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opinions are like ......well you know......move on......this is going nowhere.

 

So if everything is relative (you claim this over and over in various ways) why do you participate in a public discussuion forum? Wherever you're challenged you fall back on empty platitudes like "statistics lie" and "everyone has an opinion." If there is no such such thing as truth and rationality, why bother with public dialogue?

 

This thread has a lot of useful information but you refuse to listen to anything that doesn't support your perceived position and you continually run for cover in a dank swamp of sophomoric relativism.

 

 

It seems like OP wanted validation not have a discussion and share opinion on the matter

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OP is tired of the illogical rants of people who think they know more than Phil Michelson. Yawn....

 

Ah, your confirmation bias appears again! You shouldn't be so proud of your reliance on logical fallacies.

 

And you shouldn't misuse Phil's decision for The Open. It's one course at one point in time. This in no way supports your position. He's still a driver first player who makes decisions based on very different criteria than the vague handwaving appeals to "accuracy" that you've made.

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lol......yea, phil says he is more accurate with the 3 wood and you say its wrong......gotta love it......

 

Again, you distort your opponent's views.

 

Of course, a 3 wood is more accurate than a driver if accurate means a more narrow dispersion.

 

A 5 wood is more accurate than a 3 wood if accurate means a more narrow dispersion.

 

A 3 hybrid is more accurate than a 5 wood if accurate means a more narrow dispersion.

 

And so on.

 

(PSG and others have been through this with you multiple times. So I have to assume at this point that you're being dense on purpose because you crave the attention you can get, even negative attention.)

 

What you refuse to accept is that "more accurate" isn't the overriding consideration for choosing what club to hit. If you followed your own logic, you'd hit a lob wedge from the tee on a par 5.

 

Instead, the general concern is what club will get me closest to the hole without a high probability of losing strokes to hazards, etc.

 

Again, Fawcett is very methodical in outlining this thinking process. But you refuse to engage in any argument that has any nuance or sophistication. You simply want to tilt at windmills and build straw men for adversaries.

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PSG and Fawcett know more than phil...got it.....

 

lol

 

Fawcett probably does actually. "Knowing a lot about course management" and "being able to swing 118 mph on plane under pressure repeatedly" arn't the same skills.

 

Issac Newton probably knew more about force and traction and their interaction with the ground but I doubt he could outrun Usain Bolt.

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Phil is taking out the driver for 1,one,uno tournament because this course would probably have too many of those stroke causing hazards that have been discussed at length in here. If this was the waste management open you can bet he would be back bombing it. Do you think Zach Johnson is leaving his driver at home ?

 

Again it is about the risk. If this course will cost you stokes, bad decision to play it. If it don't at the next course then it's not a bad decision. Do you got that ?

 

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im not mocking it. Im just saying his theory doesn't hold water, especially when you playa course like erin hills and your theory doesn't hold water either....but were off point anyway....the topic is the 3w vs driver.....should fitting be changed? I mean if you get on a monitor and field test a driver with a much shorter shaft but hit it straight and 20 yard shorter, shouldn't that be factored in?

 

Its pretty on-point, actually. You arn't getting straighter. Your just getting shorter on the same line.

 

 

 

Which golfer is the "most accurate", 1, 2, 3 or 4? Two are in the fairway, ones in the trees, one is OB. Are 1 and 2, in your mind, "more accurate" than 3 and 4? (pretend the red ballflight line is straight). If you had to place a bet on which of these players was the best based solely on this diagram, which would you pick?

 

If shortening the shaft changes the line, it should be done. But if it just reduces speed so you are shorter on the same line, its silly.

 

More to the point, which golfer, above, would you rather be? I mean, two of them are in the fairway...

 

 

Call this golf? Where I play 3 is in the gorse never to be seen again and 4 is half way to Norway. The game is about direction and distance (subtelty you might say) and the obsession with length is (only) one of the things that's killing the game.

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im not mocking it. Im just saying his theory doesn't hold water, especially when you playa course like erin hills and your theory doesn't hold water either....but were off point anyway....the topic is the 3w vs driver.....should fitting be changed? I mean if you get on a monitor and field test a driver with a much shorter shaft but hit it straight and 20 yard shorter, shouldn't that be factored in?

 

Its pretty on-point, actually. You arn't getting straighter. Your just getting shorter on the same line.

