PXG Commercials are really really really bad - am I right?

[nicelife]

I have a PROTO that might get kicked out of the bag based on the commercials. I don't need an old man talking to me about SEXY.

[BallerNate]

47 minutes ago, dlygrisse said:

Well, like it or not, it's paying for the telecast.   So if it really bothers you turn the channel.  

 

You know what really cranks my gears?  Paying for cable TV or streaming services and then seeing commercials in general.  In the "good old days" you got free, all 3 channels broadcast to you, and free radio, whatever was on the dial....and you lived with the commercials because you knew it was free.  Now, you get double the commercials and pay for it.  It's cray-cray.  I do subscribe to Sirius for my music, it's great, no commercials, just an occasional "DJ" blathering on about their personal issues on occasion but I pay for music and I get music.  I'm old enough to remember when cable TV became mainstream, the original idea was less commercials, because you are paying for it.  

Agree 100%...I hate commercials and cable companies and networks are absolutely double-dipping by collecting Billions from consumers and from advertisers.

 

The way I get around it is recording everything I want to watch on DVR, and then fast-forwarding commercials. “Playing-thru” puts a damper on that, but at least you can still watch the action while being sold to.

[Therealpatgiles]

2 hours ago, MUNIGRIT said:

Yeah i don't have any PXG clubs either. If people want to bash Bob for anything it should be for him raising the floor on the cost of clubs. Other OEM saw what he was selling clubs for and raised their prices.

Do you honestly think the big guys thought hey, this company with probably 3 percent market share is doing something, we should raise prices? Lolol

[LPSISCO]

I’m brand agnostic on clubs - I’ve played so many different brands of clubs, and obviously some worked better than others. I’ve had less success with Titleist and TM, but if I found something from them that l liked better than what I’m playing, I’ll switch. 
 

As far as soft goods, though - I’m also totally out on Nike. “Wokeism” is a serious disease in this country, but it’s particularly deadly when employed by such a hypocritical company. So, in their case, I vote with my wallet. 

Edited February 15, 2021 by LPSISCO

[dlygrisse]

16 minutes ago, BallerNate said:

Agree 100%...I hate commercials and cable companies and networks are absolutely double-dipping by collecting Billions from consumers and from advertisers.

 

The way I get around it is recording everything I want to watch on DVR, and then fast-forwarding commercials. “Playing-thru” puts a damper on that, but at least you can still watch the action while being sold to.

With all the "reality" TV stuff they have been doing they are triple dipping, they don't have to pay "real" people as much as Hollyweird actors.  

[BallerNate]

2 minutes ago, dlygrisse said:

With all the "reality" TV stuff they have been doing they are triple dipping, they don't have to pay "real" people as much as Hollyweird actors.  

💯💯 So true! And to be totally fair to PXG, I hate all commercials...but theirs are obnoxious on a whole other level!

[btyh]

20 minutes ago, Nixhex524 said:

Srixon is underpriced IMO, and does not have a huge winning tour presence.  Does that mean their stuff doesn't perform or is inferior?  Hell no.  I don't hit TM drivers well, but the longest hitters on tour sure seem to find success.  The argument that modern day gear "lacks performance" solely comes down to the user, all these OEMs are making really good stuff and it just depends on who has the hot hands in the moment.  James Hahn almost pulled it off last week but shat the bed on Sunday.    Dude was on a tear for a bit, was THAT because of the clubs?   Spieth?  Maybe Titleist sucks because they failed him two weeks in a row on Sunday.  It's understandable to hate certain aspects of PXG, but the clubs are quality and do not underperform...  give them a try.

They underperformed when the prices were extreme. No pun intended. Price is starting to match today with how they stack up against other brands. Srixon is underpriced but they are leaps and bounds doing it a better way than pxg and srixon has a impressive woods line that will be under the radar this year. I have tried pxg and I try every brand. But pxg will forever be overpriced for elitist from the initial marketing that didn't stack up against the Srixons taylormades and titleists ect. 

