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Here's my take: a slight course correction is not the end of the world. In the tournament prior to the US Open, Jaye Marie Green was wearing what appeared to be to be volleyball shorts and a tee shirt. Amy Yang wears yoga pants/ tights. The length of some of the player's shorts is, TBH, really short. Apparently things have loosened up at the pro-am parties also.

 

LPGA wants to keep a good thing going. Young girls will push it (most dads will tell you this:) unless they get a reality check. So the LPGA felt it was time to tighten it up. I have no problem with it. They have a tour board and player input governance model.

 

Jaye Marie's wardrobe last week wasn't the height of traditional golf fashion, but I don't believe it would violate the new policy. There are plenty of players that wear collarless shirts and short shorts, e.g. Sandra Gal.

 

 

 

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And Sandra looks fantastic in them.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

 

“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

 

“I honestly have been shocked by the response to it. You look at other sports, the NFL, the NBA, they have a dress code when they're playing. They have a dress code when they travel. They have a dress code at functions. You guys with your jobs, you probably have a dress code, as well. I honestly don't understand the kick back we had from addressing the issues that we had on this tour, because I think we needed it to be honest.”

 

- LPGA pro Stacy Lewis

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

 

“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

 

“I honestly have been shocked by the response to it. You look at other sports, the NFL, the NBA, they have a dress code when they're playing. They have a dress code when they travel. They have a dress code at functions. You guys with your jobs, you probably have a dress code, as well. I honestly don't understand the kick back we had from addressing the issues that we had on this tour, because I think we needed it to be honest.”

 

- LPGA pro Stacy Lewis

 

Says the two ladies no one wants to see in less clothing.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

 

“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

 

“I honestly have been shocked by the response to it. You look at other sports, the NFL, the NBA, they have a dress code when they're playing. They have a dress code when they travel. They have a dress code at functions. You guys with your jobs, you probably have a dress code, as well. I honestly don't understand the kick back we had from addressing the issues that we had on this tour, because I think we needed it to be honest.”

 

- LPGA pro Stacy Lewis

 

Says the two ladies no one wants to see in less clothing.

 

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

Curious what percentage of players brought it to the board. 5%? 25%? 75%? Every organization has a number of squeaky wheels. I hope a small handful of players didn't push this through.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

A very tiny minority percentage, no doubt. And, they are likely the narrow-minded prudes...

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

So the minority.

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“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

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You're typical straw man argument.

 

No we do not need to see a side boob. Of course I watch every LPGA telecast and I've never seen a side boob. Kim is exaggerating the problem to try to justify the solution.

 

I find it amusing that in this thread the golfer that is held as an example of why this new policy is needed is a golfer that is not even on the tour.

 

I have no doubt some players... likely on the mini tours, have pushed the envelope. If so than they should have dealt with those individuals specifically.

 

If they had an issues with the pro-ams or sponsor parties they should have dealt with those issues directly.

 

The policy is not unreasonable but by having to issue a new policy all it does is make is sound like they had bigger issues than they really had.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

A very tiny minority percentage, no doubt. And, they are likely the narrow-minded prudes...

 

You know this how?

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

A very tiny minority percentage, no doubt. And, they are likely the narrow-minded prudes...

 

You know this how?

If the man says no doubt, there must be no doubt.

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Christina Kim is one of the ones who looks unprofessional! Tuck your damn shirt in!

 

I'm not hating on her for how she looks, I'm big too, but come on, if you're going to complain say what you're actually trying to say. You don't want players wearing skimpy outfits, fine, but don't hide behind "professionalism" when you're in the shorts past the knee/untucked polo crew, that's not professional either.

 

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

 

“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

 

“I honestly have been shocked by the response to it. You look at other sports, the NFL, the NBA, they have a dress code when they're playing. They have a dress code when they travel. They have a dress code at functions. You guys with your jobs, you probably have a dress code, as well. I honestly don't understand the kick back we had from addressing the issues that we had on this tour, because I think we needed it to be honest.”