 

 

 

Which golfer is the "most accurate", 1, 2, 3 or 4? Two are in the fairway, ones in the trees, one is OB. Are 1 and 2, in your mind, "more accurate" than 3 and 4? (pretend the red ballflight line is straight). If you had to place a bet on which of these players was the best based solely on this diagram, which would you pick?

 

If shortening the shaft changes the line, it should be done. But if it just reduces speed so you are shorter on the same line, its silly.

 

More to the point, which golfer, above, would you rather be? I mean, two of them are in the fairway...

 

 

Call this golf? Where I play 3 is in the gorse never to be seen again and 4 is half way to Norway. The game is about direction and distance (subtelty you might say) and the obsession with length is (only) one of the things that's killing the game.

 

Other than the OP, the rest of us are far beyond the posts you quote and we--again not including the OP--agree that the consideration is both direction and distance. You'll find quite a bit of subtlety in the rest of the thread.

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Read the last few pages after stepping away from this thread, man has this topic devolved.

 

There is a fundamental disagreement of how relevant stats are to deciding how you play a course. Some people get it and others don't. If the ones who don't still don't after 18 pages of dialogue, then they probably will never. Sometimes it's just best to move on and go back to arguing something productive like blades vs GI clubs.

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im not mocking it. Im just saying his theory doesn't hold water, especially when you playa course like erin hills and your theory doesn't hold water either....but were off point anyway....the topic is the 3w vs driver.....should fitting be changed? I mean if you get on a monitor and field test a driver with a much shorter shaft but hit it straight and 20 yard shorter, shouldn't that be factored in?

 

Its pretty on-point, actually. You arn't getting straighter. Your just getting shorter on the same line.

 

 

 

Which golfer is the "most accurate", 1, 2, 3 or 4? Two are in the fairway, ones in the trees, one is OB. Are 1 and 2, in your mind, "more accurate" than 3 and 4? (pretend the red ballflight line is straight). If you had to place a bet on which of these players was the best based solely on this diagram, which would you pick?

 

If shortening the shaft changes the line, it should be done. But if it just reduces speed so you are shorter on the same line, its silly.

 

More to the point, which golfer, above, would you rather be? I mean, two of them are in the fairway...

 

 

Call this golf? Where I play 3 is in the gorse never to be seen again and 4 is half way to Norway. The game is about direction and distance (subtelty you might say) and the obsession with length is (only) one of the things that's killing the game.

 

Other than the OP, the rest of us are far beyond the posts you quote and we--again not including the OP--agree that the consideration is both direction and distance. You'll find quite a bit of subtlety in the rest of the thread.

 

Yeah I can never tell when someone has read the whole thing or just hits "reply" and ignores weeks of clarifications, concessions and arguments.

 

Distance and direction are not independent is the point. People think of them as different but they are tightly correlated. The shorter you are the more "accurate" you are and the longer you are the less accurate you are (since impact is measured in degrees, more distance at the same open/closed goes further "offline" - but its just further/shorter on the same line).

 

I don't believe that if I offered you a chance to magically become as long as golfer 4 you would say no.

 

Distance has always been the most important thing in golf success for most players. Nicklaus used it to dominate in the 1970s, Tiger in the early 2000s and everyone who wins majors today is super long. It's the best way to play. Nobody has ever dominated golf for a significant period through any other skill.

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im not mocking it. Im just saying his theory doesn't hold water, especially when you playa course like erin hills and your theory doesn't hold water either....but were off point anyway....the topic is the 3w vs driver.....should fitting be changed? I mean if you get on a monitor and field test a driver with a much shorter shaft but hit it straight and 20 yard shorter, shouldn't that be factored in?

 

Its pretty on-point, actually. You arn't getting straighter. Your just getting shorter on the same line.

 

 

 

Which golfer is the "most accurate", 1, 2, 3 or 4? Two are in the fairway, ones in the trees, one is OB. Are 1 and 2, in your mind, "more accurate" than 3 and 4? (pretend the red ballflight line is straight). If you had to place a bet on which of these players was the best based solely on this diagram, which would you pick?

 

If shortening the shaft changes the line, it should be done. But if it just reduces speed so you are shorter on the same line, its silly.

 

More to the point, which golfer, above, would you rather be? I mean, two of them are in the fairway...

