Stricter Dress Code Coming For LPGA

[BLLDWG23]

Looking back since Annika's Last in 2006. You have 4 US winners 7 Korean Winners. A fairly steady decline until 2010 which is Paula's win, then flat/decline til Michelle's win in 2014 which is the biggest bump post Paula. Then another slight bump with Lang winning in 2016.

[BLLDWG23]

If one gets hardcore enough into golf, the nationalities of players ceases to matter. That's my experience at least. I'm there to watch how people play golf, if a player shares my nationality it hardly does anything for me. Some of my least favorites on the LPGA are my own countrywomen LOL. My favorite player right now is Sung Hyun Park who would probably consider me a obnoxious d-bag American and not worth her time. What can I say I like the way she swings and her quiet mysterious persona. I get it though, I'm the weird one. Feel sorry for all you die-hard American LPGA player fans these days. Hard times.

 

I agree but remember you make up probably %10 or less of the golf viewing public. The casual golf watcher in the States doesn't know who most of the Asian players are of cares to know. Not saying it's right it's just what it is. We got to remember the WRX community is not most golfers. It' probably not %10 of golfers on knowledge, skill, etc. Most golf viewers probably couldn't tell you what putter Spieth uses, most "educated viewers" would tell you a scotty cameron, only a handful could tell you a cameron 009.

 

That's why you have some given the choice of am I gonna watch one of these 7 Koreans I've never heard of play golf or watch Steph Curry, Romo, Blair O'neil, and Barkely hack around a golf ball they are gonna choose the latter.

[Shilgy]

 

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

[legitimategolf]

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

 

Back off man, she's North American. Good enough for me!

[Shilgy]

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

 

Back off man, she's North American. Good enough for me!

Kinda my point though. On the PGA tour we do not have a problem with Rory, Scott, Stenson, Sergio, Rahm, Day..... Only three of the top 10 are North Americans. Never heard a bad word about Matsuyama, Kim, Hahn(yes I know he is American), Na(same thing). So are we expecting the LPGA to set limits or is the competition open to all? Personally I want to see the best players compete and if the Americans want to compete they need to work more and worry about what someone is wearing less(getting back on topic) (that is not we want them wearing less-worry about it less). :)

[wobgon]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

[North Texas]

Is it possible that part of the reason people in the U.S. don't watch the LPGA is:

a. The best players on the LPGA tour are primarily from Korea?

b. The KLPGA tour ladies are far more stylish and attractive than the LPGA players?

c. The very few American players that are competitive on the LPGA tour hardly ever smile, usually seem unhappy, and have to have their A game to be middle of the pack with the Asian ladies?

 

Yeah, probably not...

 

So to fix these problems you modify the dress code?

 

You really think that's why they modified the dress code?

[BLLDWG23]

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

 

It's not an American name but to the casual American golf fan it a lot more recognizable, than

Park, Sung-Hyun, Choi, Hye Jin, Hur, M.J., Ryu, So-Yeon.

 

We have to remember the audience we talking about. Joe 18HC from Ohio that likes golf, watches it on TV and plays the local almost weekly. They recognize Paula, Lexi, Brooke, Etc. cause they see them on commercials. Most probably don't know Brooke is even Canadian. That is the lump of golf viewership, not the WRX'er that knows what the average LPGA driving distance is. We have to remember that we our the outliers not the norm.

[ThinkingPlus]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

There did not seem to be any issues in Scotland. However based on opinions frequently expressed in this thread I doubt many men were watching. ;)

[North Texas]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

This.

 

Has been blown completely out of proportion here on Golfwrx. Shocker!

[legitimategolf]

If one gets hardcore enough into golf, the nationalities of players ceases to matter. That's my experience at least. I'm there to watch how people play golf, if a player shares my nationality it hardly does anything for me. Some of my least favorites on the LPGA are my own countrywomen LOL. My favorite player right now is Sung Hyun Park who would probably consider me a obnoxious d-bag American and not worth her time. What can I say I like the way she swings and her quiet mysterious persona. I get it though, I'm the weird one. Feel sorry for all you die-hard American LPGA player fans these days. Hard times.

 

I agree but remember you make up probably %10 or less of the golf viewing public. The casual golf watcher in the States doesn't know who most of the Asian players are of cares to know. Not saying it's right it's just what it is. We got to remember the WRX community is not most golfers. It' probably not %10 of golfers on knowledge, skill, etc. Most golf viewers probably couldn't tell you what putter Spieth uses, most "educated viewers" would tell you a scotty cameron, only a handful could tell you a cameron 009.

 

That's why you have some given the choice of am I gonna watch one of these 7 Koreans I've never heard of play golf or watch Steph Curry, Romo, Blair O'neil, and Barkely hack around a golf ball they are gonna choose the latter.

 

 

It's funny how the golf community is continually expected to bend over backwards to accommodate the masses who know barely anything about golf and are borderline uninterested in either playing or watching. "How can we refashion the game to attract those people?" is a common type of refrain. Well screw those people, is what I say!

[BLLDWG23]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

I doubt much will be seen on the LPGA from it, honesty. Might see some slight changes where the collar looks different etc. I think this was more of a let's get ahead of an issue than lets fix an issue.

[Shilgy]

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

 

It's not an American name but to the casual American golf fan it a lot more recognizable, than

Choi, Hye Jin, Ryu, So-Yeon.

 

We have to remember the audience we talking about. Joe 18HC from Ohio that likes golf, watches it on TV and plays the local almost weekly. They recognize Paula, Lexi, Brooke, Etc. cause they see them on commercials. Most probably don't know Brooke is even Canadian. That is the lump of golf viewership, not the WRX'er that knows what the average LPGA driving distance is. We have to remember that we our the outliers not the norm.

