2017 Titleist Pro V1 and Pro V1x

[moonshine]

I don't play their balls because I'm a cheapskate but otherwise I must totally be in their target market. Nothing about their ProV1 marketing seems the least bit confusing to me. Probably because I don't expect the bumpf on the back of the box to tell me which ball I will like better. You get confused because you try to impute meaning where there is none.

 

It's just like the guys that come on here and ask questions like, "Do you think I could get half a degree more launch and 200rpm less spin by going to the ADDI 7s instead of the 6x but tipping it an extra half inch?" The inevitable reply is you have to go through a fitting or at least try it, nobody can predict detailed results from a bunch of specs. Just as true for golf balls.

I don't think being price conscious equates to a cheapskate. I have never been a one ball guy however I did notice a difference in the new ProV over prior gen models.

[North Butte]

It's astounding how much incorrect information you can find on this site. The X has been the higher launch, lower spin for long game version, while the V1 has been the opposite. Why are people arguing that?

 

I've officially tapped out of that fight. The question is like an unsquashable bug, stomp on it all you want and the next day it crawls back out of the woodwork.

I mean just look at the back of the box. It says it right there!

 

Yep. I always like when people say a fact is "confusing" when what they really mean is "it's the opposite of my own incorrect idea".

[RMGC_NV]

It's astounding how much incorrect information you can find on this site. The X has been the higher launch, lower spin for long game version, while the V1 has been the opposite. Why are people arguing that?

 

I've officially tapped out of that fight. The question is like an unsquashable bug, stomp on it all you want and the next day it crawls back out of the woodwork.

I mean just look at the back of the box. It says it right there!

 

Yep. I always like when people say a fact is "confusing" when what they really mean is "it's the opposite of my own incorrect idea".

 

The irony in all of this is that you have yet to answer any of the questions directed at you in this thread. Surprised considering you have a 9 post per day average since joining these forums. You clearly have a propensity for being heard.

[North Butte]

It's astounding how much incorrect information you can find on this site. The X has been the higher launch, lower spin for long game version, while the V1 has been the opposite. Why are people arguing that?

 

I've officially tapped out of that fight. The question is like an unsquashable bug, stomp on it all you want and the next day it crawls back out of the woodwork.

I mean just look at the back of the box. It says it right there!

 

Yep. I always like when people say a fact is "confusing" when what they really mean is "it's the opposite of my own incorrect idea".

 

The irony in all of this is that you have yet to answer any of the questions directed at you in this thread. Surprised considering you have a 9 post per day average since joining these forums. You clearly have a propensity for being heard.

 

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

[bobbyclampett!!]

It would be fun to get this thread back on track with people's actual experiences with these balls, despite the marketing claims, past or present. This is a topic I'm really interested in and would like to see this thread live long and prosper!

[RMGC_NV]

 

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

[G-Bone]

Anybody here follow @pgatour on Instagram? There is a video this morning of Zak Johnson backing up a flighted wedge like 30 feet on command. Its awesome. Wonder what ball he is playing.

 

Titleist website lists ZJ playing V1x... Not sure which version.

[G-Bone]

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

 

Quick note: Me and several others have found 2017 V1 has more green side spin than 2017 V1x (chips, bunkers, etc.) However, 2017 V1x has more short iron approach shot spin than 2017 V1 (full short irons and wedges).

[North Butte]

 

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

 

I only know what I've experienced. 2013 ProV1x spins noticeably more than 2013 ProV1 on full wedge and short iron shots. If you say Titleist did not make that clear in their ads back then, you may be right. I don't read marketing bumpf anyway and certainly don't have 4 year old examples.

 

Does "around the green" mean full swings with a pitching wedge?

 

I must say it's a mystery to me why you are so worked up over the fact that my personal experience has been that ProV1x's behavior is completely consistent with what is avertised. It's clear to me what the ball is meant to do and it sees to do it. I am not confused and see no reason anyone else should be confused.

