John Rahm played a "normal" course..

[Z1ggy16]

So he's currently playing to roughly a +5 right now?

 

I'd also feel really bad about myself shooting a 96 in front of him. Least the guy broke triple digits.

[Mdemuth]

Canyon West looks pretty decent, compared to the muni courses around me... I want to see a pro play a muni course (or basically an un-groomed course) in the northeast, with the unranked gravel and sand bunkers, soft and hard packed... the grass knots all around the greens, the gees crap all on the fairways etc..

[MidwestGolfBum]

Canyon West looks pretty decent, compared to the muni courses around me... I want to see a pro play a muni course (or basically an un-groomed course) in the northeast, with the unranked gravel and sand bunkers, soft and hard packed... the grass knots all around the greens, the gees crap all on the fairways etc..

 

There's a story about just that on post 2...

[Ashley Schaeffer]

https://twitter.com/...766077811634177

 

 

Ol' TNT was almost right there with him. Just didn't get the breaks that day. A few more buckets per week and a new shaft in his driver, and he will be right there.

[RobS14526]

https://twitter.com/...766077811634177

 

 

Ol' TNT was almost right there with him. Just didn't get the breaks that day. A few more buckets per week and a new shaft in his driver, and he will be right there.

 

True, but GAR's net bird on No. 2 really kept the team going when Rahmbo wasn't carrying his weight.

[mosesgolf]

JR had a chance to be the #1 player in the world this year. He played at a course 1000 yards shorter than what he normally plays with likely moderate rough. That is a fantastic score and it just shows that these guys who "live under par" are really good. Check that. They're beyond good.

[TeeShive]

A local guy who is now on the web.com tour shot 62 (-10) from our regular tees a few years ago in a pro am. I think second amongst the pros was 68. Was a real eye opener for me how good these guys are.

[RichieHunt]

I know this question comes up once in while and I've also wondered myself. What would a pro shoot at one of the many public "Normal" courses we play? John Rahm played Canyon West somewhere in Texas. Looks like it is rated 72.6/136 from the back.

 

Here is the course scorecard: http://www.canyonwestgolf.com/scorecard/

 

And here is his scorecard... :swoon:

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/9GvGnOL

 

Every time someone asks this question I post this.....................

 

http://www.washingto...ST2009071701245

 

I played with Wayne Levi in 1992, two years after winning the PGA Tour player of the year. We played 9 holes at a public course and he shot....

 

-1 under par.

 

Like Marino states in the column...he was probably never going to shoot over par, but it would be difficult for him to go ridiculously low.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[cliche]

on the other hand, i wonder what i would shoot on a pga tour course? of course i would play from the front greens, but marshals would find my ball everywhere, endless roll when hitting a drive on the fairway, perfect greens, perfect bunkers.

would i shoot lower than on my local muni?

[mjen43]

on the other hand, i wonder what i would shoot on a pga tour course? of course i would play from the front greens, but marshals would find my ball everywhere, endless roll when hitting a drive on the fairway, perfect greens, perfect bunkers.

would i shoot lower than on my local muni?

 

No

[Ashley Schaeffer]

https://twitter.com/...766077811634177

 

 

Ol' TNT was almost right there with him. Just didn't get the breaks that day. A few more buckets per week and a new shaft in his driver, and he will be right there.

 

True, but GAR's net bird on No. 2 really kept the team going when Rahmbo wasn't carrying his weight.

 

So true. GAR was the star player there for a while. If it wasn't for that small stretch of double, bogey, bogey, double, double, bogey to start the back, he would have been right there with TNT. Bad luck. It was basically a stripe show with Rahmbo, TNT, and GAR playing in the same group. I like that they were paired together; something for the kids to brag about seeing.

[nichho]

on the other hand, i wonder what i would shoot on a pga tour course? of course i would play from the front greens, but marshals would find my ball everywhere, endless roll when hitting a drive on the fairway, perfect greens, perfect bunkers.

would i shoot lower than on my local muni?

 

No

 

I can see why it might seem possible. How many times have you seen a good round destroyed because of a lost ball, not lost in one of those places that no man has ever ventured, but lost in the three inch stuff just off the fairway because you're looking in the wrong place, Marshalls take care of that.

And the five iron into the firm green instead of nine iron, the huge roll out will take care of that.

And that little hop 12 inches from the hole that denied you your par, perfect greens will fix it.

 

However on the flip side when you do have to hit five iron in it is unlikely to hold on those firm green. And the chip back, you'll judge it based on your slow greens at home and leave a ten footer coming back.

 

The final outcome, I have absolutely no idea but I'd love to find out.

[Jackhammer993]

Jon Rahm has arrow pointed straight up as far as his career. Needs to start winning more but the talent is there.