 

- LPGA pro Stacy Lewis

 

Stacy is wrong. You cannot compare team sports to individual sports.

 

But I can see where Stacy is coming from. She always maintains that the girls have been underappreciated for their play and it should be the selling point to win over male audience, which she is also wrong.

 

If it is just about the golf, then we should all just watch the men. Women's golf fans tune in for a variety of reasons, golf is just part of it.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

 

“I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this is our place of business and I think players should look professional. Do you really need ventilation for your side-boob? It's not going to make your score better.”

 

- LPGA pro Christina Kim

 

“I honestly have been shocked by the response to it. You look at other sports, the NFL, the NBA, they have a dress code when they're playing. They have a dress code when they travel. They have a dress code at functions. You guys with your jobs, you probably have a dress code, as well. I honestly don't understand the kick back we had from addressing the issues that we had on this tour, because I think we needed it to be honest.”

 

- LPGA pro Stacy Lewis

 

Stacy is wrong. You cannot compare team sports to individual sports.

 

But I can see where Stacy is coming from. She always maintains that the girls have been underappreciated for their play and it should be the selling point to win over male audience, which she is also wrong.

 

If it is just about the golf, then we should all just watch the men. Women's golf fans tune in for a variety of reasons, golf is just part of it.

Stacy is delusional, LPGA golfers aren't comparable play wise to PGA Tour golfers, they probably don't compare well to Web.com golfers. Ratings and attendance for most female sporting events lags well behind the men, so while it may be reasonable for Stacy to wish for LPGA quality of golf to be the selling point, it's not and won't ever be.

 

More men watch the LPGA than women, appeal to your audience, otherwise you'll be back to having LPGA tournaments cancelled and prize money diminished.

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“The only point I agree with is that there should not be low-cut tops, but I’ve never really seen that be an issue. I think racerbacks look great on women and I think short skirts have been around forever, especially in tennis, and I don’t think it’s hurt that sport at all, considering they play for the same prize money as the men. Our main objective is clear: play good golf. But part of being a woman, and especially a female-athlete, is looking attractive and sporty and fit, and that’s what women’s tennis does so well. Why shouldn’t we? I’ve talked to a few other players and, like me, they don’t agree with it, either.”

 

- LPGA pro Sandra Gal

 

I think Sandra Gal is 100% correct... The LPGA screwed up, but they've proven to be really good at doing that... The LPGA authoritarians are just hurting the 'association' when they should be improving their reputation.

 

I cannot imagine any female agreeing with what the LPGA has done...

I completely agree with the new regulations and so do the LPGA pros that brought the issue to the LPGA board.

 

A very tiny minority percentage, no doubt. And, they are likely the narrow-minded prudes...

 

You know this how?

 

Do you really think that 'most' LPGA players (in lieu of only a tiny minority) brought this dress issue to the LPGA board? Really! Come on - surely you are not serious...

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Do you really think that 'most' LPGA players (in lieu of only a tiny minority) brought this dress issue to the LPGA board? Really! Come on - surely you are not serious...

 

I would have bet a ton of money that Lewis and Kim were two of the tour members that initiated it.

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You know this how?

 

Do you really think that 'most' LPGA players (in lieu of only a tiny minority) brought this dress issue to the LPGA board? Really! Come on - surely you are not serious...

 

I would have bet a ton of money that Lewis and Kim were two of the tour members that initiated it.

 

May be...and I would not be surprised, but (if so) that is only two LPGA tour players...representing just a tiny fraction of all the tour players.

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Why do you feel so strongly about this issue......What do you feel will be so terrible about the outcome of this?

 

I would not say that I feel 'strongly' about this issue, but I do find it more than just a little bit interesting. I hate to see any professional 'association' (like the LPGA) shoot themselves in the foot and do damage to themselves.

