New SM7's

[Brian2781]

This is interesting. I was fitted into a 54.08 M.

 

I was looking at the ATV sole next to the M and the toe looks similar but the heel in the ATV has much more material removed. It looks like the M grind has too much "meat" around the heel.

 

This wedge is perfect in every other situation. I can open the face and flop it, I can flight it low, good out of the rough, and love it from the fairway.

 

In the bunkers, it almost feels like I can't get it under the ball. It's not sticking or digging, rather it almost causes a full on skull.

 

It's like those flops off hardpan... If you are even a tiny bit off, skull city. It could be my technique... I open the face a lot, and almost try to flop it out of the bunkers... Maybe my AOA is too shallow?

 

I nearly always use my 60* M-grind Vokey out of greenside bunkers, and unless it's really buried I think my technique is typically to open it a little and take relatively little sand and just skim it out of there. That way the lower bounce doesn't dig too much, I get more spin, and it feels more comfortable to just control how far I fly it that way than figure out how much the club is going to dig/bounce or run out in various conditions.

 

I've never thought about it, but I imagine my angle of attack is a little steeper (which comes naturally to me), more v-shaped (or at least that's how I think about it), to make sure the club slides under and continues moving when the ball is coming out.

[Bye]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

[Ernie1060]

This is interesting. I was fitted into a 54.08 M.

 

I was looking at the ATV sole next to the M and the toe looks similar but the heel in the ATV has much more material removed. It looks like the M grind has too much "meat" around the heel.

 

This wedge is perfect in every other situation. I can open the face and flop it, I can flight it low, good out of the rough, and love it from the fairway.

 

In the bunkers, it almost feels like I can't get it under the ball. It's not sticking or digging, rather it almost causes a full on skull.

 

It's like those flops off hardpan... If you are even a tiny bit off, skull city. It could be my technique... I open the face a lot, and almost try to flop it out of the bunkers... Maybe my AOA is too shallow?

 

I nearly always use my 60* M-grind Vokey out of greenside bunkers, and unless it's really buried I think my technique is typically to open it a little and take relatively little sand and just skim it out of there. That way the lower bounce doesn't dig too much, I get more spin, and it feels more comfortable to just control how far I fly it that way than figure out how much the club is going to dig/bounce or run out in various conditions.

 

I've never thought about it, but I imagine my angle of attack is a little steeper (which comes naturally to me), more v-shaped (or at least that's how I think about it), to make sure the club slides under and continues moving when the ball is coming out.

All is well!!!

 

So the technique you described is exactly what I have done for as long as I can remember.

 

I went to the range and hit out of the bunker for for 20 min. Figured it out right away. I was coming in way too shallow and weight too far back.

 

Hit out of good lies, bad, hardpan, wet sand... Feeling confident once again!!!

[tigerfan23]

im now leaning towards the 60S instead of the D or M after seeing the grinds in person - looks like they took maybe a little more off the sole compared to last years S grind.

[dciccoritti]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

[uflorida1]

How does the V grind compare to the high bounce M and to the D grind? Does anyone have a good comparison of the three. Thanks!

[PappyVanWinkle53]

The M is the most versatile and great from all over. Just not so automatic from the bunkers.

Did you figure out why?

 

I went to the 58.08m from the TM EF groove Tp 58 w/ the ATV grind.

 

In the bunker the new wedge feels like it gets kicked up into the ball and it comes out much faster, farther, and no spin...

 

I've always opened up the face, and hit high soft bunker shots that have very little release...

 

Is my technique off?

 

Having never seen your swing, it's hard to answer that question. However, as a previous M grind owner, I'll throw out a guess as to what may be going on. There's not a ton of bounce on your new wedge, and the M grind has so much material removed from the sole on both the heel and toe (heel/toe relief)....this combo makes it great for opening the face around the green and nipping the ball from tight lies; however, even with the club face open, it does not have a ton of bounce and has a tendency to "stick" a bit in the sand (especially if it's very soft sand) rather than passing thru the sand and allowing the club to impart spin....as a result, your ball shoots out at a bit lower trajectory with way less spin, and it runs past the hole. You were probably getting better results in the sand from your ATV because, even thought that club has a bit of heel relief, it presents a bit more bounce when the club face is open than the M grind does. A general rule is that bounce is your friend in the bunker (except hardpan). It's probably superb around the green, but it could be that this isn't the best wedge for you in the sand. Do you have a 54 or 56 w/ 12-14 degrees of bounce?

 

This is interesting. I was fitted into a 54.08 M.

 

I was looking at the ATV sole next to the M and the toe looks similar but the heel in the ATV has much more material removed. It looks like the M grind has too much "meat" around the heel.

