SuperSpeed Golf training system

[shoot4par]

On 10/26/2021 at 5:11 PM, LJ1978 said:

Yes I did across the board. 

My 8i went from 135 meter carry to 150 meter carry and my 6i Jumped from 155 to 175 and  got some out to 180 meters. Problem is I have to reassess all my distances now

 

Not to be that guy but this is the definition of a first world golf problem 👍

[UrethaneMane]

Time for me to try and increase my swing speed. I have always felt like I have untapped potential with my swing speed and just need to unlock it somehow.

 

Background, this is my first year playing golf. I was able to get my handicap down to a 16 before the season ended here, but I am just too short off the tee. I am usually hitting my drives about 225 total with roll.

 

I am 32 years old, 6'2" and 200lbs. My buddies I play with are surprised I don't murder the ball at my size. I am pretty athletic and played sports all throughout high school, football and basketball.

 

So lets get to the stats, had my first superspeed training session tonight. I will add a picture to show my results. I have always felt like I just don't know what it feels like to swing fast. Like my brain is telling me I am swinging fast, but my body is capable of going so much faster. So during the start of the session the fastest I could swing the green (light) stick was 105, I did the training session and by the end that increased that to 112, a 6.7% increase. 

 

I will keep on with the training regimen and let you know what happens. I need this to increased speed to roll over to my irons as well, because right now I am hitting my 7 iron about 135 yards carry, embarrassing I know.

 

 

 

[LJ1978]

6 hours ago, UrethaneMane said:

Time for me to try and increase my swing speed. I have always felt like I have untapped potential with my swing speed and just need to unlock it somehow.

 

Background, this is my first year playing golf. I was able to get my handicap down to a 16 before the season ended here, but I am just too short off the tee. I am usually hitting my drives about 225 total with roll.

 

I am 32 years old, 6'2" and 200lbs. My buddies I play with are surprised I don't murder the ball at my size. I am pretty athletic and played sports all throughout high school, football and basketball.

 

So lets get to the stats, had my first superspeed training session tonight. I will add a picture to show my results. I have always felt like I just don't know what it feels like to swing fast. Like my brain is telling me I am swinging fast, but my body is capable of going so much faster. So during the start of the session the fastest I could swing the green (light) stick was 105, I did the training session and by the end that increased that to 112, a 6.7% increase. 

 

I will keep on with the training regimen and let you know what happens. I need this to increased speed to roll over to my irons as well, because right now I am hitting my 7 iron about 135 yards carry, embarrassing I know.

 

 

 

Go back to page 118 and have a look at my progress data. 1st session I started at green 105 max and since then I have got it up to a max 132. Make sure you do the warm up. Keep at it, It works. 

[bbanksp]

3 hours ago, LJ1978 said:

Go back to page 118 and have a look at my progress data. 1st session I started at green 105 max and since then I have got it up to a max 132. Make sure you do the warm up. Keep at it, It works. 

anyone have a comparison between Superspeed and The Stack? I've started the Stack

[jj9000]

14 hours ago, RCGA said:

 

Let me eat my own words here. 

 

Session #3 I hit 131mph, with several 130mph swings. Anyone top that?

 

 

 

I posted much earlier in this thread...but not much lately.  I must warn all that follows this thread.  If you don't closely monitor your swing with these sticks, you'll likely develop a very long and across the line backswing...that isn't fun to correct. 

 

You'll gain speed and distance...no doubt.  But beware of distance gains at the expense of jacking up your real golf swing.  Just food for thought.

[milesgiles]

10 hours ago, UrethaneMane said:

Time for me to try and increase my swing speed. I have always felt like I have untapped potential with my swing speed and just need to unlock it somehow.

 

Background, this is my first year playing golf. I was able to get my handicap down to a 16 before the season ended here, but I am just too short off the tee. I am usually hitting my drives about 225 total with roll.

 

I am 32 years old, 6'2" and 200lbs. My buddies I play with are surprised I don't murder the ball at my size. I am pretty athletic and played sports all throughout high school, football and basketball.

