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So I just heard from a local fitter that Callaway are making the apex mb "raw" version available for leftys 2018 in Sweden. Huge fan of the look you get with a raw finish. But since they does not come cheap and I will use them for some years (I hope so atleast). How will the raw finish/ rust affect the life cycle compared to a forged non-raw finish??

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Just updating this. Played 27 holes today. First 9 with Apex MB Raw, second with MP20, third with MB raw again. It's soft as all hell up here in Canada right now. Cold and lots of rain. Maybe it's the

This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).

[size=3]2020 WITB[/size]
[size=3]Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero 10.5* - Aldila Rogue Max 75x[/size]
[size=3]3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x[/size]
[size=3]2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted[/size]
[size=3]52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]Putter: Odyssey Sabertooth[/size]

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Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?

[i][b]In the Bag:[/b][/i]
Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
Hybrid: Cobra F7
Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130

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This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).

Thats interesting, so you feel like the groves stays sharper longer than non-raws? But refinish that's for looks only, I am right? If they got atleast the same life time as non-raws, Im all over these!

 

Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?

No idea. Weird if they were offered in europe but not the US?

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Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.

[i][b]In the Bag:[/b][/i]
Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
Hybrid: Cobra F7
Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130

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Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.

 

 

This was a question that I asked in the Callaway Live Chat thread. Basically they aren't offering it in the US right now and there was more of a demand for it overseas. I really don't see how but surely we will see them at some point.

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Great, good to know, thanks for the information. I love the look of those MBs, regardless, but the raw would be a nice option if I pull the trigger.

 

[i][b]In the Bag:[/b][/i]
Driver - Titleist 915 D2 - Tensei White CK Pro Mitsubishi Rayon 70S, 45"
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 13.5 Rogue 75S
Irons: 4 - PW Callaway Apex MBs 2018 - DG TI 120 S400 +1"
3 Cobra Iron Utility Black with KBS $120 Shaft +1"
PW: Vokey 7M 46,52 (both F grind),60 (M grind) degree. SW: Ping I10
Hybrid: Cobra F7
Putter: TP Mills High Toe ONE or TP Mills Bull Elf
Ball: Pro V or Bridgestone RSX
Bag: 2018 Sun Mountain C-130

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having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"

 

MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.

 

I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.

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I asked a similar question in the live chat too, I went unanswered though.

 

Seriously though...

 

Legacy Black Stenson's (Japan)

1st Gen Epic Star Driver & Fairways (Japan)

Epic Forged Driver (Japan)

Apex MB Raw (Europe)

 

What am I missing here, Callaway?

 

Bonded Drivers and RAW Clubheads .... I gotta live outside the states to get them?

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having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"

 

MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.

 

I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.

 

I think it was Nike who had the blue wax "headcovers" on it's Raw Wedges? ... Maybe it was Mizuno ... I forget, but I thought that was a really, really, good idea. Prevents the pre-purchase rust and protects from dings and dents as an added bonus. I understand it's probably a costly proposition to major OEM's, but I think a guy in the market to buy Raw Wedges, doesn't have an issue paying a couple extra bucks for the post production, pre sale, waxing process.

 

JMO.

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Raw finish is the best for irons and wedges in my opinion.

 

Chrome is a clean look, but chrome will wear over time anyway.

 

There is nothing like the feel of a raw wedge or iron. Any plating on metal will make the head feel harder.

 

Raw irons are easier to work with asthetically. You can sand blast them, polish them, rust them, hand sand them, etc. You can do a rich black oxide, a rusty oil can patina, torch finish, polish to a natural silver metal finish. You cant do any of that with chrome plated finish.

 

Raw is best!

 

 

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Damn. Crazy.

 

Foreign Callaway beating up on Domestic Callaway ....

 

Just my two cents.

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When the raw MB is released in Europe how can we get our hands on them in the States? Is there a website like TourSpec for Europe?

[size=3]2020 WITB[/size]
[size=3]Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero 10.5* - Aldila Rogue Max 75x[/size]
[size=3]3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x[/size]
[size=3]2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted[/size]
[size=3]52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]Putter: Odyssey Sabertooth[/size]

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Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:

 

http://uk.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/iron-sets/irons-2018-apex-mb-oil-finish.html

 

Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.

[size=3]2020 WITB[/size]
[size=3]Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero 10.5* - Aldila Rogue Max 75x[/size]
[size=3]3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x[/size]
[size=3]2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted[/size]
[size=3]52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]Putter: Odyssey Sabertooth[/size]

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Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:

 

http://uk.callawaygo...oil-finish.html

 

Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.

 

Best advice is to find a friend to ship you a set thats the best bet vs, trying to buy online. I'm sure there's a GolfWRX friend who would be happy to help.

 

On a side note, I know I would prefer the raw over chrome.

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Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn't the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?

Its an interesting thought. But I agree.......the answer is no. I'd say over 50% or more of the PGA tour players use raw wedges. Enough said there.

[size=3]2020 WITB[/size]
[size=3]Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero 10.5* - Aldila Rogue Max 75x[/size]
[size=3]3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* - Aldila Rogue Max 85x[/size]
[size=3]2-PW: Callaway X-Prototype MBs - Project X 6.5 flighted[/size]
[size=3]52* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]58* Wedge: Callaway MD2 Slate S Grind[/size]
[size=3]Putter: Odyssey Sabertooth[/size]

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Wait!

 

So that's in the US?

 

EDIT ... So yes, my answer to my question is yes. Lol. Read little further, Goof.

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Callaway Apex 3H Speeder 904X
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Miura HG 5210 iSeries Proto 105X
Miura HG 5810 iSeries Proto 105X
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