 

 

Call this golf? Where I play 3 is in the gorse never to be seen again and 4 is half way to Norway. The game is about direction and distance (subtelty you might say) and the obsession with length is (only) one of the things that's killing the game.

 

Other than the OP, the rest of us are far beyond the posts you quote and we--again not including the OP--agree that the consideration is both direction and distance. You'll find quite a bit of subtlety in the rest of the thread.

 

Yeah I can never tell when someone has read the whole thing or just hits "reply" and ignores weeks of clarifications, concessions and arguments.

 

Distance and direction are not independent is the point. People think of them as different but they are tightly correlated. The shorter you are the more "accurate" you are and the longer you are the less accurate you are (since impact is measured in degrees, more distance at the same open/closed goes further "offline" - but its just further/shorter on the same line).

 

I don't believe that if I offered you a chance to magically become as long as golfer 4 you would say no.

 

Distance has always been the most important thing in golf success for most players. Nicklaus used it to dominate in the 1970s, Tiger in the early 2000s and everyone who wins majors today is super long. It's the best way to play. Nobody has ever dominated golf for a significant period through any other skill.

 

To the detriment of rational discourse, people like slogans and folksy sayings. It's quick and easy. Bomb and gouge, a popular but negative slogan, makes it easy to dismiss a mountain of data that demonstrates length as a key component of a strong long-term golf game. You can debate the data at the edges but its core is indisputable.

 

At the same time, length needs course management. Untamed length may be good for stud horses but it's not that helpful in posting low golf scores. Yet you'll notice the paucity of course management discussion on this site. It's not quick and easy. One can't buy course management and fetishize it like one can with golf clubs.

 

(Side note: Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow is extremely revelant to all of this.)

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Slightly OT but many say three wood is as long as driver. Do people really WANT their three wood to be almost as long as their driver?

 

Interesting that you bring this up as I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. How could someone with this problem not try to fix it?

I think my solution will be to go with a 19 hybrid as my longest club after driver.

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Slightly OT but many say three wood is as long as driver. Do people really WANT their three wood to be almost as long as their driver?

 

Interesting that you bring this up as I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. How could someone with this problem not try to fix it?

I think my solution will be to go with a 19 hybrid as my longest club after driver.

My solution would be to learn how to hit driver better.

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Slightly OT but many say three wood is as long as driver. Do people really WANT their three wood to be almost as long as their driver?

 

Interesting that you bring this up as I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. How could someone with this problem not try to fix it?

I think my solution will be to go with a 19 hybrid as my longest club after driver.

My solution would be to learn how to hit driver better.

No I'm definitely keeping driver I average about 250 carry and normally 260-270 total. Three wood is just 10 yards behind it. Not a big enough gap.

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Slightly OT but many say three wood is as long as driver. Do people really WANT their three wood to be almost as long as their driver?

 

Interesting that you bring this up as I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. How could someone with this problem not try to fix it?

I think my solution will be to go with a 19 hybrid as my longest club after driver.

My solution would be to learn how to hit driver better.

No I'm definitely keeping driver I average about 250 carry and normally 260-270 total. Three wood is just 10 yards behind it. Not a big enough gap.

 

The solution isn't going to a "worse" 3

Wood it's getting better with your driver. Rawdog is right on. If you can hit a 3 wood 240 you should hit a driver way farther than 250. If you can't something is wrong and that should be the focus not making the next club down shorter. If your 5 and 6 irons don't have good enough gaps you don't replace the 6 with a second 7 iron you make the 5 longer.

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Slightly OT but many say three wood is as long as driver. Do people really WANT their three wood to be almost as long as their driver?

 

Interesting that you bring this up as I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. How could someone with this problem not try to fix it?

I think my solution will be to go with a 19 hybrid as my longest club after driver.

My solution would be to learn how to hit driver better.

No I'm definitely keeping driver I average about 250 carry and normally 260-270 total. Three wood is just 10 yards behind it. Not a big enough gap.

 

 

But have you asked yourself why you're hitting it only 10 yards less? Is it due to the loft/LA? Swing issues? Not enough club head speed? Bad fitting?

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To the detriment of rational discourse, people like slogans and folksy sayings. It's quick and easy. Bomb and gouge, a popular but negative slogan, makes it easy to dismiss a mountain of data that demonstrates length as a key component of a strong long-term golf game. You can debate the data at the edges but its core is indisputable.

