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They already make a wide sole wedge though. "Smart sole" I think it's called.

 

And that last pic posted by Joe sure looks like there's a cavity.

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Hopefully they will release a wedge with more traditional soles with some grind options. I love the v-sole in my 545's, and really wanted to like it in the RTX-3's but they just didn't work for me. Just not enough versatility for my game. As a raw wedge groupie, it really disappointed that the Cleveland wedges didn't work for me... we don't get a whole lot of raw releases, it sucks when they just aren't that great a fit (personally). Based on the lack of tour play versus older versions, I'd say that their tour staff agrees with the soles not being up to snuff.

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I recently won a contest on another forum where we will be heading to Cleveland HQ and meeting with employees of Cleveland and Srixon. We will be receiving a whole bag of prerelease clubs and get to play at Pelican Hill with the new equipment. Here's some chatter from around the rumor mill I thought I'd share.

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Just from what little I see in the picture, it reminds me of the Ping Glide 2.0 wedges.....

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If that is an actual picture of the new product, then it is a relatively small head (compare hosel to blade length) ... so my best guess would be a RTX 3.0 forged

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Could it be a custom shop type wedge?

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They are releasing a new CB model. Also look for Cleveland to come back to the States.

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They are not releasing a new blade version of the wedge just a new cavity back version. They are also releasing a new Cleveland line that will be aimed towards the game improvement player. At least this is what I have heard.

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My local Edwin Watts has had all the RTX 3 cavity backs marked down to $99 for several weeks, don't think they have sold well, but I think they have done a good deal of business with the regular version at the full retail price. I was playing the older version of the cavity backed until this year. My grooves were getting warn, so I wanted to upgrade, and just didn't like the bigger sized look of the new cavity backed ones. I tried the blade ones and really liked the look and feel, and went with a new 56 and 60 standard.

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TaylorMade Qi10 Tour 3 and 5 wood, Tensei AV Limited Blue 75

Matlby TS3 4-5, Matlby TS4 6-GW, Recoil Dart V 105 F4

RTX Zipcore  Tour Rack 54, 60

Spider Tour 35

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anypne have further insight into these?

anyone having issues with full shot yardage on the blades?

was there a documented problem with the existing rtx3 cb"s outside of not selling well?

 

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My attempt at guessing what Dunlop is moving towards:

 

Srixon: Players irons (965/765/565) and golf balls

Cleveland: GI and SGI (Altitude, and possible Srixon 355 replacement), wedges, and putters (no more 588 forged irons)

XXIO: premium GI/SGI

 

This strategy will take a couple cycles to play out. Cleveland may enter the iron market, though it will take another Srixon cycle for the products to align better. I hope the 565/5X5 line does not go away, though it might turn into a Cleveland brand offering.

 

Will be interesting to see what comes down the line.

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My attempt at guessing what Dunlop is moving towards:

 

Srixon: Players irons (965/765/565) and golf balls

Cleveland: GI and SGI (Altitude, and possible Srixon 355 replacement), wedges, and putters (no more 588 forged irons)

XXIO: premium GI/SGI

 

This strategy will take a couple cycles to play out. Cleveland may enter the iron market, though it will take another Srixon cycle for the products to align better. I hope the 565/5X5 line does not go away, though it might turn into a Cleveland brand offering.

 

Will be interesting to see what comes down the line.

This is a pretty good synopsis. Cleveland will also release a new line of woods that will be a lower price game improvement style.

 

There was not anything wrong with the performance of the CB model but I believe they are too close to the blade in feel and forgiveness. I have not seen them but the new CB model I would guess would be more game improvement.

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TM P7MC 5 - 8 w/ Project X LZ

TM P7MB 9 - PW w/ Project X LZ
TM MG 50 and 55 w/ Project X LZ

TM MG Hi-Toe 60 w/ Project X LZ
TM TP Balboa
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