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> @97speedster said:

> > @DonRSD said:

> > @97speedster

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> > Right Angle 2 came in the mail today. Of course I ripped it open and it looks like what Gronk wears on his arm while playing football lmao!!!

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> > On a golf note, goes on rather easily. Tightened it up and made some swings......HOLY MOLY!! It keeps my right arm wide / away from my body. Swing feels much more compact, WIDE and powerful.

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> > I set it on 1/2. Where should it be set on my elbow and how tight should I put it on?

> > I understand what it does for the backswing (wide and powerful) but what does it do / how does it translate to the downswing / impact of the ball?

> > At what point would I hear the clicks? I would THINK I should hear them as late as possible in the backswing, not when taking the club back from the get-go???

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> > I see why you recommend it so highly. After making a few swings I made some swings without it on and felt how narrow / unpowerful I was going back.

> > Not a big training aid guy, but this thing is money!!!

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> Turn the clicker off completely.... you do that by loosening it until the clicker can be twisted and fits in the downward slot then retightened so it’s disabled.

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> Just get width going back and the rest will take care of itself once you’ve made 3,000 reps with it, you should feel more width and much shallower.

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> I put it on my right arm, then I bend my elbow and tighten the middle strap first... the angle of the middle strap should go across the crease of the inside elbow joint firmly, but not too tight. Tighten the bicep strap while you have some flex in your bicep, pretty tight, but not so it cuts off blood flow. Tighten the bottom strap as tightly as you can handle. Always and only use it set on HALF. Some of the best players in the world use this training aid and it’s the best one I’ve ever seen for getting width.

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> You can’t maximize power without width, end of story! Never seen a powerful player on Tour that had a narrow backswing and adding width will help you load behind the ball better/easier too ????.

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Went out today for a round and a LOT better shots. Obviously I am not fully trained about the width / right arm.....but the feeling from the 100 or so swings I did inside of my home was in the back of my mind. Few bad shots always lead to more disaster, but that was a mental issue of not remembering the feeling of the Right Angle 2.

Swing felt really short, compact, shallower on the downswing and more powerful. Driver is still pathetic, but I'm sure its a user-error.

Really like how I felt my wrists c0ck a the top of the short, wide backswing. felt good and on-plane.

 

What happens if the Right Angle 2 is set for another setting besides 1/2 for the full swing? I haven't moved it and don't want to mess up any progress.....just curious why half setting and not full setting for full shots?

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> @97speedster said:

> Limiting the right arm flexion increases the shoulder turn. You want a short arm swing with a big coil. Butch Harmon only sets it on half with every one of his students including the Tour players.

 

That makes perfect sense. Let me also ask you.....do you focus on getting the right shoulder high for the backswing?

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> @97speedster said:

> > @garyt said:

> > Hey Speedster, what's your opinion of the Swingshirt? It seems a little too restrictive to me but after seeing the video with Jimmy and some students I tried swinging imagining I was wearing one and hit the ball great. Have you tried it? I see there's also a newer version.

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> It’s really good, I’ve had one since it first came out; it’s even better when you use it with the right hand glove on, it helps not suck the club too far inside then or you can put it on and make practice backswings ONLY with a wall at your back while using a 7 iron. I mention these two drills because the golf swing shirt helps you stay connected and release the club, but it won’t stop you or prevent you from taking it too far inside on the backswing.... Ballard even told me he agrees with that.

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I like the drill where back is to wall, helps width and keeps club in front, no s#cking inside. But what is the "right glove" on mean?

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yes, extend right arm in front of body (at all times). Seems to me on the best strikes, the left arm is passive and connected, right arm is free to swing wide and high, and right hand/arm springs the shaft and hits the sh*t out of it!!

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> @mocokid said:

> yes, extend right arm in front of body (at all times). Seems to me on the best strikes, the left arm is passive and connected, right arm is free to swing wide and high, and right hand/arm springs the shaft and hits the sh*t out of it without trying to lag it at all. the practice swing with back against wall is a great idea, Mr 97speedster.

 

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> @Ayersjj said:

> Swing shirt vs angle 2 ????

> I have neither. Only JBs connecter and Calvin Peetes Hooker.

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> @Ayersjj said:

> JB has always said 99% of the people he sees come in s#cked to inside. It helped my chipping tremendously. I use to be really handsy and now Im dead hands forcing me to use chest/shoulders hip high to hip high.

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> 5:30 on video

> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CziRo5neLHE

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> > @97speedster said:

> > The right hand glove is good if you suck the club inside or come down under the plane because it helps you keep the club in front of you going back and coming down it makes you steeper. If you are already steep I’d be careful using it.

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> > I hit the ball significantly shorter when I use it and on Trackman it adds way more spin than I want with my clubs. It also hurts my pitching by making my downswing too steep.

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5:30 of that video.....doesnt look like the Right Angle 2 would fit with exactly what JB is teaching. Backswing (even for a full shot) is very close and narrow aka no power or width.

Is this true @97speedster ?

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~~~~> @Tazz4629 said:

> > @97speedster said:

> > @Tazz4629 golf is hard no matter what approach you take with the game.

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> Yes it is my friend.

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> Part of the games allure which is why even the greatest in the game never stop learning, never stop practicing, never stop trying to improve.

 

Are you commenting on the greatest players, or yourself, or all of the above?

 

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@DonRSD Bill Abrams has it totally collapsed but my best friend from college golf is scratch and plays exactly like Abrams collapsed arms. So when a guy beats everybody with collapsed arms maybe the vogue “width” will be a dinosaur.

 

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I learned the JB swing from Bill Abrams. He was down in Parkland @ Heron Bay winter 2018 and I took a few lessons from him. Of course after taking the lessons, I went back to my old ways.

I still text him weekly, as he has turned into a friend. Didn't get to see him this winter, but will when he comes back down.

 

He does have some new video content

 

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Jim McClean on Couples I think confirms a lot of Ballard fundamentals. Looks like Butch was trying to lesson his arm lift as well.

 

> > Triangle to hip high folds on plane

> > High right arm

> > Thumbs under shaft

> > Soft arms

> > Thumbs point in

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> I’ve never once heard JB use Freddie as an example. He keeps his head dead still, has a pretty straight left arm and at impact his body stops and his arms release the club.... his right hand isn’t even on the club in the 3 o’clock position.

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