 

At the same time, length needs course management. Untamed length may be good for stud horses but it's not that helpful in posting low golf scores. Yet you'll notice the paucity of course management discussion on this site. It's not quick and easy. One can't buy course management and fetishize it like one can with golf clubs.

 

(Side note: Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow is extremely revelant to all of this.)

 

This is a good point, and one that gets lost. People act as if Golfer #4 in the diagram (or any long hitter for that matter) that we are referring to as having an extreme advantage must hit to their max all the time. People were saying "well, what if you are on a really tight course...." - in that case, I *do* have a huge advantage as a long hitter because I can gear down. Nothing in the rules says that I have to swing flat out every time. If my 75% is as long as your 100% I'll have a massive advantage on a tight course because I don't need as big a swing and in a smaller swing the clubhead travels less and has a higher chance of arriving square.

 

The issue, though, is that being longer gives you way more options. As you say, the longer you are the better you have to be at course management. However, I'd much rather have the options and trust myself to make the right decision (whether pre-planned or otherwise) that will lead to optimal scoring chances versus simply not having the options because I am shorter. Length makes course management exponentially more difficult (not more important, more difficult), which is why good course management is so critical at the highest levels of golf and why it seperates so many top players from each other.

 

Alot of equipment problems are actually course management issues in disguise. I've tried to get course management to get more traction here, but its rough sledding. I know! Drop the 3 for a 5! *hardest eye roll possible*

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Phil has also played 2 drivers in the past (remember the Masters?) so going by what he does it maybe not the best idea (and I think if I was to compare his course management vs someone like Faldo's, Phil would be left wanting).

 

Intuitively, hitting your second shot from closer to the hole should give you more opportunities to score better, however I still believe it is very course and player dependent. For me, my driver is not working for my swing, and gets me maybe 10 yards over my 3 wood, with a lot worse dispersion (big slices/big pulls), so whilst I may be missing out on a couple more birdie putts per round, I am also taking a couple of OBs/hazards or blocked tee shots out of play on most of the courses I play. I have noticed that my scores have got better since I practically benched the Driver - I have pretty much taken blow up rounds out of the equation.

 

As and when I do get a better fitted driver, I will no doubt use it to attack a few more holes, but for now, and the purposes of not having an emotional break down on the course, the 3 wood is my tee club of choice.

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My 3w is 25-35 yds shorter. Which I believe is typical considering it's a 3.5* gap and 1.5" shorter. That's 2-3 clubs longer on approaches shots, which is not good. However, my accuracy with the 3w is 67% vs. 48% and my miss with the driver is right. If dropping 3 clubs is doable to still have a 7i or less in and the trouble is too penal right, then I go 3w. If I am having to take out 5i or worse then I take my chances with driver. Or if the hazard is left, I still take out driver. It's all about what your clubs are doing for you and course management. You can't just make a blanket statement that 3w is more accurate. I bet a 15.5 Fusion at 44" would be more accurate than my 3deep, but shorter.

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BREAKING NEWS.....THE OP SETS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THREADS........in case anyone forgot how things work......and anyone who thinks they know more than Phil about golf may want to see a shrink...especially when it comes to quoting ridiculous stats......just saying

 

ok, rant over.....time to LOCK IT UP and watch Phil go 3 iron and 3 wood all tourney.....

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BREAKING NEWS.....THE OP SETS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THREADS........in case anyone forgot how things work......and anyone who thinks they know more than Phil about golf may want to see a shrink...especially when it comes to quoting ridiculous stats......just saying

 

ok, rant over.....time to LOCK IT UP and watch Phil go 3 iron and 3 wood all tourney.....

 

 

You asked for others thoughts, then proceeded to question everyone who doesn't think like you. There is a word for folks who start topics simply to bait posters. If that wasn't your intent, and you truly just have a hard time with folks that don't think like you, then you might want to get into politics.

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BREAKING NEWS.....THE OP SETS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THREADS........in case anyone forgot how things work......and anyone who thinks they know more than Phil about golf may want to see a shrink...especially when it comes to quoting ridiculous stats......just saying

 

ok, rant over.....time to LOCK IT UP and watch Phil go 3 iron and 3 wood all tourney.....