 

This wedge is perfect in every other situation. I can open the face and flop it, I can flight it low, good out of the rough, and love it from the fairway.

 

In the bunkers, it almost feels like I can't get it under the ball. It's not sticking or digging, rather it almost causes a full on skull.

 

It's like those flops off hardpan... If you are even a tiny bit off, skull city. It could be my technique... I open the face a lot, and almost try to flop it out of the bunkers... Maybe my AOA is too shallow?

 

Probably not an issue with the bounce then....likely a technique problem. How deeply do you dig your feet into the sand on a bunker shot?? Doing so can help you bottom out the club underneath the ball a bit more. Another thing I think of if I'm struggling in the bunker.....pretend the ball is sitting on a tee (with the tee just under the sand) and try to sweep the tee out from under the ball without hitting the ball. Again, I haven't seen your swing, so if these are things you are already doing and are still struggling, I recommend getting a lesson and spending an hour in the bunker w/ a teaching pro. Good luck!

[Bye]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

Thanks for this, I was really surprised and disappointed when I saw the finishes, the grey/gun metal finish has always been the best Imo. The top line on the 60 in particular looked really thick.

 

I won’t be rushing out to look at them.

[SAM_PGA]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

Thanks for this, I was really surprised and disappointed when I saw the finishes, the grey/gun metal finish has always been the best Imo. The top line on the 60 in particular looked really thick.

 

I won’t be rushing out to look at them.

I too noticed the thickness of the 58/60º wedges, but only when I'm holding them to my face... When in playing position I do not notice the thickness of the topline. I believe it would be much more noticeable on stronger lofts but that would contradict the design of the progressive center of gravity.

[Therealpatgiles]

Looking for reviews of players using a D grind. I'm hearing its a K style wedge but with the L grind to open up. Has anyone compared the two or even to a M grind?

I was fitted for a D grind 60. It's similar to the Nike dual sole engage wedges

[JoeJoeJoeUrBoat]

Just ordered today via my club pro. Went all jet black with PX 6.0 rifle shafts and yellow multi compound grips. Cause I’m a McIlroy fan through thick and thin!

 

46.10.F

50.08.F

54.10.S

58.08.M

 

Wedges are the best part of my game, loving having versatility at the bottom of the bag.

 

Should have them before the end of next week along with my 4-9 718 AP2s. Excited is an understatement.

 

Wait, I thought you had re-ordered some P790s. Why the switch to AP2s?

 

Ask kgeorge78, he's the one that changed my mind lol!

 

Just better overall numbers with the AP2s. More spin with a bit less distance but better front to back dispersion. Cuts through the rough a bit easier as well, which is where I spend most of my time when I start spraying it with the big stick.

[danielryanw]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

I disagree with pretty much all of this lol

Loved the murdered out look of the black

They look great in person. I like my 6s but the 7s have a smoother look to them.

I do like the steel gray, wish they would’ve kept it.

I couldn’t care less what font/lettering/etc is on the toe.

Can’t wait to game em.

[MarkFromTheUK]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

All 6 points are about aesthetics. Any points on performance?

[Lord Helmet]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

All 6 points are about aesthetics. Any points on performance?

 

Good question - but a club has to pass the look test too doesnt it? Maybe not for some - but it definitely applies to me.

 

Regarding the head size question I posed earlier - I hit some balls and stopped in the shop to look at the sm7 up against my sm5. They really didnt look all that different side by side. Grabbed a sm6 and it looked microscopic compared to my 5. Same loft, grind. Weird. I stayed away from the sm6 due to the looks - but I could bag the 7s if I wanted.

[MarkFromTheUK]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

All 6 points are about aesthetics. Any points on performance?

 

Good question - but a club has to pass the look test too doesnt it? Maybe not for some - but it definitely applies to me.

 

Regarding the head size question I posed earlier - I hit some balls and stopped in the shop to look at the sm7 up against my sm5. They really didnt look all that different side by side. Grabbed a sm6 and it looked microscopic compared to my 5. Same loft, grind. Weird. I stayed away from the sm6 due to the looks - but I could bag the 7s if I wanted.

 

Looks are certainly important, but it’s not the be all and end all. If a club performs, and I can bare to look at it, it will go in my bag. That’s why the pig ugly Ping G Crossover stayed in my bag for a couple of years.

 

These are the first Vokeys that I have ever liked the look of. In fact, I think they’re the best looking wedges since the Callaway X Forged Vintage c-grind wedges.

[Lord Helmet]

I have not seen them in the flesh yet but I’m not overly excited about the SM7’s. The D grind looks interesting but other than that...

 

Shiels mentioned the finishes in his review, the chrome being the only one that didn’t look terrible after a few hits. Has anyone else found this?

