G400 Max...Holy Cow!!!

[animalgolfs]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳? Thats alot of meat boys

[nsxguy]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳ Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

[ALIF]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

Its Ballsier!

[animalgolfs]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

[nsxguy]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

[animalgolfs]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

Lower loft{neither are digital loft} so I don't know true loft - but G30 has more for sure. I don't know the SW either, but I had the 12g weight in the G30. They both certainly felt the same on waggle.

 

Ballspeed had to increase from >5mph increase in ss I assume.

 

We hit into the wind just to confirm{carried the max farther every single shot}

 

 

[RodC]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

It is also possible that with the GMAX he’s hitting the ball in a better face position. As some call it, the sweet spot

[RodC]

Is the adaptor the same on the G400 and the GMAX?

I have a g400 and would like to try the GMAX. If I buy the head only, can I use my shaft?

[animalgolfs]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

It is also possible that with the GMAX he’s hitting the ball in a better face position. As some call it, the sweet spot

 

Hey now....

 

Solid they were

[nsxguy]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

Lower loft{neither are digital loft} so I don't know true loft - but G30 has more for sure. I don't know the SW either, but I had the 12g weight in the G30. They both certainly felt the same on waggle.

 

Ballspeed had to increase from >5mph increase in ss I assume.

 

We hit into the wind just to confirm{carried the max farther every single shot}

 

Well, originally you said "same launch" but even if there's a degree of 2 difference it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

 

Raw ball speed would have to increase by about 15 MPH for an additional 27 yards at the same spin rate. Seems unlikely the MAX with the same shaft REDUCED your spin rate much (if at all).

 

Something doesn't add up. For someone to gain that much distance with ONLY a different head, never mind one that "naturally" spins MORE that the other, seems rather unlikely.

 

But if you're happy with your MAX, more power to you,,,,,,,,,,, :hi:

[extrastiff]

I played my first round with the G400 max today. I don't understand what all the buzz is about. It was ok. I didn't find it particularly long or forgiving compared to my latest drivers. Maybe takes some getting used to but didn't find it anything special. I am a big Ping fan and wanted to love it but just didn't see it.

 

There's always hype here. But in truth most modern drivers are more similar than different.

 

I have a G400 Max and like it a lot, but I also liked my previous Callaway Fusion and before that my Cobra LTD.

 

My LM numbers are similar for all of them.

 

On course, I've hit some of my longest recent drives with the Ping, but no longer than I have before.

 

It's all about the strike.

 

The GMax may be a little more forgiving, but the others were no slouch.

 

I'd only expect drastic differences if your previous driver was utterly wrong for you.

This.

 

Plus I'm a huge fan of simple designs that look advanced. Flat black, silver and copper, visible CG/aero tech that's not painted Neon. I like all my clubs to have that stealth,advanced feel. G400 max looks the part, and performs as well as any other.

 

I'm all for the look of these drivers, but I dont really see how you can say it's a simple design. It has a large profile and the dragonfly tech all over the crown. I'm not arguing that it doesn't have all types of neon on it, but this is far from simple.

 

Pick up a cobra LTD black...that's simple.

lol i get you. . . . i more mean it has to have those two elements be the most important things.. . . so it looks "advanced" with the dragonfly, etc. But also "simple" in the color choice with the flat black

[nsxguy]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

It is also possible that with the GMAX he's hitting the ball in a better face position. As some call it, the sweet spot

 

He's a 2 handicap. If he was comparing off center hits to ON center hits I'm sure he would have said so.

[kcstock]

There is no cure to a bad swing. But I love my g400 max, I feel confident and fast with it. Almost like I can hit it as long as I need to. Once I pull the trigger I am reminded that 250 is really my

Max...

[Yrrdead]

I would just like to point out that the CG of the G400 MAX is lower than the G30LST so depending on strike this could lead to some lower spin. I wouldn't say that the G30LST is "naturally" lower spinning than a G400MAX. But to gain 25yards by lowering launch and spin both with a head with higher MOI , not that crazy. Especially Total yards not carry.

[VNutz]

Is the adaptor the same on the G400 and the GMAX?

I have a g400 and would like to try the GMAX. If I buy the head only, can I use my shaft?

 

Yes

[Nixhex524]

I would just like to point out that the CG of the G400 MAX is lower than the G30LST so depending on strike this could lead to some lower spin. I wouldn't say that the G30LST is "naturally" lower spinning than a G400MAX. But to gain 25yards by lowering launch and spin both with a head with higher MOI , not that crazy. Especially Total yards not carry.

 

I was going to say the same.... I hit the 10* LST and the Max with the same shaft and was getting very comparable numbers spin wise.. 1800-2000. The Max was launching higher and carrying further. The Max spins lower than you'd expect, it's a phenomenal driver.

[Wlaffey]

I Have had the PING G400 Max in the bag for 2months now.

Honeymoon over and......

I love this club even more. Hitting wedges into the greens on long par 4's and 5 & 6 irons onto par 5's, and I am not a big hitter.

This club has changed my game.

The forgiveness has enabled me to have the confidence to swing harder at the ball.

 

[mackberg]

Plays great as does the rogue

I am switching off and hitting both well. Prefer feel of the rogue with the evenflow blue 65 stiff over the g400 Max w ping tour stiff. But they are both great! I just need to try more shafts in both!

[Deadpool_25]

Just picked up approximately 27yds

 

Old: G30 LST 10.5* big "+"

 

NEW: G400 max 9* big "+"

 

Both w/same exact Tour 65 Ping shaft

 

⛳�� Thats alot of meat boys

 

Well then, to what do you attribute the 27 yard gain ?