 

 

[laxbc101]

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

 

I only know what I've experienced. 2013 ProV1x spins noticeably more than 2013 ProV1 on full wedge and short iron shots. If you say Titleist did not make that clear in their ads back then, you may be right. I don't read marketing bumpf anyway and certainly don't have 4 year old examples.

 

Does "around the green" mean full swings with a pitching wedge?

 

I must say it's a mystery to me why you are so worked up over the fact that my personal experience has been that ProV1x's behavior is completely consistent with what is avertised. It's clear to me what the ball is meant to do and it sees to do it. I am not confused and see no reason anyone else should be confused.

Can you two get a room? Maybe 69 with each other to take out your anger?

 

thnx

[RMGC_NV]

I must say it's a mystery to me why you are so worked up over the fact that my personal experience has been that ProV1x's behavior is completely consistent with what is avertised.

 

Again you admit that you don't read the marketing, and are unable to recall past marketing examples, but you claim that your experiences are completely consistent with what's been advertised. LoL.

 

I can only go in circles with you so many times. For the sanity of those that actually have an interest in this thread beyond increasing their post count, I'll let the marketing deception die on the vine.

[North Butte]

Fine by me.

[masamitsu]

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

 

Quick note: Me and several others have found 2017 V1 has more green side spin than 2017 V1x (chips, bunkers, etc.) However, 2017 V1x has more short iron approach shot spin than 2017 V1 (full short irons and wedges).

 

Which had less spin and lower launch off of the driver? V1?

[Pure745]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

[Lord Helmet]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

 

Im in the same boat...I still have 2 boxes of 2015 1x balls. But I am going to get a sleeve on the new 2017 v1 and see what happens. Will use my 2015 1x first and when they are gone make a decision.

[bobbyclampett!!]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

 

Im in the same boat...I still have 2 boxes of 2015 1x balls. But I am going to get a sleeve on the new 2017 v1 and see what happens. Will use my 2015 1x first and when they are gone make a decision.

 

Pretty much exact same boat. Although it would take a big and noticeable difference in performance for me to switch to 2017 V1, as I like the feel of a slightly firmer ball. Prefer a solid thump to a soft feeling. That and the price difference between 2015x and 2017 ProV1...

[drvrwdge]

In the same boat as the last 3. Guess Ill pick up a sleeve this weekend and give them a whirl.

[Lord Helmet]

Were gonna need a bigger boat Im afraid.

[WidespreadPanic]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

I'm not sure if it's that clear cut, but I've always played 'X' models of balls and just bought a dozen ProV1's.

[G-Bone]

I can't find any question you have asked me on this thread or elsewhere. Are you sure you are responding to the right person?

 

All I see from you are insults directed at Titleist and anyone who claims to understand the difference between their golf balls. You are welcome to that opinion but does not admit anything like an "answer".

 

The same question as has been asked since the genesis of this thread. I've asked a single question. Where's the marketing material for the 2013 and/or 2015 Pro V, that tells the customer that the Pro V1x spins more than the Pro V1 around the green?

 

This has nothing to do with how the balls actually perform. <-------------- read!!!. All of this is about the public marketing of these balls by Titleist.

 

People on team titleist are STILL saying that they play the Pro V1x because the Pro V1 spins too much around the green. Are they wrong? Yes. Are there MANY golfers that pay the premium price to play this ball that have no idea what the spin characteristics of these balls are around the green? Yes. But why is that? Because Bridgestone is to blame? Or because there are pesticides in the water? It comes from somewhere.

 

Quick note: Me and several others have found 2017 V1 has more green side spin than 2017 V1x (chips, bunkers, etc.) However, 2017 V1x has more short iron approach shot spin than 2017 V1 (full short irons and wedges).

 

Which had less spin and lower launch off of the driver? V1?

 

For me V1 definitely has lower launch than V1x. However, according to Trackman V1 had about 150 rpm more spin than V1x.