[elwhippy]

Thomas, Rahm, a resurgent Jordan, DJ, Rory showing some signs....gonna be a good year. I was talking to our assistant earlier in the week about what a tour pro would shoot round out course. We agreed 63 at the worst, par 71, 6300 yards but needs precision. Simon Dyson hadn't played our course for a few years, turned up for an Open regional qualifier, no practice round. Shot 66, went home. No effort. John Bickerton shot 62 in a friendly and had never played the course before. I dare to think what Rahm would score...at least 4 par 4s would be in range and 2 of our 3 par 5s would a 3 wood and mid to short iron.

[larrybud]

Is one of the courses at PGA Pro school calligraphy? Seems like every one of em has it.

 

That and shirt folding. Without it, you don't graduate!

[mark m]

So he's currently playing to roughly a +5 right now?

 

I'd also feel really bad about myself shooting a 96 in front of him. Least the guy broke triple digits.

 

Actually he is currently about +9 or +10.

 

He does have a cap at Whisper Rock = +6.8

 

On this course rated 136 slope his course handicap = +6.8 x 136 / 113 = +8.18 - which rounds to +8

 

If you look at his scoring record at ghin, it is incomplete. If you look at his scoring record at pagtour.com, and use just his best half of scores, it would be at least +9 or +10. He averages about 66-67 on his best half and the ratings would be in the 74-78 range.

[jdl]

Also, a couple years ago Beau Hossler shot a 65 in the Augusta University tournament at Forest Hills. It's 7100, par 72 with a rating of 74.3/137.

 

There was a 65 and several 66s in this year's event and the field wasn't particularly strong, so not sure that's really much of an accomplishment.

 

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=teamPlayer&tid=14410

[moonshine]

That is one hard 394 yard 2 hdcp hole...wow.

 

Edit: Anyone seen this guy lately?http://www.golf.com/ap-news/alabama-teen-shoots-57-state-junior

[BNGL]

on the other hand, i wonder what i would shoot on a pga tour course? of course i would play from the front greens, but marshals would find my ball everywhere, endless roll when hitting a drive on the fairway, perfect greens, perfect bunkers.

would i shoot lower than on my local muni?

 

No

[Z1ggy16]

Welp Rahm just won with a -20 on what I would assume is a fairly typical PGA level course. Looked like some deep rough... water hazards with pins tucked right next to them... etc.

 

I watched the highlights of his rounds and what really stood out is his ability to get up and down from literally anywhere. He wasn't really that accurate into the greens and it wasn't like he was draining everything under the sun. However, every single less than stellar shot he made, he followed up with an incredible recovery, usually from a wacky lie in the rough.

 

Even though it's a small sample size it could be somewhat safe to say that a typical PGA set up for a guy like JR is playing about 8 shots harder than your typical back tees muni. So if a scratch is shooting in the low 70's at his own track, it could be reasonable to say he could shoot low 80s on a PGA set up.

 

So to answer the proverbial WRX question: Could a scratch shoot 85 at Augusta - I say yes.

[mcd22]

Another oddity of Canyon West golf course is the front-end loader that was buried under the 13th fairway. Allegedly the former owners of the course used stolen equipment to build it and then buried the equipment under the golf course. A decade or more ago insurance investigators dug up 13 to recover the loader. It was temporarily played as GUR. I don't think anyone ever got charged with anything.

[Obee]

Meh...

 

A high school senior just did it also....

 

;-)

 

http://www.scga.org/socal-roundup

[ThinkingPlus]

Meh...

 

A high school senior just did it also....

 

;-)

 

http://www.scga.org/socal-roundup

Steele Canyon is not some wimpy course either. Greens used to be pretty fast IIRC.

[Thayneil]

Probably got hired to set a course record

 

A good Asian Tour player holds a handicap on a Thai based handicap system using all his Pro rounds plus all his casual stuff in Thailand and the Usa.

 

He was plus 6.1 now currently plus 5.4

[AB1102]

Whoever did that scoreboard is phenomenal. Beautiful chisel tip work.

 

It’s so good that the main letters almost look like stamps. Hard to believe anyone’s calligraphy could be that good and fast enough to do a large number of cards in a reasonable time frame. Crazy.

I have seen these done with cardboard stencils

[b.helts]

Whoever did that scoreboard is phenomenal. Beautiful chisel tip work.

 

It’s so good that the main letters almost look like stamps. Hard to believe anyone’s calligraphy could be that good and fast enough to do a large number of cards in a reasonable time frame. Crazy.

I have seen these done with cardboard stencils

 

The numbers are close to identical but not identical. I’m pretty sure that was done by hand.

[gentles]

Jon Rahm has arrow pointed straight up as far as his career. Needs to start winning more but the talent is there.

 

Bad take - he’s been a pro less than 2 years and has 5 wins already....not sure who you’re using as a reference here...

[farmer]

That kid .... that is some golf right there.

[bladehunter]

so Rahm is only player of those 4 to make a single birdie?