 

WAY less spin with same launch & increased ballspeed

 

 

Some rudimentary calculations with flightscope reveal that at 100 or 110 swing speed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Spinning a LOW spin head like the G30LST @ a rather HIGH spin rate of ~3500 RPMs and the new higher spinning head G400MAX @ a rather LOW spin rate of ~ 2000 RPMs produces a total of about 25 more yards (Total).

 

So then assuming, especially with the same shaft, your swing speed and therefore your ball speed shouldn't/wouldn't change much, if at all, how would you suppose you reduced your spin rate ~1500 RPM with what is a higher spin head ?

 

From what I’ve seen, the Max often seems to spin as low as, or lower than, the LST heads. Seems odd to me, but that’s my experience. Small sample size though.

[Deadpool_25]

I would just like to point out that the CG of the G400 MAX is lower than the G30LST so depending on strike this could lead to some lower spin. I wouldn't say that the G30LST is "naturally" lower spinning than a G400MAX. But to gain 25yards by lowering launch and spin both with a head with higher MOI , not that crazy. Especially Total yards not carry.

 

I was going to say the same.... I hit the 10* LST and the Max with the same shaft and was getting very comparable numbers spin wise.. 1800-2000. The Max was launching higher and carrying further. The Max spins lower than you'd expect, it's a phenomenal driver.

 

This.

[sleezyt]

You guys getting low spin (1800-2400) how fast are your swing speeds?

Im at 114-117 and couldnt get the 9 degree turned to 8 with tour 65 xstiff to spin much under 3000. I also dont usually struggle with high spin. Hit up 3-5 degrees. 1 capp so know my strike locations and effects of so.

[TNGolfer8]

So, I've been following the hype on the 400 max for a while and decided to pull the trigger. I had a chance to hit some range balls yesterday before the rain came.

 

I compared it against the 10.5 M1 that I've been playing with an Aldila Tour Green. I ordered the Ping at 10.5 with the Tour 65 Shaft.

 

It looks like the 400 max goes higher and longer. The two things that stand out- As others have mentioned, it does not move much offline, at all. Another thing that surprised me- I was hitting into a pretty strong wind, and it just went right through it. No ballooning at all.

 

I"m going to put in play for a while and see how things go. I played some of the best golf of my life with the older Ping G2, so I'm looking forward to using a Ping driver again.

[RuffingIt]

You guys getting low spin (1800-2400) how fast are your swing speeds?

Im at 114-117 and couldnt get the 9 degree turned to 8 with tour 65 xstiff to spin much under 3000. I also dont usually struggle with high spin. Hit up 3-5 degrees. 1 capp so know my strike locations and effects of so.

 

I'm roughly within the same numbers. Kuro Kage xstiff might be something to look into. Although, i initially was looking to get the Max, my fitter suggested to go with the LST, which kept my dispersion tighter

[GolfChannel]

Huge proponent of cutting down drivers to a shorter length and wanted to try a G400 Max. I found one in the extreme. 43 inch Driver in 10 degrees in the trade in bin.

 

The club was stupid easy to hit and still long on poor hits. Not sure I would go down that low in length on my own driver (I like them at 44 inches), but damn that club was fun to hit.

[Zach Heusser]

Huge proponent of cutting down drivers to a shorter length and wanted to try a G400 Max. I found one in the extreme. 43 inch Driver in 10 degrees in the trade in bin.

 

The club was stupid easy to hit and still long on poor hits. Not sure I would go down that low in length on my own driver (I like them at 44 inches), but damn that club was fun to hit.

Thanks for the info. My shaft should be here tomorrow. I’m going to set it up at 44

[Sanzabar]

Alright.. this is getting downright silly. I’m not this good of a driver of the golf ball. It’s starting to get shocking if I miss the fairway. It’s long, forgiving and most importantly.. fun to hit.

[t4t3r]

Anyone with any insight into whether the Max will get a price drop and if so, when?

[jrr]

Never thought in almost 60 years of this game I would be surprised.

 

Went to a fitting for new Mizuno's HM irons. I do love the nippon Modus 120 big time. On a lark I asked the pro to drag along a Max 10.5 with something stiff in it. It was the alta 55S.

 

Got through with irons and picked my Epic SZ 10, playing at 44.5 with a Tensei Blue S. Pretty good downwind less than 10mph but not by much. Range is very slightly down hill to 200 flag and then flat from 200-230+ flat and significantly up hill from there up.

 

Hit maybe 4 balls with the SZ landing somewhere on the flat section. Hit 10 with the Max. First 5 landing at the back of the flat part 220+ carry and the last 5 on the uphill side like hitting a wall. The flight was easily 2 times the SZ in height which aided the distance of the Max to some degree. Every single shot went exactly over the same target point. I frankly, was immediately comfortable and just let fly which helped the last 5 in distance. Like the distance, absolutely will buy one for the control which is amazing.

[liljim]

Anyone with any insight into whether the Max will get a price drop and if so, when?

 

No one the price drop for the Max. At least right now. It is staying in the lineup.

[AKFLY]

Lot's of hype on this driver. Tempting to get on a launch monitor next week. I am currently playing a 16' M2 -10.5 with an aldila silver 70s. I am launching that a bit high but my misses are right. should I Look to a 9 degree Max as a starting point ? Also, how does the Tour 75 shaft compare to the Aldila ?