Single Length Updates (post'em up!)

[boggyman]

9s hands down, due to the fact I custom ordered the ones with the 5.5s, 1/2 inch short, with OS GP grips. The stiff graphite’s are going head to head this week with them while we are down here in Florida. Although, for some reason the 8 head shake is more appealing to my eye, I’d pick the 9s, hands down. Have 4-SW in both sets. Love ‘em.

[Tax77]

Thanks, that's along the line I was thinking, cut down to 36.75 I think would be way more comfy for me that fidgeting with gripping down every time I'm digging into the middle of my bag. F9 is decently priced right now since the release of speedzone. Think I'll pull the trigger before spring and go half and half SL/VL.

[boggyman]

Cobras customer service is top notch. The 9s were marked down several AFTER mine were ordered, and Cobra honored the sale price. Hats off to Cobra for that!!

[ttttttt1432]

Anyone have more info on why Sterling and Wishon are ending their SL partnership?

[toolman]

First round out with my one lengths today. Picked up a 4-pw cobra forged set. I must say I’m pretty surprised by the results. The short irons especially the PW was very fun to hit. I’d say it went about just as far as my normal distances...maybe a few yards more...but wow like super high...the pw was dead straight. I normally hit about 44% of greens today I hit 50% but a few shots were on the fridge. I was super happy with the long irons as well...the 5 was just as high as my normal 5 iron and the distance was on point. 195 in and hit my 5 iron pin high. However I will say you have to commit to the swing, if I backed off at all from a normal swing the ball would have the tendency to move to the right. Anyway I’m happy with this new adventure! 4 birdies today!

[ChaosTheory]

I'm back to SL again, using a combo of Pinhawk Vertex 6-AW, and a Pinhawk 5H, all at 37 inches.

The hybrid is so good that I'm going to get a 4H as well. By good I mean that it still goes nice and high, and the right distance, and being so short I can put a very confident swing on it. I'm a slow swinger at 75 MPH, so the 4H might be marginal height wise, but at least might be good for tight lay ups and greens that can be run up onto. I bet it will be fine off a tee, too.

The Vertexes go high and straight. They are very much SGI irons. The 6 iron is a hotter face, hollow body, and it performs as such. Nice and high. I adjusted the lofts to be as follows: 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, 48. They might change after I really figure out my gaps. But they are close, if not already good. I bought the sand wedge but haven't built it because the AW is presently going too high and coming up short. (And I have decent mechanics.) That's mostly why I bent it from 50 to 48 and adjusted the others accordingly. I also tipped the shaft (SK Fiber TT75R) to the max, beyond max actually. Still the same issue. Right now I'm trying to figure out a good substitute for the AW. I might just buy a regular wedge instead. I play two MD2's right now, 54 bent to 53, and 58. I could get a 50 and bend it to 48 and be happy.

But I do love the one club benefit of SL, and I think I should be able to find a gap wedge that does better. And maybe even a 53 degree as well. I like the easy height of the Vertexes, and might combo up some regular Pinhawks for the wedges, I dunno. In a perfect world I would get some Cobra OL wedges and add weight, I guess. (They are 10g lighter than the Vertexes.) Trying not to spend that kind of money on speculation, lol.

[ottrad1]

so I've played Edel SLS-01 for a couple of years and really like the heads and Paderson shafts. My experience with SL has been good and I believe has helped stabilize my often over the top casting swing. I'm now a 9 index. My only problem has been with the upper irons and wind. Physics apparently dictates the diminished length 4-5 irons will have less peak height and the extended length 8- 9-PW-GW go really high. It's great... when there is no wind. Playing at the beach was hard. Even trying to hit punch shots and knock downs the ball was really high. Is it worth going back to the old 'standard' length 8-GW in the wind instead? I don't know.. But it will be fun to try out as long as there aren't huge distance gaps.

[ChaosTheory]

I believe the high loft ones going high is due mostly to the shallower angle of attack that you get with a longer club. The club head speed is only about 3 MPH faster, so that's not it. And I've tried tipped or lower flight shafts like Cobra and Edel are doing, with not enough change to get excited about it.

I am going to have to do with the wedges what I did with my last set: Open my stance a bit and play the ball back a bit.

[ARL67]

For those who have dismantled a set of One Lengths, is Cobra using any tip weights in their stock builds ? I want to acquire a used set of OL and cut down to 36.75” or 37.0” which means adding probably 6-8 grams of tip weights.

[J295]

considering single length…

1. Good sources to search for a used set, including 37.5 inch wedges (gap, 54°, 58°).

2. Manufactures recommended for an eight handicap 60-year-old that now plays and likes the looks of Titleist AP2.

[puttitin]

I would love to try the SL as an experiment If I came accross a three tier length set :

- 4H + 5i -7i = 37"- 8i-PW = 36.25" ( 8 iron length)- GW +SW = standard VL

[ARL67]

^^^ I already play L-S-G-PW SL at 36.25" , then I go up in 1/4" increments and 0.5 SW per club, then my 6-5-4 are SL at 37.25"

My next build will be:

36.25" Lob-Sand ( RTX-4 )

36.50" G-P-9-8-7 ( Adams CMB bent 1* strong, the 7i will be 33* ) 

36.75  7-6-5  ( EQ1-NX irons bent 1* weak, 7-6-5 at 33-29-25* )

That will give me 2 same-lofted 7 irons. I will game them and see if one of them proves to be preferable over the other. If I'm getting good distance / separation out of the EQ1 7-6-5, then I will eventually shorten them 1/4" to match the 7-GW lengths. For me, a bit shorter is always better, but for starters I don't want to sacrifice distance gapping out of the gate with the EQ1.