 

 

You asked for others thoughts, then proceeded to question everyone who doesn't think like you. There is a word for folks who start topics simply to bait posters. If that wasn't your intent, and you truly just have a hard time with folks that don't think like you, then you might want to get into politics.

i think its more like the people who never wanted to have the discussion i posted and took it in THEIR direction are the ones who need to go into politics. If you don't like it, don't post, don't read....its that simple.....Phil and I are on the same page.....a lot of the others here should have started their own STATS thread and ran with it.....but they wanted to keep trolling here......its "par for the course" as they say......this thread has been dead a long time ago. I think right when the 1st painting was released my PSGangelo it went waaaaaaaaaay of course...and he never wanted to bring it back. Classic hijacking. Enjoy the Open......Speith is killing it
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BREAKING NEWS.....THE OP SETS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THREADS........in case anyone forgot how things work......and anyone who thinks they know more than Phil about golf may want to see a shrink...especially when it comes to quoting ridiculous stats......just saying

 

ok, rant over.....time to LOCK IT UP and watch Phil go 3 iron and 3 wood all tourney.....

 

 

You asked for others thoughts, then proceeded to question everyone who doesn't think like you. There is a word for folks who start topics simply to bait posters. If that wasn't your intent, and you truly just have a hard time with folks that don't think like you, then you might want to get into politics.

i think its more like the people who never wanted to have the discussion i posted and took it in THEIR direction are the ones who need to go into politics. If you don't like it, don't post, don't read....its that simple.....Phil and I are on the same page.....a lot of the others here should have started their own STATS thread and ran with it.....but they wanted to keep trolling here......its "par for the course" as they say......this thread has been dead a long time ago. I think right when the 1st painting was released my PSGangelo it went waaaaaaaaaay of course...and he never wanted to bring it back. Classic hijacking. Enjoy the Open......Speith is killing it

 

Do you play a 64* wedge also?

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BREAKING NEWS.....THE OP SETS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THREADS........in case anyone forgot how things work......and anyone who thinks they know more than Phil about golf may want to see a shrink...especially when it comes to quoting ridiculous stats......just saying

 

ok, rant over.....time to LOCK IT UP and watch Phil go 3 iron and 3 wood all tourney.....

 

 

You asked for others thoughts, then proceeded to question everyone who doesn't think like you. There is a word for folks who start topics simply to bait posters. If that wasn't your intent, and you truly just have a hard time with folks that don't think like you, then you might want to get into politics.

i think its more like the people who never wanted to have the discussion i posted and took it in THEIR direction are the ones who need to go into politics. If you don't like it, don't post, don't read....its that simple.....Phil and I are on the same page.....a lot of the others here should have started their own STATS thread and ran with it.....but they wanted to keep trolling here......its "par for the course" as they say......this thread has been dead a long time ago. I think right when the 1st painting was released my PSGangelo it went waaaaaaaaaay of course...and he never wanted to bring it back. Classic hijacking. Enjoy the Open......Speith is killing it

 

Do you play a 64* wedge also?

64, 65...whatever it takes......

 

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      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #1
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Garrick Higgo - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Billy Horschel - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Lanto Griffin - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bud Cauley - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Corbin Burnes (2021 NL Cy Young) - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Charley Hoffman - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Victor Perez - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ryo Hisatsune - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Jake Knapp's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      New Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Tyler Duncan's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sunjae Im's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ping's Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Vincent Whaley's custom Cameron - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Odyssey Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Super Stroke custom grips - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Zac Blair's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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    • 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Tuesday #1
       
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Hardy - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Seamus Power - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Hadwin - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Kurt Kitayama - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Byeong Hun An - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nicolai Hojgaard - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Sam Burns - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Brandon Wu - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JT Poston - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Alex Smalley - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pau Gasol WITB (2x NBA Champion, 6x All-Star) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Josh Allen WITB (NFL Quarterback, Buffalo Bills) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Matt Kuchar - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JJ Spaun - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Jordan Spieth - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Svensson - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Scott (mini) - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Taylor Moore - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Ping putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      TaylorMade putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pebble Beach Golf Links (holes 7 & 8) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Odyssey putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Lucas Glover going to test black Srixon ZX5 & ZX7 irons - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Justin Thomas wrist training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Stephen Sweeney's Putting Ballistic putting training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Chris Kirk club changes - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
       
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