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I have the 3 wood and it's great just ordered the 5 wood to mess with my 3 hybrid

 

Same as me , Just pick up the 3 wood and love it. The 5 wood is on my list .

 

Stock Recoil shaft or what?

 

 

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Original poster back again. I tried to cheat on my Fusion with a Ping G400, a PXG 0811XF and then a Taylormade M4. None of them were any better on the course or on the monitor. And none of them sou

My driving today was the best ever with the Fusion 13.5 @45" and 12 gram weight. I was way out there on some drives, stupid long for me. It made for a very fun day and low scores.

Shoot. I've been wanting the Srixon Z785 to work for me since testing it out at a demo day back in sept/oct 2018. The Srixon felt great off the face and during the demo day, it seemed like it was ve

Stopped in a store to check out the Fusion today and I actually like the triangular head. Seems easier to aim and that is big for me. I seem to have target alignment issues with drivers that I don't have with irons.

 

For those who have adjusted their Fusion, if I got a 45.5 inch model and cut a 1/2 inch off the butt to get it to 45, is it easy with the weights to get the swingweight I want? The setup I like is either the Diamana S+ (Blueboard) 70 or D+ (Whiteboard) 70 in stiff. Want to play it at 45 inches and D3.

 

I play an 80g Whiteboard in my X2 Hot 3Deep and love how it performs. Have always fit these shafts well so am sticking with them, but I know I will hit the Diamana Red stock shaft too high.

 

Would go with the whiteboard in driver but with this head am worried it will launch too low and possibly spin too low as well. So Blueboard is probably more likely as I also like that the S+ is counterbalanced. I read that the Whiteboard is "not as counterbalanced," though not sure what that means.

 

If someone can recommend a Rogue that is similar to the Diamanas would consider that too. Had a Rogue Silver and found it too harsh. I usually like a little torque for feel, in the 3.0-3.4 range. I just don't know the different Rogues all that well, buf I did like the Aldila Tour Green and Blue shafts.This is a great thread, interesting observations. Thanks

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Stopped in a store to check out the Fusion today and I actually like the triangular head. Seems easier to aim and that is big for me. I seem to have target alignment issues with drivers that I don't have with irons.

 

For those who have adjusted their Fusion, if I got a 45.5 inch model and cut a 1/2 inch off the butt to get it to 45, is it easy with the weights to get the swingweight I want? The setup I like is either the Diamana S+ (Blueboard) 70 or D+ (Whiteboard) 70 in stiff. Want to play it at 45 inches and D3.

 

I play an 80g Whiteboard in my X2 Hot 3Deep and love how it performs. Have always fit these shafts well so am sticking with them, but I know I will hit the Diamana Red stock shaft too high.

 

Would go with the whiteboard in driver but with this head am worried it will launch too low and possibly spin too low as well. So Blueboard is probably more likely as I also like that the S+ is counterbalanced. I read that the Whiteboard is "not as counterbalanced," though not sure what that means.

 

If someone can recommend a Rogue that is similar to the Diamanas would consider that too. Had a Rogue Silver and found it too harsh. I usually like a little torque for feel, in the 3.0-3.4 range. I just don't know the different Rogues all that well, buf I did like the Aldila Tour Green and Blue shafts.This is a great thread, interesting observations. Thanks

Rogue Black a little higher spin 3.6-3.8 I think little higher launch perhaps.

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You can adjust the swingweight by changing the weight. There is a 12g weight for the 44.5 length and a lighter one (5g?) for the longer length. You can probably get other weights tha fit from somewhere like Billybob Golf.

 

For me, the stndard Fusion is a little light. I had the heavy weight with a regular length but slightly heavier Hzrdus shaft and that felt right to me.

 

I've tried the Rogue Silver and Black but not in a Fusion. Neither are what I would call low spin, with the Black being slightly higher launch and spin than the Silver

 

If you like the Whiteboard, I'd try that. I had my best results with the Hzrdus Black and Yellow. Both are low launch and spin, but I have a strong positive AOA, and the Fusion is quite high launching, so I got near ideal numbers.

