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I hate being "that guy" right now with this topic, but I'm placing the blame on GolfWRX for helping turn me into him.

 

Nevertheless, has anyone had a chance to compare the measurable of these golf clubs. Feel and all that jazz is subjective. Numbers are never the same for two people. I am more or less looking for head size, blade length, top line thickness, and MOST IMPORTANTLY offset of each.

 

I think all three OEMs should be commended as they all did a very nice job crafting their respective irons.

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I've hit the 18's and seen the 718. Still waiting on the 730's, but based on the 750's the 730's have a chance. How they feel and look at address will decide. I love the mp 18's. They look great and feel great. Pretty much everything you look for in a blade. The 718's are pretty, but I don't anticipate much difference from the 716 and 714 before them. Slightly more offset than I like and I expect them to feel the same. A bit harsher than Mizuno.

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MP59 = Titanium in cavity, not tungsten

no man, it says "Tu Muscle" right on the back of the golf club! :haha:

 

Whatever it is, it works. I remember many mocked the MP59 when it came out for use of multi-materials in the MP line, but it enhances the club to me and I liked the MP15 too. So MP18 MMC, at least in the long irons, is what I am thinking. But I want to hit the SC first all the way through to see how I do.

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MP59 = Titanium in cavity, not tungsten

no man, it says "Tu Muscle" right on the back of the golf club! :haha:

 

Whatever it is, it works. I remember many mocked the MP59 when it came out for use of multi-materials in the MP line, but it enhances the club to me and I liked the MP15 too. So MP18 MMC, at least in the long irons, is what I am thinking. But I want to hit the SC first all the way through to see how I do.

 

I didn't really like the feel of the 59, and the 15's weren't much better. Wasn't bad, just wasn't what I was used to from Mizuno. The MMC's though actually felt good, and they were the longest for me. Even longer than the Fli Hi.

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I've hit the 18's and seen the 718. Still waiting on the 730's, but based on the 750's the 730's have a chance. How they feel and look at address will decide. I love the mp 18's. They look great and feel great. Pretty much everything you look for in a blade. The 718's are pretty, but I don't anticipate much difference from the 716 and 714 before them. Slightly more offset than I like and I expect them to feel the same. A bit harsher than Mizuno.

Oh wow, the 718s have more offset than the MP-18s? I know the Titleist MBs of old had a decent amount, but for some reason this years looked drastically reduced. Please report back once you get your hands on the 718s and P730s.

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I've hit the 18's and seen the 718. Still waiting on the 730's, but based on the 750's the 730's have a chance. How they feel and look at address will decide. I love the mp 18's. They look great and feel great. Pretty much everything you look for in a blade. The 718's are pretty, but I don't anticipate much difference from the 716 and 714 before them. Slightly more offset than I like and I expect them to feel the same. A bit harsher than Mizuno.

Oh wow, the 718s have more offset than the MP-18s? I know the Titleist MBs of old had a decent amount, but for some reason this years looked drastically reduced. Please report back once you get your hands on the 718s and P730s.

 

I don't know the exact specs, but I'm almost positive. I didn't hold the side by side, but I noticed the reduced offset on the mizuno immediately. Noticeably less than my mom 4's. As someone who craves a modern 681 with constant offset at .081 or similar, it's one of the first things I notice. Titleist may have tried to make it look like less offset, but the 18's are lower offset for sure. I'm hoping the 730's are the same or even less.

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I've hit the 18's and seen the 718. Still waiting on the 730's, but based on the 750's the 730's have a chance. How they feel and look at address will decide. I love the mp 18's. They look great and feel great. Pretty much everything you look for in a blade. The 718's are pretty, but I don't anticipate much difference from the 716 and 714 before them. Slightly more offset than I like and I expect them to feel the same. A bit harsher than Mizuno.

Oh wow, the 718s have more offset than the MP-18s? I know the Titleist MBs of old had a decent amount, but for some reason this years looked drastically reduced. Please report back once you get your hands on the 718s and P730s.

 

I don't know the exact specs, but I'm almost positive. I didn't hold the side by side, but I noticed the reduced offset on the mizuno immediately. Noticeably less than my mom 4's. As someone who craves a modern 681 with constant offset at .081 or similar, it's one of the first things I notice. Titleist may have tried to make it look like less offset, but the 18's are lower offset for sure. I'm hoping the 730's are the same or even less.

Glad to hear. I am in the same boat as you offset wise. Was one or the other shorter in length heel-toe?

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I didn't see them side by side, so not real sure on that. Neither seemed abnormally long though.

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EDIT: Have specs for all 3 now. Still curious to know which of the 3 have the shortest blade length.

 

That being said, the P730s are really attractive in every way to me. Still a tip of the cap to all 3 OEM's on putting out a great product this cycle.

 

P730s

 

 

MP-18

 

 

718 MB

 

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Stilll missing OEM released specs for 718 MBs, but based on DeCuchi's comments above I am assuming this means MP-18s may win the battle of reduced offset. Would be curious to know which of the 3 of the shortest blade length.

