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I got mine today - they look great. The whole process was pretty annoying, and unfortunately not done yet.

 

I ordered them and they kept getting pushed back/backordered. Whatever. I finally decide to call in about my order because I hadn't been updated in weeks, but they wedges per the most recent email should have been delivered.

 

Customer Service rep from TM said they didn't even have my order. They had my account and all account history, and even saw the order number I referenced for the wedges, but he said that order was "blank" and nothing will be fulfilled. OK....

 

I then, completely randomly got an email saying my order shipped. Yay! They're on their way!!!!

 

Delivered today. I ordered high bounce 56 & 60* wedges all +3/4" - the wedges were delivered and I ripped open the box in excitement. Put one to the ground to check it out and could instantly tell, these are not +3/4"

 

Went out to my truck to compare length to my old wedges and sure enough, they're standard length.....

 

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I wish they would bring back the XFT wedge again, especially the replaceable inserts. They would make long term $$$ from the insert sales alone.  

A little follow up....

 

Contacted TM and the rep wanted to be helpful, but we weren’t on the same page. He questioned if they were really short. I said I understand his position, but I’ve never had clubs EVER that weren’t longer than standard; even my first handmdown set was +1”

 

I said they feel quite short and when compared to my existing wedges they’re a good 3/4-1” shorter.

 

His only solution was to send them back and wait for new. I expressed how I didn’t like that, as I have waited a while for these, but I understand there is nothing more they can do. He asked “what were you thinking?” And I said if I could take them to a dicks, have them lengthened and then TM credits me the bill. He thought that was an awful idea and only wanted TM to touch the irons. I get his position, but not looking to be without them another week+ when I’m losing out on good golf here in the MW

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I wonder what wedge model DJ is talking about in this clipping from his presser yesterday

 

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TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP

 

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TaylorMade is now offering custom stamping on wedges https://t.co/OU4SVbaKoP

 

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I wish they would bring back the XFT wedge again, especially the replaceable inserts. They would make long term $$$ from the insert sales alone.

 

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Love those wedges. Have both the 58/09 and the 58/12 wedges. S400 shafts in both. Also have 12 total replacement faces. Will be using these wedges for the rest of my golfing life haha.

 

Is there anywhere you can still get faces?


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For the amount of buying/selling and hoeing that goes on around here I would it suggest this. Just makes it harder to sell

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For the amount of buying/selling and hoeing that goes on around here I would it suggest this. Just makes it harder to sell

NOOOOOO. Don’t stamp anything. Can’t HO it!

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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

 

and what's the deal with eminem sampling Zeppelin???? He didn't write When the Levee Breaks!

 

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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

 

and what's the deal with eminem sampling Zeppelin???? He didn't write When the Levee Breaks!

 

/s

 

Re-hashing something and paying royalties is one thing. Eminem is 100% paying royalties, I doubt PXG, Wilson, or Cally is seeing checks from TM.

 

I mean look at that hi-toe. Three ports to move weight? Even has the same u-grind...

 

Nothing is more obvious than that cut away of the 790s though. I know the court ruled against PXG, but they even look identical in every way beside the PXG screws.

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Mizuno MP20 HMB - 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 120

Titleist AP2 - 50* - Dynamic Gold
Wedgeworks V-Grind - 54* - Dynamic Gold
Vokey Spin Milled - 58* - Dynamic Gold
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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

I don’t have that big of a problem with it. If TM can do it just as good or better, let em. More competition, lower prices, more business...
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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

 

Well the PM Grind ripped off the Ping Eye 2 wedge, so this seems like a non-issue. Phil was using an Eye 2 wedge (even got blamed for cheating because the grooves didn't conform) so Callaway made him the "PM Grind"

 

This chain of events is not exclusive to the golf industry. It applies to pretty much every competitive industry. If you can take what your competitor is doing, make it better, and sell it successfully - then go for it. As a consumer you should be applauding this behavior.