 

 

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Callaway will just send you the weight(s) without issue if you call them. I picked up a Fusion with the 12g weight, but wanted to try the 5g weight as well. I called Callaway, and they sent me the 5g weight no questions asked.

 

In the end, the Fusion did not really work for me, at least in the 10.5*. Light or heavy swing weight, short or standard shaft length. I tried multiple shafts. Again though, kudos to Callaway for offering up this easy way to try shorter length drivers (without the usual corresponding low swing weight). If I can someday pick up the 13.5* head cheap at some point, and dial that loft down, it might work better for me. I need to loft up on drivers.

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You can adjust the swingweight by changing the weight. There is a 12g weight for the 44.5 length and a lighter one (5g?) for the longer length. You can probably get other weights tha fit from somewhere like Billybob Golf.

 

For me, the stndard Fusion is a little light. I had the heavy weight with a regular length but slightly heavier Hzrdus shaft and that felt right to me.

 

I've tried the Rogue Silver and Black but not in a Fusion. Neither are what I would call low spin, with the Black being slightly higher launch and spin than the Silver

 

If you like the Whiteboard, I'd try that. I had my best results with the Hzrdus Black and Yellow. Both are low launch and spin, but I have a strong positive AOA, and the Fusion is quite high launching, so I got near ideal numbers.

 

Thanks for this. With Fusion being such a high launcher, a whiteboard may bring that down a bit. (I have no problems with elevation, so want more penetrating flight.)

 

I can say that Diamana D+ 80 I have in my Callaway X2 Hot 3 Deep is a winning combo. Ball just gets out there and fast. It never balloons. Many holes, I can just tee off with that. It is 43 inches and I hit it in the fairway far more than my 45.75 inch driver.

 

Might set up a Fusion at 44.5 to 45 and see how it goes! If I can get more consistency off the tee, I can really improve. I hit a lot of greens in regulation, but the majority of those have not been approach shots hit from the fairway.

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I own a 9* Fusion w/diamana and a 10.5* Epic Rogue Max 65. Both are stiff. I played the fusion last winter and jumped on the epic bandwagon this spring. As a result, I've not yet played the fusion during good weather. This is in part due to the epic loft (10.5) being more suited to me. The fusion was good but cold weather isn't a fair comparison. The Epic is the longest driver I've played and pretty forgiving.

 

Fast forwarded to today. I go to a demo to try an Epic in a different shaft and to compare Epic to m1. I ask my buddy (rep) if the Fusions are selling and he said nearly everyone he has gotten to try it, likes it better than Epic.

 

He put me in Fusion 10.5* with Recoil 450/F4 at 44.5" and 12g weight. Wow!!! Best hits are nearly as long as Epic and misses are longer than Epic and wow, Fusion was way way way straighter for me than Epic.

 

I'll be putting the Fusion in the bag for my next round to see if the 9* fusion at 45/46" can compare to the 44.5" w/recoil. I hope it works. If not, I'll be looking for the 44.5" Fusion in 10.5*.

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I own a 9* Fusion w/diamana and a 10.5* Epic Rogue Max 65. Both are stiff. I played the fusion last winter and jumped on the epic bandwagon this spring. As a result, I've not yet played the fusion during good weather. This is in part due to the epic loft (10.5) being more suited to me. The fusion was good but cold weather isn't a fair comparison. The Epic is the longest driver I've played and pretty forgiving.

 

Fast forwarded to today. I go to a demo to try an Epic in a different shaft and to compare Epic to m1. I ask my buddy (rep) if the are Fusions are selling and he said nearby everyone he has gotten to try it, likes it better than Epic.

 

He put me in Fusion 10.5* with Recoil 450/F4 at 44.5" and 12g weight. Wow!!! Best hits are near,y as long as Epic and misses are longer than Epic and wow, Fusion was way way way straighter for me than Epic.

 

I'll be putting the Fusion in the bag for my next round to see if the 9* fusion at 45/46" can compare to the 44.5" w/recoil. I hope it works. If not, I'll be looking for the 44.5" Fusion in 10.5*.