[btyh]

20 minutes ago, Nixhex524 said:

Srixon is underpriced IMO, and does not have a huge winning tour presence.  Does that mean their stuff doesn't perform or is inferior?  Hell no.  I don't hit TM drivers well, but the longest hitters on tour sure seem to find success.  The argument that modern day gear "lacks performance" solely comes down to the user, all these OEMs are making really good stuff and it just depends on who has the hot hands in the moment.  James Hahn almost pulled it off last week but shat the bed on Sunday.    Dude was on a tear for a bit, was THAT because of the clubs?   Spieth?  Maybe Titleist sucks because they failed him two weeks in a row on Sunday.  It's understandable to hate certain aspects of PXG, but the clubs are quality and do not underperform...  give them a try.

They underperformed when the prices were extreme. No pun intended. Price is starting to match today with how they stack up against other brands. Srixon is underpriced but they are leaps and bounds doing it a better way than pxg and srixon has a impressive woods line that will be under the radar this year. I have tried pxg and I try every brand. But pxg will forever be overpriced for elitist from the initial marketing that didn't stack up against the Srixons taylormades and titleists ect. 

[btyh]

20 minutes ago, Nixhex524 said:

Srixon is underpriced IMO, and does not have a huge winning tour presence.  Does that mean their stuff doesn't perform or is inferior?  Hell no.  I don't hit TM drivers well, but the longest hitters on tour sure seem to find success.  The argument that modern day gear "lacks performance" solely comes down to the user, all these OEMs are making really good stuff and it just depends on who has the hot hands in the moment.  James Hahn almost pulled it off last week but shat the bed on Sunday.    Dude was on a tear for a bit, was THAT because of the clubs?   Spieth?  Maybe Titleist sucks because they failed him two weeks in a row on Sunday.  It's understandable to hate certain aspects of PXG, but the clubs are quality and do not underperform...  give them a try.

They underperformed when the prices were extreme. No pun intended. Price is starting to match today with how they stack up against other brands. Srixon is underpriced but they are leaps and bounds doing it a better way than pxg and srixon has a impressive woods line that will be under the radar this year. I have tried pxg and I try every brand. But pxg will forever be overpriced for elitist from the initial marketing that didn't stack up against the Srixons taylormades and titleists ect. 

[btyh]

Not sure why it triple posted....

[MUNIGRIT]

25 minutes ago, Therealpatgiles said:

Do you honestly think the big guys thought hey, this company with probably 3 percent market share is doing something, we should raise prices? Lolol

Absolutely. They saw how expensive he was selling clubs and raised their prices. They were losing money but Parsons has so many businesses it just was more of a hobby. Proces have dropped now to where the rest of the OEM's raised their prices to.

Edited February 15, 2021 by MUNIGRIT

[snagy2000]

25 minutes ago, Therealpatgiles said:

Do you honestly think the big guys thought hey, this company with probably 3 percent market share is doing something, we should raise prices? Lolol

It's one of many main factors in the increase in golf equipment, especially drivers, greater than 25% since 2016. 

[Hawkeye77]

12 minutes ago, btyh said:

Not sure why it triple posted....

LOL, not like you hadn't already said it at least twice. 😉

[BlkNGld]

3 hours ago, Lobber said:

No double standard at all but this is Different.  Other companies get bashed but this thread has become personal against Bob Parsons. I don’t see any TM bathers calling out the CEO by name.  Big difference.  If somebody doesn’t like Parsons that’s fine but he has done better for himself than 99% of us on this board

 

Whether it's really him or a marketing persona, his involvement in PXGs ads and campaign in general make him out as someone with a big personality.   And those are often polarizing.

 

I'm sure that if TMs CEO were featured prominently in the Rocketballz ads, he'd have taken his share of flak too.   

[btyh]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye77 said:

LOL, not like you hadn't already said it at least twice. 😉

Lol true. 

[Hawkeye77]

Just now, btyh said:

Lol true. 

Good on you for having a sense of humor!