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Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-9 - DG TI X100

TaylorMade MG Tour Chrome 46*, Raw 50*, Raw 55* - DG TI S400

TaylorMade Tour Hi Toe Raw Face 60* - DG TI S400

Scotty Cameron Select Squareback

 

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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

I don’t have that big of a problem with it. If TM can do it just as good or better, let em. More competition, lower prices, more business...

 

It's not competition when you are just flat ripping someone else off.

 

And it won't cause competition. It will cause a monopoly. If TM is allowed to let other companies do the leg work and R&D (which costs a lot of money), and then just copy their product, its actually going to run other companies out of business. This is exactly what Edisen did to all his competitors, which led to the generation of all the patent, anti-monopoly, and anti-trust laws.

 

It is also a business ethics issue. Stealing of intellectual property is a huge problem. And an even bigger problem is that they are allowed to argue "people make golf clubs out of metal and polymers, so its not a copyright infringement" when the product is virtually identical, even down to the shape, dimensions, and details of said design elements.

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Calloway Apex 4h - 23* - Rogue Silver
Mizuno MP20 HMB - 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 120

Titleist AP2 - 50* - Dynamic Gold
Wedgeworks V-Grind - 54* - Dynamic Gold
Vokey Spin Milled - 58* - Dynamic Gold
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TM may be about to get in some really big trouble.

 

The Hi-Toe is clearly ripping off the PM grind.

The P790 is virtually identical to PXGs.

The new M4 hammerhead may as well say jailbreak on the bottom.

Their new stand back that sits flat is a complete rip off the Wilson Staff Nexus Exocage design.

 

I mean... their stuff is great right now, because they are just copying the best of the industry from other manufacturers.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but really TM?

 

Well the PM Grind ripped off the Ping Eye 2 wedge, so this seems like a non-issue. Phil was using an Eye 2 wedge (even got blamed for cheating because the grooves didn't conform) so Callaway made him the "PM Grind"

 

This chain of events is not exclusive to the golf industry. It applies to pretty much every competitive industry. If you can take what your competitor is doing, make it better, and sell it successfully - then go for it. As a consumer you should be applauding this behavior.

 

Patents on that wedge have long since expired. Additionally they went from a cavity back design to a blade. The two were different other than the toe. This is the same minus the size of the 3 cutouts... The P790 is the bigger issue. As is the fact that TM is clearly getting away with stealing design after design.

 

People liken this to drug patents. Many in the general public feel that drug companies charge too much for drugs, and while this is more or less an accurate statement, if you let generic manufacturers make the identical product immediately, the profitability of making a new drug would disappear.

 

When something is no longer profitable, nobody does it. If you want the pharmaceutical industry to stop generating new drugs that have better efficacy and less side effects, let the generic companies copy the drugs right away. It would be a surefire way to completely dismantle the industry and halt innovation in its tracts. You don't spend a ton on R&D to not turn a profit.

 

If TM or other companies are allowed to outright copy other patented products without repercussion, there will be no reward for investing in R&D, companies will fold, and less innovation will be seen.

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TaylorMade M5 - 14.25* - Tensei Orange
Callaway Apex 3h - 20* - Project X Catalyst

Calloway Apex 4h - 23* - Rogue Silver
Mizuno MP20 HMB - 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 120

Titleist AP2 - 50* - Dynamic Gold
Wedgeworks V-Grind - 54* - Dynamic Gold
Vokey Spin Milled - 58* - Dynamic Gold
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This is a thread about the use and performance of Milled Grind wedges, not about intellectual property theories/disputes. Please stay on topic.

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This is a thread about the use and performance of Milled Grind wedges, not about intellectual property theories/disputes. Please stay on topic.

 

You're absolutely right. To that effect I bet they perform a whole lot like the PM cally wedge... just a hunch.

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Calloway Apex 4h - 23* - Rogue Silver
Mizuno MP20 HMB - 5-PW - Dynamic Gold 120

Titleist AP2 - 50* - Dynamic Gold
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Vokey Spin Milled - 58* - Dynamic Gold
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