can find on the bay every once in a while but pretty expensive. I bought some white/blue ones of there a couple of years ago, but the white/black ones i got from lamkin years before that i feel are better.

Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9* Rogue White 130 60X
Callaway Epic Flash SZ 13.5* Hzrdus Yellow 70X

Titleist 818 H2 21* Tensei White 90X
Srixon 5(565), 6-7(795) 8-PW(965) KBS 120 S
Fourteen RM 21 Satin 48.08 KBS Tour 120S
Fourteen RM 12 Raw 52.10 KBS Hi-Rev S
Fourteen RM 21 Black 56.08W KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 black chrome
Titleist Vokey SM5 Black 60.04 KBS Hi-Rev 115 S
Odyssey O Works black 1WS
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I often find myself In a world of regret when I look back at some of the shaft & grips I loved and can no longer source at a reasonable cost or with continuity.

 

So two questions for you:

 

1. Which shaft/grip products do you wish were still available?

 

2. What products have you moved on to since your supplies dried up?

 

 

 

 

 

So for me the products are quite straight forward but alas hard to replace.

 

Shafts

 

Graphite Design Purple Ice - Not the shoddy remake but the original version favoured by Greg Norman in the early days and I think Jim Furyk & Bernhard Langer. Was such a good fairway shaft for me and had used it in nearly half a dozen clubs before my clearance stock dwindled. I've never really found something that offered quite the same.

 

Graphite Design Pershing - A similar story for this one, used in a fair few drivers for me and then used the pulls in fairway woods (I still have one in play). It seems Graphite design has gone to an upper echelon on price and technology in the past few years and finding the affordably priced ones with Mid Launch and Spin are hard to come buy.

 

Oban Devotion - While not discontinued these are harder and harder to find as pulls and their price seems to have jumped upon the arrival of the Kiyoshi Line and surprisingly the more availability as an upcharge.

 

 

I've used Wishon Data in the past to find comparables but alas no joy in finding something that I buy freely and easily.

 

Grips

 

Golf Pride Victory Full Cord - Enough said really. Great grip and although re released, hard to find.

 

Golf Pride Tour Wrap Full cord - My true favourite. The Lamkin UTX wrap has been my closest comparable but still not the same.

 

Lamkin Deep Etched Paddle Full Cord - My nemesis, I'd love these to appear again. Particularly as the non cord version is slowly gaining traction on OEM lines.

 

I've gone boring since and settled for Tour Velvets. They will always be around!

 

Lamkin sells the deep etched cord putter grip on their website. It says online only. If that is the same grip you are talking about. I have an old deep etched cord on an old ping and a newer deep etched on a cleveland putter laying around the house somewhere.

 

I would like it if Lamkin would bring back the N-DUR two tone grips (white/blakc or white/blue). Have these on my wedges and my back stock is running low. You can find on the bay every once in a while but pretty expensive. I bought some white/blue ones of there a couple of years ago, but the white/black ones i got from lamkin years before that i feel are better.

 

I didn't know they had started selling them again! Thank you for pointing it out to me.

Driver: M1 2016
Fairway: Jet Speed Tour
Hybrid: Adams Tour Proto 19˚
DI: Mizuno FliHi 18º
Irons: 714 AP2 4-PW
Wedges: Callaway Tour Grind 52˚ & 58˚
Putter: Spider CS Original

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My vote for components I'd like to see....

 

Snake Eyes 600B iron heads

90g and 100g (and up) graphite wood shafts

 

Heavy graphite is getting harder to find, without spending a premium. Even the long lived SK Fiber Tour Trac 100 has been discontinued.

 

Such is life...

The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, NV105 S or DGS400

Irons grab bag:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft pending); 1-PW Golden Ram TW282 or Vibration Matched Golden Rams, RIP Tour 115 R (coin flipping for the reshaft project); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400; Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Ram Watson Scoring System 55*, DGX 7i shaft; Ram TG-898, DGS400; Ram TG-898, NV105 S; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300; Ram 1982 Commemorative Nickel 58*, Dynamic S; Ram TW282, DGS; Ram TW276, DGS; Ram Troon Grind 58*, Dynamic S; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, DGS400; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, NV105 S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional or TaylorMade TP5

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Dynamics were 8 9$ if i remember.

 

Dynamic golds never were under 10$?

 

 

Used to play r500 s100 both no longer made

I got into clubmaking in 2002, and DG's were $10 at Golfsmith. I thought that was really high, because Lite XL and similar shafts were only in the $5 range. Boy, times have changed. Now Lite XLs are the "cheap" $10 shafts. Sucks, doesn't it?

Bag 1                                                                                        Bag 2

PING G400 Max 10.5° UST Attas 4U 6TS 44"                      PING G25 10.5° Graphite Design 2419S Prototype

Taylormade SLDR Mini 14° Kuro Kage Blue 70X 42.5"         PING G25 3 Wood Aerotech Steelfiber ss75 S

Callaway V Series 5 Wood Diamana Kai'Li 80S 41.5"           PING G25 5 Wood Aerotech Steelfiber ss85 S

Callaway Rogue 7 Wood Diamana Kai'Li 80S 41"                 PING G25 23° Hybrid KBS Tour V 110

Callaway Rogue 24° Hybrid Tour AD DI 95X                        PING G25 Irons 5-UW KBS Tour V 120

Mizuno JPX 900 Hot Metal 6-GW AMT Tour White s300   PING Glide 54° SS and 58° TS KBS 610 125

Mizuno T20 54° and 60° DG TI s400                                   PING Sigma Tyne H

Odyssey O-Works Red 7s

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