 

The LPGA seems to take two steps forward and one step back, then takes one step forward and three steps back. They can't get out of their own way at times. In my opinion, and obviously in the opinion of a significant number of both LPGA players and fans (as well as the non-golf public), this new dress code was not necessary and was handled in a very poor way - meaning (if necessary) it should have been dealt with on an individual one-on-one basis, and in a private manner. Once again, the LPGA has shown everyone how they continue to keep tripping all over themselves. And, I do not think that I am the only one that thinks this...

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The LPGA seems to take two steps forward and one step back, then takes one step forward and three steps back. They can't get out of their own way at times.

 

What do you base this on? In business terms the LPGA seems to have been growing since Michael Whan was named commissioner. Total purse is at an all-time high, and the tournament schedule is as packed as ever.

 

http://www.lpga.com/news/2017-lpga-schedule-announcement

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The LPGA seems to take two steps forward and one step back, then takes one step forward and three steps back. They can't get out of their own way at times.

 

What do you base this on? In business terms the LPGA seems to have been growing since Michael Whan was named commissioner. Total purse is at an all-time high, and the tournament schedule is as packed as ever.

 

http://www.lpga.com/...le-announcement

 

You are only comparing it to its previous self. If you had a very mediocre business that performed the same type of business as [for example] the PGA, NFL, Pro-Tennis, Amazon, Toyota, Exxon, Apple, Starbucks, etc. - and you increased your purse or your schedule or your sales or your paying customer/clients by a significant amount (say 15%), you would still be considered mediocre compared to other elite businesses in your same business category. The LPGA talking-heads can tout their improvement and growth and pat themselves on their own back all they want about their increase in purses or their packed schedule, but the truth of the matter is the LPGA is way (WAY) behind where they could be...and should be. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to know that...

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Why do you feel so strongly about this issue......What do you feel will be so terrible about the outcome of this?

 

I would not say that I feel 'strongly' about this issue, but I do find it more than just a little bit interesting. I hate to see any professional 'association' (like the LPGA) shoot themselves in the foot and do damage to themselves.

 

The LPGA seems to take two steps forward and one step back, then takes one step forward and three steps back. They can't get out of their own way at times. In my opinion, and obviously in the opinion of a significant number of both LPGA players and fans (as well as the non-golf public), this new dress code was not necessary and was handled in a very poor way - meaning (if necessary) it should have been dealt with on an individual one-on-one basis, and in a private manner. Once again, the LPGA has shown everyone how they continue to keep tripping all over themselves. And, I do not think that I am the only one that thinks this...

 

Maybe it will be handled in a private manner going forward if someone breaks the rule, we don't know yet. The players have to be told about the new rule before it can be enforced. That was done via email to all the players.

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The LPGA seems to take two steps forward and one step back, then takes one step forward and three steps back. They can't get out of their own way at times.

 

What do you base this on? In business terms the LPGA seems to have been growing since Michael Whan was named commissioner. Total purse is at an all-time high, and the tournament schedule is as packed as ever.

 

http://www.lpga.com/...le-announcement

 

You are only comparing it to its previous self. If you had a very mediocre business that performed the same type of business as [for example] the PGA, NFL, Pro-Tennis, Amazon, Toyota, Exxon, Apple, Starbucks, etc. - and you increased your purse or your schedule or your sales or your paying customer/clients by a significant amount (say 15%), you would still be considered mediocre compared to other elite businesses in your same business category. The LPGA talking-heads can tout their improvement and growth and pat themselves on their own back all they want about their increase in purses or their packed schedule, but the truth of the matter is the LPGA is way (WAY) behind where they could be...and should be. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to know that...

Comparing to the same type of business they are doing quite well as compared to the LET or KLPGA. You should not compare the women to the PGA as a same type any more than you can really compare the NFL to Arena league(or whatever it's called now). If you do a poor comparison the LPGA seems to be growing. Is the PGA?

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