 

P730s

 

 

MP-18

 

 

Actually TM wins. 2.1mm converts to .082! Here's to hoping the feel is there. Might be my first TM iron since the bubble shaft days. As long as the price isn't crazy. I think Mizuno wins there.

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Stilll missing OEM released specs for 718 MBs, but based on DeCuchi's comments above I am assuming this means MP-18s may win the battle of reduced offset. Would be curious to know which of the 3 of the shortest blade length.

 

P730s

 

 

MP-18

 

 

Actually TM wins. 2.1mm converts to .082! Here's to hoping the feel is there. Might be my first TM iron since the bubble shaft days. As long as the price isn't crazy. I think Mizuno wins there.

Oh man how stupid am I, I didn't even look at the metric of measurement haha. Thanks DeCuchi for catching that.

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Stilll missing OEM released specs for 718 MBs, but based on DeCuchi's comments above I am assuming this means MP-18s may win the battle of reduced offset. Would be curious to know which of the 3 of the shortest blade length.

 

P730s

 

 

MP-18

 

 

Actually TM wins. 2.1mm converts to .082! Here's to hoping the feel is there. Might be my first TM iron since the bubble shaft days. As long as the price isn't crazy. I think Mizuno wins there.

Oh man how stupid am I, I didn't even look at the metric of measurement haha. Thanks DeCuchi for catching that.

 

Actually if you bend the Mizuno irons 1° weak the offsets and lofts will be almost identical.

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You can't just go on the measurements for offset. You can have two clubs with identical offset numbers that look different based on the shaping and transition from the hosel to the leading edge. One of those things where each person is going to have to see them to decide.

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MP59 = Titanium in cavity, not tungsten
no man, it says "Tu Muscle" right on the back of the golf club! :haha:

 

Did you mean "W muscle"? I'm not sure what periodic table you're looking at.

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MP59 = Titanium in cavity, not tungsten

no man, it says "Tu Muscle" right on the back of the golf club! :haha:

 

Nope it says TI muscle on the back. I don't know how to upload a picture or I would. I still game these

GStew1930, welcome to the WRX forum and all the best wishes to you down in Houston.

Just for your info, my post on this thread was all in jest. You'll witness a lot of needling here on WRX. You should come to recognize it. Usually the "emoticons" being added to a post as the give away! :D

So as for your MP59 ''upload'' request, let me provide it...

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MP59 = Titanium in cavity, not tungsten

no man, it says "Tu Muscle" right on the back of the golf club! :haha:

 

Nope it says TI muscle on the back. I don't know how to upload a picture or I would. I still game these

GStew1930, welcome to the WRX forum and all the best wishes to you down in Houston.

Just for your info, my post on this thread was all in jest. You'll witness a lot of needling here on WRX. You should come to recognize it. Usually the "emoticons" being added to a post as the give away!

So as for your MP59 ''upload'' request, let me provide it...

11659112-mizuno-mp-59-irons.jpg

 

Thank you very much for your wishes, and sorry if I came off the wrong way I wasn't trying to be negative. I'm still learning how all this works. I wasn't trying to come off as an a** I was just trying to help clear the air. I usually keep things short and sweet and it can come off the wrong way

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Hit the mp 18's and they felt fantastic. Actually hit them better than the mmc. I'd love to try them against the pp730's. The finish on the mp 18 wins out between those two but I could live with the chrome. I actually may buy the Japanese version of the mizuno pro 118, they look incredible.

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Yea, that's about what I expected.

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Yea, that's about what I expected.

Nice find. Seems on par with previous releases. I suspect for the consumer not driven by minimal offset any of these 3 would be fantastic. All 3 certainly look beautiful. Personally, my eye and brain are both drawn to the P730's.

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Its a muscleback......the difference between them is a personal decision, performance between mb irons is nothing, only slight subtleties the user prefers......

 

unless you just want what everyone else wants, or the most popular

 

Performance is nil

 

If your shopping in this category every blade player should do his due diligence and look at them in person....take the time!

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Its a muscleback......the difference between them is a personal decision, performance between mb irons is nothing, only slight subtleties the user prefers......

 

unless you just want what everyone else wants, or the most popular

 

Performance is nil

 

If your shopping in this category every blade player should do his due diligence and look at them in person....take the time!

I agree 100% with what you said, which is why if you read the very first post it was stated the discussion was to be had about the measurables of each. Essentially helping those who are not able to see all 3 in person understand those subtitles you mentioned.

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Also new to WRX, pretty exciting. I have been loyal to Titleist for some time, full bag basically.

 

Saw the MP 18 line, I loved the looks. Hit speed dial to local Golftown, got fit for them! Very nice clubs! I got a split set of the split cavity and blades.

 

The feel is great, looks amazing too. Two big check marks in my book. Also, the shaft selection is free. No upcharges.

 

I didn't hit the new 718 MB because the MP18's had me at hello.

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