[btyh]

9 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Good on you for having a sense of humor!

I mean you're right! I'm human, but my statement is pretty valid even though most won't admit to it. 

Edited February 15, 2021 by btyh

[BIG STU]

2 hours ago, miamistomp said:

 I guess my bag reflects the mixing pot

  Nike driver,  Taylor made fairway, Mizuno hybrid, Cobra f8 irons- Ping Eye 2 and Wilson Be Cu wedges and Ping B61 0r Rife Anser type putter

 

   Jones bag 

Hey as you know I am a big fan of a mixed bag play what works--- And the Jones bag Non demonitional as I say

[BIG STU]

54 minutes ago, LPSISCO said:

I’m brand agnostic on clubs - I’ve played so many different brands of clubs, and obviously some worked better than others. I’ve had less success with Titleist and TM, but if I found something from them that l liked better than what I’m playing, I’ll switch. 
 

As far as soft goods, though - I’m also totally out on Nike. “Wokeism” is a serious disease in this company, but it’s particularly deadly when employed by such a hypocritical company. So, in their case, I vote with my wallet. 

As our esteemed fellow WRXer Fairway Fred puts it "Free Agent Club Ho" Hey nothing wrong with that because I for one am the same way

[pak]

45 minutes ago, BlkNGld said:

 

Whether it's really him or a marketing persona, his involvement in PXGs ads and campaign in general make him out as someone with a big personality.   And those are often polarizing.

 

I'm sure that if TMs CEO were featured prominently in the Rocketballz ads, he'd have taken his share of flak too.   

Remember Greg Hopkins in Cleveland Golf ads. Not the best period in company history. 

[BlkNGld]

13 minutes ago, pak said:

Remember Greg Hopkins in Cleveland Golf ads. Not the best period in company history. 

 

I don't remember him having a particularly big personality.   Just a collection of argyle sweaters.

[GrandStranded]

6 hours ago, Red4282 said:

Wow what a thread. I was impartial on pxg, just not my thing, but one things for sure, fan-boy mentality is such a turnoff. Im saying that as kindly as possible. PXG might be the ultimate fan boy club... the WHOLE bag is always PXG... 

Another dumb statement.

...and the issue with this thread isn’t a bunch of PXG fan boys, it’s the ignorance being shown by those who aren’t.

 

Edited February 15, 2021 by john myrbch

[BIG STU]

4 hours ago, dlygrisse said:

Well, like it or not, it's paying for the telecast.   So if it really bothers you turn the channel.  

 

You know what really cranks my gears?  Paying for cable TV or streaming services and then seeing commercials in general.  In the "good old days" you got free, all 3 channels broadcast to you, and free radio, whatever was on the dial....and you lived with the commercials because you knew it was free.  Now, you get double the commercials and pay for it.  It's cray-cray.  I do subscribe to Sirius for my music, it's great, no commercials, just an occasional "DJ" blathering on about their personal issues on occasion but I pay for music and I get music.  I'm old enough to remember when cable TV became mainstream, the original idea was less commercials, because you are paying for it.  

Yep I am old enough to remember the good old days of cable with no commercials and MTV really did play just music.

I guess now days it is just corporate greed

[LPSISCO]

3 hours ago, snagy2000 said:

It's one of many main factors in the increase in golf equipment, especially drivers, greater than 25% since 2016. 

I agree.  Just like Callaway did first with drivers with the Big Bertha, and Scotty did first with putters. 

[DFDLT]

Remember when people talked about how Taylor Made wasn’t any better than any other clubs, they just paid their athletes more to use their clubs? So Bob is doing the same, he’s just spending money on commercials. But instead people claim his clubs aren’t as good as other clubs which makes no sense.  I can grab every driver off of the rack and some are going to work for me better than others.  Guess what’s not on the rack though, PXG.  So I can’t compare it to the rest at say PGASS, GG, Dick’s, etc. I have to go to a range day or a PXG store which is 3 hours from me in Chicago.  I think before long, everyone will put PXG in line with the other big name golf brands. 