 

So lets get to the stats, had my first superspeed training session tonight. I will add a picture to show my results. I have always felt like I just don't know what it feels like to swing fast. Like my brain is telling me I am swinging fast, but my body is capable of going so much faster. So during the start of the session the fastest I could swing the green (light) stick was 105, I did the training session and by the end that increased that to 112, a 6.7% increase. 

 

I will keep on with the training regimen and let you know what happens. I need this to increased speed to roll over to my irons as well, because right now I am hitting my 7 iron about 135 yards carry, embarrassing I know.

 

 

 

 

 

only my opinion..

 

youve been playing a year. I think you want to be pretty sure your swing is reasonably correct Before trying to speed it up.

 

My reasoning is that its going be harder to correct a quicker swing, in terms of sequencing, maintaing/losing angles etc, because you'll have less time to manipulate your body to do it.

 

I could be wrong 

[milesgiles]

1 hour ago, bbanksp said:

anyone have a comparison between Superspeed and The Stack? I've started the Stack

 

gone from <100 to 116 in 3 weeks and I used...

 

 

 

 

 

nothing. No sticks, no program. Just did my own thing.

[milesgiles]

1 hour ago, jj9000 said:

 

I posted much earlier in this thread...but not much lately.  I must warn all that follows this thread.  If you don't closely monitor your swing with these sticks, you'll likely develop a very long and across the line backswing...that isn't fun to correct. 

 

You'll gain speed and distance...no doubt.  But beware of distance gains at the expense of jacking up your real golf swing.  Just food for thought.

 

I think this is an excellent point. As far as I understand SS, you are supposed to forget technique and just wang it back and forth as quickly as possible. 

 

Have to say, that makes no sense to me, so I don't do it. Instead I make the quickest swing I can, Whilst being reasonably sure that it is somewhat technically correct, and I video to prove it to myself.

 

Not saying this is wrong or right, but Id definitely think about what you are doing to your swing, rather than just blindly following an unproven protocol 'just because'

[Lefty_3Jack]

Please tell me if you are:

-A 5HC or better

-Mid 30s or later

 

And if you have documented measurable increased carry on irons, woods, driver as a result of doing the SuperSpeed sticks.  

 

Also, if I go buy a SS radar, am I wasting my money getting the MEVO for added benefits vs just using the normal SSR?  I've seen a good amount of feedback on the Mevo that indicates the info is not accurate on it.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Lefty_3Jack

[MrFlipper]

3 hours ago, Lefty_3Jack said:

Please tell me if you are:

-A 5HC or better

-Mid 30s or later

 

And if you have documented measurable increased carry on irons, woods, driver as a result of doing the SuperSpeed sticks.  

 

Also, if I go buy a SS radar, am I wasting my money getting the MEVO for added benefits vs just using the normal SSR?  I've seen a good amount of feedback on the Mevo that indicates the info is not accurate on it.

 

4.2 index, our season to post scores ends Monday. 64 1/2 years old. Been a relatively short knocker all my life.

 

I did superspeed over last winter. Starting chs driver 90 ish, got up to 102 ish but between wear and tear on my body from work (golf course maintenance), and being tired playing after work, found a happy ground around 95 ish when I started back up playing. Picked up 2 clubs in irons but ended up hitting them smoother with a 1 club gain. It was hard for me to swing all out on the driver and then try to hit a 3 finger iron, couldn't do it consistently. 

 

Gonna start up superspeed again here shortly, just the blue stick (see earlier comments upthread for reasoning). I'm a believer. The protocol works. I just have to cut it back so I don't overdo it.

 

Goal for this winter, pick up another club in irons and get driver over 100 without feeling like I look like Bryson jumping at it.

 

And I just have the SSR, don't think the mevo is worth the cost. You just need a relative measuring stick to track results.

[getitdaily]

6 hours ago, milesgiles said:

 

gone from <100 to 116 in 3 weeks and I used...

 

 

 

 

 

nothing. No sticks, no program. Just did my own thing.

Yeah, we got it...you did your own thing. Congrats. Maybe start a thread about it. This is a thread about superspeed sticks. 