And you are assuming that the only audience that matters to the LPGA is the American TV audience. It is a worldwide tour with many of the sponsors non-American brands.

[BLLDWG23]

Lack of ratings probably had to do more with not having a player that 90% of the American golf audience knows of, or a name they can pronounce. Not bashing the Asian players but most of the general golf watching audience doesn't know them or care too. Right, wrong. or indifferent that's just viewership. Same with the guys no Spieth, Fowler, DJ etc. and the number typically drops, not as bad but it drops. If a few of the names on the leader board was Thompson, Henderson, Creamer, Korda, etc. The ratings would of been much better. If you ask most viewers that watch golf who the #1 female in the world is they probably don't know or would tell you Lydia Ko or Lexi. For them they turn on the TV see 8 Korean flags of the 10, and no American flag and the channel gets flipped. It is what it is.

When did Henderson become American? If it's name pronunciation would most have an issue with Olafia Kristinsdottir?

 

It's not an American name but to the casual American golf fan it a lot more recognizable, than

Choi, Hye Jin, Ryu, So-Yeon.

 

We have to remember the audience we talking about. Joe 18HC from Ohio that likes golf, watches it on TV and plays the local almost weekly. They recognize Paula, Lexi, Brooke, Etc. cause they see them on commercials. Most probably don't know Brooke is even Canadian. That is the lump of golf viewership, not the WRX'er that knows what the average LPGA driving distance is. We have to remember that we our the outliers not the norm.

And you are assuming that the only audience that matters to the LPGA is the American TV audience. It is a worldwide tour with many of the sponsors non-American brands.

 

No but we are looking at American viewership numbers. I'm sure if you look at the Asian numbers and markets it would look quite different, but I doubt that FOX USA really cares what the Asian market number was. Again it depends on what audience you are looking for. Like it or not right or wrong the LPGA does care about the American Audience a lot because, whether you agree with it or not the LPGA tour is looked at as the "American" tour just like the PGA tour. If the LPGA wants to get airtime on Saturday or Sunday on one of the networks they have to care about that audience or they will simply flip the channel. The die hards will watch it on whatever even if it's the KLPGA feed online but again your talking about the 10%ers at best.

[MadGolfer76]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

This.

 

Has been blown completely out of proportion here on Golfwrx. Shocker!

 

Hey, if we didn't do that, the Golf Channel announcers would have to come up with their own stuff. Nobody wants that, right?

[Strike Force]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

[JeffreySpicoli]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

[Argonne69]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

There did not seem to be any issues in Scotland. However based on opinions frequently expressed in this thread I doubt many men were watching. ;)

 

I dunno. Michelle's caddie wearing leggings could be considered a breach of good taste.

[ThinkingPlus]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

There did not seem to be any issues in Scotland. However based on opinions frequently expressed in this thread I doubt many men were watching. ;)

 

I dunno. Michelle's caddie wearing leggings could be considered a breach of good taste.

 

Yes, but so few guys watching who could be offended or... excited.

[North Texas]

Has anyone seen that this dress code has had any effect at all.........Not including Strike Force's hysteria of course.

 

There did not seem to be any issues in Scotland. However based on opinions frequently expressed in this thread I doubt many men were watching. ;)

 

I dunno. Michelle's caddie wearing leggings could be considered a breach of good taste.

 

If Michelle's caddie is a "he", there is no "could be" about it.

[North Texas]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

Is this just your opinion or do you have any actual facts to back up your statement?

[Strike Force]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

Is this just your opinion or do you have any actual facts to back up your statement?

 

It's not just my opinion - it is my opinion!

[Strike Force]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

[JeffreySpicoli]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

You've shown yourself in this thread to be hysterical and given to hyperbole. You, too, are overpaid and we are not even providing you any salary.

[North Texas]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

And he is overpaid why?

[Strike Force]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

You've shown yourself in this thread to be hysterical and given to hyperbole. You, too, are overpaid and we are not even providing you any salary.

 

Hysterical - not in the least. I actually think this stricter dress code, and how it was handled, is stupidly funny. I find the LPGA as merely a slow-motion train wreck deep in the countryside where few see it, and even fewer care.

[ebrasmus21]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

You've shown yourself in this thread to be hysterical and given to hyperbole. You, too, are overpaid and we are not even providing you any salary.

 

Hysterical - not in the least. I actually think this stricter dress code, and how it was handled, is stupidly funny. I find the LPGA as merely a slow-motion train wreck deep in the countryside where few see it, and even fewer care.

 

Savage.

[Strike Force]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

And he is overpaid why?

 

Do I really need to explain? When someone is doing an unsatisfactory job...whatever is being paid is too much.

[Bad9]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

And he is overpaid why?

 

Do I really need to explain? When someone is doing an unsatisfactory job...whatever is being paid is too much.

 

I doubt any of his employers(the LPGA players) would agree with your unsatisfactory assessment. Under his tenure there are 10+ more tournaments and an increase in prize money. Yup I bet they are pissed at that.

[JeffreySpicoli]

Face it - the executives at the LPGA that make decisions are lackluster...

 

So apply for the job. Let's see how you do.

 

If not, you're just another Monday morning quarterback in the peanut galllery.

 

The LPGA Tour Commissioner, Michael Whan, doesn't even make $1 million. And, I can see why! He's actually overpaid...

 

You've shown yourself in this thread to be hysterical and given to hyperbole. You, too, are overpaid and we are not even providing you any salary.

 

Hysterical - not in the least. I actually think this stricter dress code, and how it was handled, is stupidly funny. I find the LPGA as merely a slow-motion train wreck deep in the countryside where few see it, and even fewer care.

 

Ah, and you are the courageous prophet calling for those few that have ears to hear.