[Ghostwedge]

4 hours ago, Hawkeye77 said:

I must be seeing different commercials?  I usually see PXG clubs, lots of text, maybe a pro here or there - haven't seen ads for "creepy old men" yet, maybe I'm watching the wrong programs, lol.

Old creepers are to cheap to buy PXG stuff. I do see 30-40 yr old low caps with PXG stuff around. And some former NFL players on the course with them.

[Nixhex524]

3 hours ago, btyh said:

They underperformed when the prices were extreme. No pun intended. Price is starting to match today with how they stack up against other brands. Srixon is underpriced but they are leaps and bounds doing it a better way than pxg and srixon has a impressive woods line that will be under the radar this year. I have tried pxg and I try every brand. But pxg will forever be overpriced for elitist from the initial marketing that didn't stack up against the Srixons taylormades and titleists ect. 

 

Well, I mean if anyone is buying clubs based on the line of thought that they will perform better because they are more expensive, they are probably in for a rude awakening anyway and also a marketing departments wet dream.   

 

I got my 0811 XF Gen 2 driver for less than $280 shipped to my door, BNIP, from PXG.  A TM, Titleist, even Srixon driver is on it's way to $600!  But PXG is elitist?  LOL   I get that their marketing strategy may aim in a certain direction but for the current prices on some of their gear, it's anything BUT elitist.  Is Parsons near the red on the annoying scale?  Sure.  No doubt.  I'm just not buying that the gear itself bears any of the responsibility of tour players not winning.  Norlander had his chances yesterday, and Hahn his only, what, a week ago?  The gear is quality, maybe not for your game or marketing tolerance, but I believe some of the best value right now when the facts are that clubs can be had for less than almost every other OEM out there.  Maybe Parsons realized his initial strategy was poor, finally, no arguments there.

 

 

Edited February 15, 2021 by Nixhex524

[Hawkeye77]

I freely admit I bought a TM driver many years ago (and one of those pro only kind, lol) at a demo day in Des Moines.  I ended up hitting one next to Dr. Tom Davis, former Iowa BB coach, and he was liking his (and hitting it awesome) and I was overswinging and convincing myself it was great, and sure enough we ended up at the card table out there at the same time to put in our orders, and having a nice chat.  Shaft was all wrong for me and I could never hit it high enough - I think I used it for three weeks, and only then because I was stubborn - I knew after a couple of rounds and a range session at home it was no good for me. Expensive lesson.

Edited February 15, 2021 by Hawkeye77

[dlygrisse]

50 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

Yep I am old enough to remember the good old days of cable with no commercials and MTV really did play just music.

I guess now days it is just corporate greed

It's the TV contracts, the NFL salary cap is the TV contract, basically.  NBA, PGA, all of them.  The reason players today make so much more than they did pre-Tiger?  TV contracts.  No matter how big Tiger was, he wasn't going to bring that much more to the game in terms of prize money, exposure, without TV.  Sure the tournament sponsers upped their game, but they weren't going up up their game without TV exposure, more of it, more talk about it. more rounds, more hours more events.  The networks came up with the money and they passed it on through more commercials, and bigger cable fees.  

[dlygrisse]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

I freely admit I bought a TM driver many years ago (and one of those pro only kind, lol) at a demo day in Des Moines.  I ended up hitting one next to Dr. Tom Davis, former Iowa BB coach, and he was liking his (and hitting it awesome) and I was overswinging and convincing myself it was great, and sure enough we ended up at the card table out there at the same time to put in our orders, and having a nice chat.  Shaft was all wrong for me and I could never hit it high enough - I think I used it for three weeks, and only then because I was stubborn - I knew after a couple of rounds and a range session at home it was no good for me. Expensive lesson.

I think most of us can relate, I learned my lesson big time, and I think it was the shaft, somehow it seemed,  good the day I bought it, but a week later I can to the realization I needed a softer shaft.  I've made the same mistake with hybrids that don't have enough loft, 7 wood now forever baby.