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Byron Nelson Tourney 3852 Sand Wedge


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This model gets a line item in the price guide of Joe Clement's Classic Golf Clubs, and page 62 describes it more generically as coming with matched irons. Says it usually has a green sheath, so likely from Pyratone Era (pre-1950) but no specific year is assigned to it. The values in that book were during the 1980 peak, but relatively, he lists it on the high end, though a little less valuable than the Tommy Armour versions solely for lacking that name alone.

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GORGEOUS ! not sure they had 'sand irons' prior to WWII, I'd guess post war.

 

FWIW, the sand iron is credited to Gene Sarazen, in 1935.

 

Can't speak to whether this particular club is from that time or a later reissued product...

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Nice Sand Iron. I think I have a matching 11-iron, double duty. I believe mine has a brown Pyratone shaft. I will see if I can post a couple pics.

the model 3852 was typically attributed to the Tommy Armour model. the number was meant to stand for the shaft measurement on the 2 iron in the set (38.5" 2-iron)

But it also seems to apply to the style of the clubhead. reallly a reverse or double flange instead of a muscle back. Definitely not a game-improvement club

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GORGEOUS ! not sure they had 'sand irons' prior to WWII, I'd guess post war.

 

FWIW, the sand iron is credited to Gene Sarazen, in 1935.

 

Can't speak to whether this particular club is from that time or a later reissued product...

 

NR-

 

Later-

 

This is after Gene Sarazen, as Byron Nelson signed his first MacGregor contract in June, 1939, just before he won the US Open at Spring Mill PA in a playoff with Craig Wood.

Nelsons clubs were Tommy Armour signature models, given to him by Tommy Armour, the Head Professional at Inverness.

 

You could get Charley Penna to comment on whether or not Byron Nelson used any of his "signature" clubs.

 

PS- In some circles, 1939 was also the US Open Sam Snead lost.

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It looks simular in design to my 1940 Armour 3800s. Mine have a green Pyratone shaft.

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  • 3 years later...

I have the iron heads only for the same 3852 irons, Tommy Aromour.  Also a putter Walter Hagen used.  Got it from an old gentleman who won a PGA tournament and he got the putter from Hagen himself as a gift for winning.  Hagen finished 2nd.  He gifted the club to me as he said he has no one to give for.  It had been his treasure and had an old article that says the putter was given to him.  The article is lost now. I have no proof of it but the story is nice so I treasure the putter.  Ram 300 I think.  Looked like it’s made of copper.  1988 or 89 spring I recall and he said he won when he was in 20s so it must have been in 1930s,  this was @San Jose Calif.  

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I have a set of the Tommy Armour Silver Scot 3852 irons with the olive shafts and "neutraliser" hosel insert. Beautiful, simple and timeless design.

The 3852's appear in the MacGregor catalogue in 1939 (per Kaplan) along with the neutraliser insert. I have always thought mine might be slightly later. If anyone can interpret the ferrule number it may provide the answer?

The neutraliser is a hickory insert at the which reinforces the shaft / hosel joint making it "unbreakable"! It is also supposed to dampen vibration.

My guess is that the shafts broke at the top of the insert rather than at the joint!

 

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