 

I just saw these a few days ago. Did a bit of chipping with them and in my opinion:

 

1. I don't like the black finish at all (although good for those that want to strip them raw)

2. Brushed steel looks awful. Liked the SM6 steel grey much better

3. Chrome is good but a little too dull for my liking. (I have no issues with glare)

4. Colour scheme (paint fill) is a very blah.

5. Don't like bounce, grind and loft all squashed together on the toe.

6. They look BULKY!! Top line looks very thick and IMO the wedge is starting to look clunky.

 

I'm a big fan of Vokey wedges but I'm just not crazy about this release in terms of looks. Enough with the positioning of the COG. They're wedges. I can flight them myself thank you very much.

 

I'm probably being a bit harsh but those are my first impressions.

 

All 6 points are about aesthetics. Any points on performance?

 

Good question - but a club has to pass the look test too doesnt it? Maybe not for some - but it definitely applies to me.

 

Regarding the head size question I posed earlier - I hit some balls and stopped in the shop to look at the sm7 up against my sm5. They really didnt look all that different side by side. Grabbed a sm6 and it looked microscopic compared to my 5. Same loft, grind. Weird. I stayed away from the sm6 due to the looks - but I could bag the 7s if I wanted.

 

Looks are certainly important, but it’s not the be all and end all. If a club performs, and I can bare to look at it, it will go in my bag. That’s why the pig ugly Ping G Crossover stayed in my bag for a couple of years.

 

These are the first Vokeys that I have ever liked the look of. In fact, I think they’re the best looking wedges since the Callaway X Forged Vintage c-grind wedges.

 

Totally understand that!

 

I sure do miss the x forged wedges. Ugh...

[Bye]

I just don’t understand why they have gone to the brushed steel finish. They are going to look dreadful after a couple of rounds.

 

 

[MarkFromTheUK]

Thanks Bob.

 

 

 

A few days ago someone on here asked what bounce/grind option I went for. I didn’t answer, as to be perfectly honest, I couldn’t remember what I ordered. Sorry about that.

 

Anyway, I went for 52/08/F, 58/12/D, 62/08/M

[Lpgfortier]

Hey Mark!

 

Very intriguing wedge split! What made you go for that set up? I thought about something like that also, but was not sure. As a fellow left, I’m curious! Thanks mate

[MarkFromTheUK]

Hey Mark!

 

Very intriguing wedge split! What made you go for that set up? I thought about something like that also, but was not sure. As a fellow left, I’m curious! Thanks mate

 

Numbers mainly. I used to go 52, 58, 64, but found the 62 so easy to open up that it seemed sensible to go with it and sack the 64.

[Derek666]

Thats black on black murdered out look is nice congrats im sure you'll enjoy those

[valmario]

i picked up 50F and 54S yesterday in the black finish yesterday... i was going to pick up the 60L... but it been years since i haven't had an EYE 2 L or S in the bag and my sentimental side got the best of me

[Pulric1]

Is everyone just getting a D grind cause it's a new offering? I've literally never seen anyone that plays it on tour or anyone that I know from web/mini's.

[Therealpatgiles]

Is everyone just getting a D grind cause it's a new offering? I've literally never seen anyone that plays it on tour or anyone that I know from web/mini's.

it's extremely versatile.

[BearQ]

Is everyone just getting a D grind cause it's a new offering? I've literally never seen anyone that plays it on tour or anyone that I know from web/mini's.

 

Supposedly it’s very popular on tour has players had their k grinds hand worked to become what is now known as the D

[Pulric1]

Is everyone just getting a D grind cause it's a new offering? I've literally never seen anyone that plays it on tour or anyone that I know from web/mini's.

 

Supposedly it's very popular on tour has players had their k grinds hand worked to become what is now known as the D

 

They've had a mold for high bounce M's for a long time and I don't see it used very often. I've seen a lot K's modified, but not to turn into an M grind like the D. Yes I know it's soooooo versatile...

 

I feel like it's another smart marketing technique like raising their prices 20% so guys can say more jokes about having the D.

[lefty74pgh]

Is there a difference between the D grind and the SM4 58.12 M grind?

[odshot68]

Can you flop a D off tighter lies like you can with a L grind? Is the D grind similar to a M grind on flop shots?

[Derek666]

It does look like a decent grind, M grind with more heel and toe relief.

 

[Pulric1]

Can you flop a D off tighter lies like you can with a L grind? Is the D grind similar to a M grind on flop shots?

 

I've always had an L because I can't get under the ball on really firm lies with M even. The D is the highest in the progression. All three are essentially the same grind just with different levels of bounce. (That was what the fitter at TPI told me atleast)