[toolman]

Still loving my one lengths, especially the longer irons. Has anyone cut down the shorter irons to standard length and did this cause any issues? I'm assuming the SWs could be a little off.

[ARL67]

Changed my mind and just put in an order for EQ1-NX 5-SW and a 4H and lots of bore weights. I may as well go all-in on this build. I still plan to build a 3 length set with 1/4" increments, see my post 2 above. Shafts will be from a set of Accra Tour 110i that I've been sitting from a previous build. Latest updates from Wishon's site ( comments section ) is mid-June for the irons and mid-July for the hybrids & woods. Covid is naturally causing manufacturing delays.

[driveandputtmachine]

I am still and have been playing 1/4 increments since 2002. I go down 1/4 to the 9 iron. PW, GW, SW, LW are all the same length. 6 Iron is 1/4 short, 5 iron is 1/2 short and 4 iron is 3/4 short. Not really SL, but I view the world as set length is part of a custom fit set.

Yes, I do have lead tape on my long irons. Yes i did some porting in the hosel on the short irons. I am still experimenting with my new GW, SW, and LW to decide if I will port the back of them or just stick with them being a little bit heavier (SW) than I used to play.

[ARL67]

^^^ Cool that you have been doing 1/4" for such a long time !

I very recently re-tweaked the set in my signature. The L-S-G-PW are SL 36.25 , 9i = 36.5 , 8i = 36.75 , 7i = 37.0, then I am SL 5-6-3 at 37.25. Can't wait to game them once our courses open up ! The Cobra One Length Utilities are an interesting club with stock length of 37.25 with normal grip, an comes with a Recoil 780 F4. I bought a sleeve and made up a matching Steelfiber for it. FYI the head weight is 265g. I found the 3i locally, and recently bought the 4i & 5i on eBay, which should get here in a week. I'll have too much stuff to play with, judge flight, gapping, reliability, and then deciding what to keep, and how my current hybrids fit in, or not. The fun never ends !

One nuisance was that the RTX-4 are D5 stock. I had to drill out a lot to lighten them up to play longer at 36.25". Even now they are a bit heavy for my liking, so I may need to port the backsides if their weight becomes a playing problem.

[scooterhd2]

Just gave up the One Length experiment. Started with the long irons, where I subbed in traditional length. But now I am completely back to variable length and have never been hitting the ball better. I do think the One Length experiment did help me though with understand my swing and setup. Also learned an invaluable lesson about hybrids, as I now play a shortened model. But time to throw the F8s on the bay!

[MountainGoat]

Yes.

If you want clubs that short, probably best to find a set of Sterlings.

[ARL67]

^^^ even better, I just ordered a set of the upcoming EQ1-NX heads

[Stanks]

What are you all using for shafts?

the stock FLT shafts were less than desirable in my mind and I wanted to try different shafts like C tapers or S400s/ X100s if able to.

Im willing to try these again but, those stock shafts gotta change to something that doesn’t feel like a feather or wet noodle.

[Tax77]

Looking for some suggestions on the 4 hybrid vs the Iron. I've been playing the 5,6,7 for several months and really enjoy them. I carry the 6 low-mid 160s, 5 low-mid 170s and am happy with these distances. With how fast I'm swinging do you think id be able to get the iron out there to 180s? Id prefer the iron due to the comfort I have looking down at one but would ok with the hybrid if I don't have the speed. I have serious issues hitting any club off the deck that's over 38 inches, I'm playing my irons at 36.75.

[Celeras]

I don't think there will be any benefit for you using a 4 iron (especially the strong lofted 4s in most of these sets) as a 180 club, but that's just my opinion. If I were you I'd go hybrid.

That being said, the correct answer is always to try them both and find out for sure.

[ChaosTheory]

I’m playing 6-AW Pinhawk Vertex irons. They are intended to be 36.5 inches, but mine are D1 at 37” with 80 gram graphite shafts.

I’m benefiting from the SL aspect. But not personally in love with the shovel size and shape. Very SGI. My iron swing speed is 75. For now I’ve bent them to even 4 degree gaps. 28d 6 iron to 48d AW. The AW goes very high like most SL ones do.

I’m not getting along with the 6 yet. That should improve, based on my past play with SL.

[Tax77]

Went with the hybrid, 2 rounds so far and its awesome. I sorta kinda but not really got the one length going on. F8 4H at 37.25, F9 5,6,7 at 36.75, rest are variable. Best golf I've ever played, so much more confidence at the top of the bag.

[lenman73]

While I am going through some swing changes I made a spontaneous Ebay purchase. I have an inexpensive set of SL's coming. Kind of curious how this will go when they show up.

[hanfrac]

Good luck. My spontaneous purchase arrives later this week.

[lenman73]

Please report back with your thoughts.

[grantc79]

Ive switched back again, I play about the same scores with VL vs SL I just have a lot more confidence in SL clubs. The long irons I'm just very comfortable with and the wedges I'm really comfortable with as well.

I actually gained some distance due to ball position moving a touch back so I can get through impact with more speed.

[lenman73]

I am looking forward to at least giving it a go. I have been working hard on my swing and if maybe this helps too, then win win. If not I have plenty of other sticks to fiddle with.

[stlblues31]

Been playing SL for almost a year now using Cobra Forged Tec Black Irons...found Paderson Kinetixx S.L. shafts on ebay and have switched them into my set...Excited to try them out took them to the range and noticed a higher ball flight out of my 4 and 5 irons as well as a little lower flight out of my 8,9,PW. Definitely intrigued by the combination!