[milesgiles]

1 hour ago, getitdaily said:

Yeah, we got it...you did your own thing. Congrats. Maybe start a thread about it. This is a thread about superspeed sticks. 

 

so we aren't allowed to make any observation that you might be able to get just as good results without any sticks or protocol?

[getitdaily]

3 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

so we aren't allowed to make any observation that you might be able to get just as good results without any sticks or protocol?

Of course you are...in a thread about it. You mentioned...move along. Like I said, make a thread about it.

 

I might actually be interested in a thread like that. Dechambeau seems to use 8i and driver only. There are other methods. A thread about them could be cool...

Edited November 12, 2021 by getitdaily

[milesgiles]

11 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

Of course you are...in a thread about it. You mentioned...move along. Like I said, make a thread about it.

 

I might actually be interested in a thread like that. Dechambeau seems to use 8i and driver only. There are other methods. A thread about them could be cool...

 

I dont think every thread needs an equal and opposite thread for a counter argument. What I'd like to see is some actual peer reviewed research that says overspeed training is superior, and if it is, whats the advantage over one of these sticks to, say, a shaft with a grip on it? 

 

To me, it seems possible a lot of people are acrediting speed gains to one of these systems, when the reality is theyve never done any concentrated, measured speed training and that literally anything would have worked just as well

[LJ1978]

1 hour ago, milesgiles said:

 

I dont think every thread needs an equal and opposite thread for a counter argument. What I'd like to see is some actual peer reviewed research that says overspeed training is superior, and if it is, whats the advantage over one of these sticks to, say, a shaft with a grip on it? 

 

To me, it seems possible a lot of people are acrediting speed gains to one of these systems, when the reality is theyve never done any concentrated, measured speed training and that literally anything would have worked just 

I agree, Not doing superspeed maybe go start your own thread. 

In my option I only care about people’s superspeed golf outcomes and throwing in some motivation for people. 
I don’t care if your doing something else and throw in negatives to SSG. Good luck to you, but you just clog up this thread. 
Structure, routine and a plan works for people who would not be motivated otherwise. SSG has improved my sequencing and speed. 
From my 17 weeks of doing the protocols I am tracking as SSG predicts. I have regular lessons, (I have dropped from a 12 handicap and now I’m a 8.3 handicap), but doing the protocol I go flat out regardless of technique. Has SSG affected my swing. Yes the ball goes further, goal achieved. Looking forward to the second jump due soon. 

[UrethaneMane]

12 hours ago, milesgiles said:

 

 

only my opinion..

 

youve been playing a year. I think you want to be pretty sure your swing is reasonably correct Before trying to speed it up.

 

My reasoning is that its going be harder to correct a quicker swing, in terms of sequencing, maintaing/losing angles etc, because you'll have less time to manipulate your body to do it.

 

I could be wrong 

 

I understand what you are saying, but i feel like if i unlock more speed, that me swinging at 90% of my potential will still allow me to remain in control while having a faster swing speed than when I started.

[UrethaneMane]

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for the 2021 PRGR? I feel like it has random misreads where club head speed is way higher than it should be.

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by UrethaneMane
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[khalespace]

Slightly better and with more comfort swinging the driver faster on the course. completed Level 1 protocol today and ready to move to Level 2 next week.

 

 

[LJ1978]

1 minute ago, khalespace said:

Slightly better and with more comfort swinging the driver faster on the course. completed Level 1 protocol today and ready to move to Level 2 next week.

 

 

Great job. Those numbers are creeping up.

[getitdaily]

14 hours ago, khalespace said:

Slightly better and with more comfort swinging the driver faster on the course. completed Level 1 protocol today and ready to move to Level 2 next week.

 

 

What's your handicap? You swing the speed sticks at or faster than me. But I move driver a lot faster than you. My green stick speed is 115 and I was popping 112 with driver yesterday. 

[milesgiles]

On 11/13/2021 at 2:20 AM, UrethaneMane said:

 

I understand what you are saying, but i feel like if i unlock more speed, that me swinging at 90% of my potential will still allow me to remain in control while having a faster swing speed than when I started.