 

That being said, I'm in Florida playing golf currently and the one thing I can say for sure, 2017 V1 is considerably longer with woods and hybrids than 2015 V1x and perhaps .25 to .5 clubs longer with irons... very impressed.

[Pure745]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

 

Im in the same boat...I still have 2 boxes of 2015 1x balls. But I am going to get a sleeve on the new 2017 v1 and see what happens. Will use my 2015 1x first and when they are gone make a decision.

 

Pretty much exact same boat. Although it would take a big and noticeable difference in performance for me to switch to 2017 V1, as I like the feel of a slightly firmer ball. Prefer a solid thump to a soft feeling. That and the price difference between 2015x and 2017 ProV1...

 

I'm actually looking for a ball that spins less than my current ProV1x - both overall and with my wedges. If our greens are soft ProV1x's just rip back for me. I've been testing the new TP5X and it's perfect.. same swings with the wedges and very close to the pitch mark and sometimes will even release a bit forward. Game changer for me as I don't have to manipulate wedge shots anymore and can go hard w/o fear of overspinning. I'm a big Titleist ball fan, so if the ProV1 is similar to the TP5X I'll go with the Titleist, if not, the TM might be my new ball. Firm/hard/fast greens I'll be using the ProV1x, but home course has been really receptive.

[masamitsu]

Going off this new chart, as a life long ProV1x guy, it looks like I'm a ProV1 guy now?

 

Ditto.

[bobbyclampett!!]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

[G-Bone]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

 

He is definitely playing V1 (supposedly 2017). You could easily see the black number on his ball several times today. At one point today I could even see that is was the number 4... I was kind of surprised it doesn't play a custom number.

[mcshooter]

I am lucky the pro where I play sells me the pro v or x for 40 bucks a dozen and no charge for green fees, makes the cost of the balls 14 bucks a dozen, we play twice a week and all year long if the course is open, so he treats us very well.

[bobbyclampett!!]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

 

He is definitely playing V1 (supposedly 2017). You could easily see the black number on his ball several times today. At one point today I could even see that is was the number 4... I was kind of surprised it doesn't play a custom number.

 

Dang it, that's what I was afraid of, 2015xer switching to 2017 V1...

[G-Bone]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

 

He is definitely playing V1 (supposedly 2017). You could easily see the black number on his ball several times today. At one point today I could even see that is was the number 4... I was kind of surprised it doesn't play a custom number.

 

Dang it, that's what I was afraid of, 2015xer switching to 2017 V1...

 

Welcome to the club my friend... we're happy to have you on aboard! ;)

 

On a side note - Just finished paying seven rounds of golf with new V1... I just can't believe how great this ball is for my game... smokes 2015 V1x, for me. Long and low spin with driver, perfect spin with short irons and wedges, with fantastic bite around the greens... Oh yeah, and it feels amazing!

[knock it close]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

 

He is definitely playing V1 (supposedly 2017). You could easily see the black number on his ball several times today. At one point today I could even see that is was the number 4... I was kind of surprised it doesn't play a custom number.

 

Dang it, that's what I was afraid of, 2015xer switching to 2017 V1...

Rickie has been playing the V1 for a while now, it's not a recent switch

[bobbyclampett!!]

Someone needs to tell WRX!

[masamitsu]

Rickie's winning WITB says ProV1x, but doesn't say which year. Hmmm...

 

He is definitely playing V1 (supposedly 2017). You could easily see the black number on his ball several times today. At one point today I could even see that is was the number 4... I was kind of surprised it doesn't play a custom number.

 

Dang it, that's what I was afraid of, 2015xer switching to 2017 V1...

 

Welcome to the club my friend... we're happy to have you on aboard! ;)

 

On a side note - Just finished paying seven rounds of golf with new V1... I just can't believe how great this ball is for my game... smokes 2015 V1x, for me. Long and low spin with driver, perfect spin with short irons and wedges, with fantastic bite around the greens... Oh yeah, and it feels amazing!

 

Can't wait to get the 2017 V's on the course. Just need all the snow to melt.