 

Yeah, was wondering about 9 vs 10.5 but I was thinking 10.5 with a whiteboard. Glad to hear you liked that Recoil driver shaft. Don't hear much about it. Most of them come with that. I'm just waiting for them to drop one more rung in price on the used market.

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Here is hoping what I've already got will do the job. That stated, if I move the epic and current fusion that should provide the funds needed to acquire a fusion with the correct specs.

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TaylorMade M4 3 hybrid stiff Atmos
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Callaway Apex CF19  5-A w/KBS $-Taper 120
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I put the Fusion 10.5 with the 44.5 recoil in play for four rounds so far and it just wants to go straight. Very consistent driver. To say I'm pleased is an understatement.

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HYBRIDS - PING G410 3H

IRONS - PING i210 4-PW

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I'm a little surprised the Fusion hasn't gotten at least a bit more love as well.

 

I'll 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th, or,,,, :rolleyes: ) how straight this driver is. Hard to turn it either way.

 

I've been out of the country since December and am DYING to try the Epic, launched just after I left :ninja: . But before I left I was having LOTS of driving problems "chasing" a positive AoA.

 

I treated myself to a birthday present of a very slightly used 9* Fusion driver with the Diamana Red shaft. Now, I've never even tried the Red because a high(er) launch is something I don't need but that was the stock shaft. I have used the Whiteboard and the Blueboard over the last 10 or so years and I do like Diamana shafts.

 

Got some pretty decent numbers on the LM including a surprisingly low spin rate for such a (presumably) high handicapper's driver, so I bought a recently traded back Fusion for a slight discount ($350).

 

Anyway, I didn't use it right away. Just used my Cobra Bio Cell+. I HAVE been using it for about 4 months now and I don't find any noticeable improvement (or loss) in length but it is definitely "point and shoot". Hard to curve in either direction, even if you try.

 

And the Diamana Red ? Well, having stopped chasing the upward AoA and swinging mostly level again I find that if I tee it high it flies high. If I tee it down I hit low bullets. D'Ohhhhhhhh.

 

An added plus - I can tee it low and hit a "punch drive", sawing off the follow through, giving up about 20 yards but hitting it dead straight - and into the wind this shot works verrrrrry well.

 

Net-net I get back to the states in 3 weeks and can't wait to try the Epic. I also expect I'll try to pick up a few different shafts to try with the Fusion (a bonus that they'd fit the Epic as well if I get one of those). I'm thinking the Tour AD line. I actually hit a Titleist D3 and an XR14 Pro a few times here on the course, both with Tour AD shafts (1 MJ-6 and the other an MT-6) and smacked them right down the pipe as well.

 

And of course because of the few swings with the XR Pro I want to try the XR16 Pro as well !!! Maybe the Sub Zero too !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sounds like you really like your Fusion!
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Will Callaway release a Fusion with jailbreak?

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I put the Fusion 10.5 with the 44.5 recoil in play for four rounds so far and it just wants to go straight. Very consistent driver. To say I'm pleased is an understatement.

 

It is one helluva driver! Mine is 9.0* with the Recoil in stiff, just awesome.

 

I actually bought the 3 wood first, same shaft, finest 3 wood I have ever had. Shop had a demo that hadn't been hit and after trying it I asked them to sell me the demo straight out of the fitting cart, they did.

 

Ended up going the same route on the driver. Have a 45.5" Speeder that I switch in now and then when a change is in order...

 

I've since tried the Epic w/ Jail Break and it's a complete No Go for me vs. the Fusion.

 

I suspect Fusion's are probably popping up at a discount now, this club is a home run.

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Anyone have a view on the 9 degree head vs 10.5? Some clubs launch higher than others regardless of loft. I generally prefer to get the lower-lofted head and loft up a degree as needed, as elevation is typically not an issue for me. But if this club is super low spin, I might opt for the 10.5 head.

 

I can only give an educated guess for your game, but I don't think you really need to go down to a 9* head with the Fusion. I don't have any hard numbers, but out on the course for me, the 10.5* was more low launching than high launching, and seemed to be lower spin than many drivers I have hit. So if I had to pick one option for you, I would suggest the 10.5*.

