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See this NGI forum thread - http://newtongolfinstitute.proboards.com/thread/580/carraher-misrepresents-golfwrx-forum-thread

 

Do you agree, or disagree, with Jeff Mann's many criticisms of Dan Carrher's opinions regarding clubface control issues in the pre-impact, and immediate post-impact, phase of a driver golf swing?

 

In particular, look at post #4 where Jeff Mann compares Henrik Stenson's pre-impact and immediate post-impact degree of clubface roll to Phil Mickelson's degree of clubface roll during the same time periods.

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I've always been interested in phils swing, what causes his release? And why does he pull his head off the line?

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Dan does attract the crazies.

 

For sure he does this guy created a forum to just talk to himself....

 

So that's a "forum" for one person to post his criticisms and not entertain any feedback?

 

Here's what is in one of the stickies:

 

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Improvement through the free exchange of golf swing method, analysis and discussion

 

And I found this classic "I think that you are wasting your time posting in this forum (which I run) as I am the only other member participating..." in rebuffing a poster.

 

That place seems about as free as N. Korean prison.

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Jeff was banned from here years ago, from what I recall he didn't play nice with anyone. I don't think the guy even actually plays golf from what I remember, he just likes to over analyze what others do and have to say.

 

IIRC he was totally bought into TGM stuff for awhile, and Dan isn't the type to back down from a good argument........gotta say I have always enjoyed Dan's posts, he is a real student of the game, and has evolved a lot over the years.

 

Dan if you read this just remember, never wrestle with a pig, the pig will enjoy it and you both will get muddy.

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LOL, I just clicked on the link.

 

Notice that Jeff Mann never demonstrates a real swing himself, only positions. I mean there is no way someone could actually swing a club with that much going on in their noggin. Total paralysis by analysis.

 

What a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

 

ROFL.

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He went off on my First lesson with Brendon.

 

He basically said I got results, but didn't understand or know why.

All "tips" are welcome. Instruction not desired. 
 

 

The problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

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Jeff obviously has a few axes to grind ... look at some of the other threads re Monte, Miyahira, Richie Hunt, Como.

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I think neither one has all the answers so I really couldn't care less if they fight like grade school girls on here.

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Dude has a 6 part series on the OTT move all in spandex shorts in a friends family room with a childs club.

#1) That mini club is awesome.

#2) I watched that series a few years ago and I remember it was pretty informative.

#3) those are cycling shorts. check out his quads.

 

Foreshadowing.

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Dude has a 6 part series on the OTT move all in spandex shorts in a friends family room with a childs club.

#1) That mini club is awesome.

#2) I watched that series a few years ago and I remember it was pretty informative.

#3) those are cycling shorts. check out his quads.

 

Foreshadowing.

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I'd bet that Jeff would let you be his apprentice if you asked. Kind of a liaison between his site and this one.

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Anyone think the OP will have a second post?

nope !

I think Jeff Mann should be allowed back.

and if he gets out of line ...

 

It isn't really fair to criticize someone who can't reply.

 

Sure it's fair, the OP is either JM with a fake account or one of his minions he sent to troll here. It's quite obvious.

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