 

 

you can be 'in control' and still be swinging in an entirely incorrect way. Honestly unless you've had some excellent instruction and you're a very quick study, its very likely you do swing in an entirely incorrect way.. and if you succeed in speeding it up, you are going to find it much harder to make adjustments.

Just a heads up really. I feel speeding up your swing is something for a better player to work on when he has a good technical understanding and is looking for an edge. I think its as likely to wreck a higher handicap as make him improve.. Id be interested in other  opinions 

[khalespace]

4 hours ago, getitdaily said:

What's your handicap? You swing the speed sticks at or faster than me. But I move driver a lot faster than you. My green stick speed is 115 and I was popping 112 with driver yesterday. 

My handicap is 13. I am not sure why my driver speed is much slower than the green stick. Perhaps because the green stick is lighter and I can release/snap my wrist while I am not doing it with my driver. My driver is also 43.75". 

Edited November 14, 2021 by khalespace

[getitdaily]

7 minutes ago, khalespace said:

My handicap is 13. I am not sure why my driver speed is much slower than the green stick. Perhaps because the green stick is lighter and I can release/snap my wrist while I am not doing it with my driver. My driver is also 

The green should always be faster than driver, it's lighter.

 

Are you taking lessons? You will.see much greater speed gains from better form. Or at least supplement speed sticks with lessons for better form.

[khalespace]

4 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

The green should always be faster than driver, it's lighter.

 

Are you taking lessons? You will.see much greater speed gains from better form. Or at least supplement speed sticks with lessons for better form.

After taking lessons from 3 different instructors without results, I am doing it own my own and took my handicap from 19 to 13 in one year. 2 weeks ago, I subscribed to George Gankas Online Academy. I like it so far and I am rebuilding my swing to his suggestions. Since swing change is hard, I am doing hundreds of slow motion swings a day to ingrain it. The plan is to check on videos to make sure the form is correct and then increase the practice swing speed slowly every week. Hopefully after 8 to 10 weeks, the new swing would be better.

Edited November 14, 2021 by khalespace

[getitdaily]

22 minutes ago, khalespace said:

After taking lessons from 3 different instructors without results, I am doing it own my own and took my handicap from 19 to 13 in one year. 2 weeks ago, I subscribed to George Gankas Online Academy. I like it so far and I am rebuilding my swing to his suggestions. Since swing change is hard, I am doing hundreds of slow motion swings a day to ingrain it. The plan is to check on videos to make sure the form is correct and then increase the practice swing speed slowly every week. Hopefully after 8 to 10 weeks, the new swing would be better.

Awesome! Keep at it. 

[caniac6]

4 hours ago, milesgiles said:

 

 

you can be 'in control' and still be swinging in an entirely incorrect way. Honestly unless you've had some excellent instruction and you're a very quick study, its very likely you do swing in an entirely incorrect way.. and if you succeed in speeding it up, you are going to find it much harder to make adjustments.

Just a heads up really. I feel speeding up your swing is something for a better player to work on when he has a good technical understanding and is looking for an edge. I think its as likely to wreck a higher handicap as make him improve.. Id be interested in other  opinions 

Why don't you just go ahead and tell everyone how you picked up 16 mph on your own?

[getitdaily]

How often are you guys doing all out driver tests...hitting a ball?

[milesgiles]

1 hour ago, caniac6 said:

Why don't you just go ahead and tell everyone how you picked up 16 mph on your own?

 

because we aren't allowed to criticise itt

[khalespace]

51 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

How often are you guys doing all out driver tests...hitting a ball?

I have a golf simulator at home so I can hit foam balls after a session of Superspeed training and I do go all out. Inside the garage it is just too loud and too dangerous to hit a driver or any wood with real balls. Inside the garage, somehow I am 10 yards shorter on most clubs. May be it is the problem of swinging indoors.

 

I don't really go to the range. I can hit real balls with the driver on the course and I can't really go all out because I don't want to top the ball or hitting it too wildly.

[caniac6]

6 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

because we aren't allowed to criticise itt

Start a different thread. I'm very interested in learning how to gain some speed, but I afraid the overspeed training will mess up my swing. I'm pretty straight, and I don't want to sacrifice accuracy to pick up distance.