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I tested both the 9* and the 10.5* before purchasing and I found the 10.5* had a more consistent ball flight. Also went with the shorter shaft with the 12 gram weight in the head and I'm hitting the centre more often and no distance loss. If anything, I'm longer now.

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HYBRIDS - PING G410 3H

IRONS - PING i210 4-PW

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Sneaky long club, super straight yet still workable in both directions. Playing mine at 45.5" with a Veylix Roughneck 75X & I love this club. Sold my Epics, although they were a touch longer overall. Only problem I have with this club is now it sounds like something is broke & rattling inside when tapped on the ground. However when swinging there's no sound at all. And contact is dead solid perfect. I'm going to pull the weight out next time I play to see if it's cracking. I've heard the weight can break. Its the only thing I can think of that could be making that sound.

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I tested both the 9* and the 10.5* before purchasing and I found the 10.5* had a more consistent ball flight. Also went with the shorter shaft with the 12 gram weight in the head and I'm hitting the centre more often and no distance loss. If anything, I'm longer now.

 

Thanks Jeffrey R and jbandalo.

 

I also see the 10.5 head as more likely to be the better fairway finder as well, just because a little loft helps. Accuracy is the No. 1 thing I am looking for. I hit it far enough, about 105 SS with a driver. I want more consistency in hitting fairways.

 

I am thinking 44.5 inch version with stock diamana red in stiff or x. (I hear players can handle a little more stiffness in this model shaft and I am the classic tweener between stiff and x.)

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Best place to buy? 10.5* Recoil 450 F4 @ 44.5"

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PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s
Callaway Apex CF19  5-A w/KBS $-Taper 120
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Best place to buy? 10.5* Recoil 450 F4 @ 44.5"

 

New? Best price I have seen for that club is $359.99 on eBay. Used are running $250-$300, depending on condition. I think they initially were $449 retail?

 

Bought mine (slightly) used, no doubt a new club return, from PGATSS last November at $349.

 

$399 at the time IIRC (either shaft).

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Sold my original 9* Fusion with 5g weight in stiff Diamana red at the standard longer length. Although I hit it well, I felt the loft was too low.

 

Therefore, a Fusion 10.5* with 12g weight and Recoil 450 stiff at 44.5" is in route to battle the Epic. Due Monday.

 

Currently hitting the Epic very well on the course on good days. Not so good on bad days. I demo' the Epic, Fusion and m1 on a day I had a very poor swing. The 10.5* Fusion at 44.5" indicated I hit the Fusion much better when swing is poor.

 

Battle to begin as soon as Monday.

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Callaway Apex CF19  5-A w/KBS $-Taper 120
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Went to a Callaway fit day thinking I'd wind up with a Sub Zero. First I got less spin with the Epic, then because of this thread I asked the guy to put the shaft that was working in the Epic in the Fusion - best numbers with the Fusion and a Whiteboard 80x.

 

I was swinging like garbage and the thing still worked. Was very surprising.

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Sold my original 9* Fusion with 5g weight in stiff Diamana red at the standard longer length. Although I hit it well, I felt the loft was too low.Loft was too low

 

Therefore, a Fusion 10.5* with 12g weight and Recoil 450 stiff at 44.5" is in route to battle the Epic. Due Monday.

 

Currently hitting the Epic very well on the course on good days. Not so good on bad days. I demo' the Epic, Fusion and m1 on a day I had a very poor swing. The 10.5* Fusion at 44.5" indicated I hit the Fusion much better when swing is poor.

 

Battle to begin as soon as Monday.

 

Club arrived but had the 5g weight and not the 12g weight. CPO is sending the weight. Hopefully here before the weekend.

TaylorMade Kingdom M4 9.5* Red 5S stiff Atmos 44.5”
TaylorMade M4 3HL 16.5* fairway stiff Atmos
TaylorMade M4 3 hybrid stiff Atmos
TaylorMade M4 4 hybrid stiff Atmos
PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s
Callaway Apex CF19  5-A w/KBS $-Taper 120
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Seemore si5, si3 and Directed Force 2.0
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