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I have no knowledge to be giving anyone swing advice but losing 50 yards off an 8 iron says something is drastically wrong. You say you're hitting it solid but an 80 year old hitting it solid would hi

> @PorscheFan said: > > @Zitlow said: > > > Haven't been following the thread very closely. Is this the OP? Whoever it is looks very good at the top with the exception of his pac

"A picture is worth 1,000 words".

 

In this case... post a video to this thread of your swing. Down the line, and face on. The knowledgeable people here will diagnose things and maybe give you some clues as to what's going on. Also, there's always coaches in your area you can visit, too.

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Troll?

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Have you checked your driver for damage (cracked face, cracked shaft,etc). The loss of distance for the other clubs could easily be explained by a speed loss that can be explained as mentioned by others "holding" things (like the wrist cock), jerking, thrusting body parts, etc. Try borrowing the driver of someone who hits it the distance you used to, and see if their driver goes any further than your current.

 

In your mind where do you think speed comes from? Some times people get incorrect concepts in their head. When you used to swing your clubs and get distance did you hear a woosh sound? Do you hear a woosh sound now?

Monte has posted articles on his website about how many people have misconceptions and think the faster they move their hips the faster they will swing the club. He disproved that in one article where he compared speed stats for himself, Rory Mcilroy, and three (?) of his students, and in another where he compared PGA vs LPGA pro speed specs.

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You gotta swing loose to get clubhead speed, I suspect you're overly tensed up and too muscle-constricted throughout the swing. You gotta fling the club, not swat.

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> @sprcoop said:

> Any idea what your club head speed was before and after the total collapse? Driver CHS of 75MPH would give you 140yd carry. Your previous carry of 230 would need 100MPH CHS. I would be surprised if you lost that much CHS over night but very curious. I have not seen that mentioned in this thread.

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> Any way to check your CHS with and without a ball?

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> Driver ball flight extremely high, low, massive curvature? What is your current Pro telling you?

 

I've been using a sports club simulator to get my data. The numbers there match what I see at the range. My shot is pretty straight. However my swing speed was 70mph with everything I had in me. I used to hang between 95-98. So that matches the chart. Not sure how to gain 25mph.

 

 

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> @"Golf Scientist" said:

> Have you checked your driver for damage (cracked face, cracked shaft,etc). The loss of distance for the other clubs could easily be explained by a speed loss that can be explained as mentioned by others "holding" things (like the wrist cock), jerking, thrusting body parts, etc. Try borrowing the driver of someone who hits it the distance you used to, and see if their driver goes any further than your current.

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> In your mind where do you think speed comes from? Some times people get incorrect concepts in their head. When you used to swing your clubs and get distance did you hear a woosh sound? Do you hear a woosh sound now?

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I don't think it's damaged. Nothing obvious anyway. Whoosh, can't say I've paid attention to that.

 

 

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> @80sFredriksson said:

> Feel your pain op, for me making sure I am swinging with a very specific target in mind and doing relaxed feet together drill swings usually help me reset.

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> Starting to think you are trolling us considering how little information you are sharing, post a vid? What does your pro say?

I have to admit, that's my thought also. Losing that much distance was a bit suspicious to begin with. But a year later and no change or more info while seeing a pro? Something's up.

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> But a year later and no change or more info while seeing a pro? Something's up.

 

Not all "pros" are good teachers, can spot causes as opposed to effects, provide technically accurate information, nor communicate well with all students. Just because said person was labeled a "pro" at some point doesn't mean that he/she is garenteed to fix a problem.

 

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> @"Golf Scientist" said:

> > @garyt said:

> > But a year later and no change or more info while seeing a pro? Something's up.

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> Not all "pros" are good teachers, can spot causes as opposed to effects, provide technically accurate information, nor communicate well with all students. Just because said person was labeled a "pro" at some point doesn't mean that he/she is garenteed to fix a problem.

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I agree, but his problem is so bad I have to believe darn near anyone could fix it somewhat. I've been to some bad pros.

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> @otto6457 said:

> No joke here. You might want to see a doctor. This sort of loss of physical capacity is worrying.

 

This is exactly what I thought. I cant see some change in mechanics, with solid contact, having such a drastic effect.

 

If physically everything is 'good' and without seeing you hit it, I would recommend really working on mobility. Check out kelly starrets mobility WOD (workout of the day). 10 minutes a day.

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> @mrfld said:

> 1 fast swing and 1 slow swing example.

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What club is that (some sort of wedge)? If it is a wedge that would make low speed and high spin somewhat explainable. Looking at stats like that without knowing what club it is the thing that is most concerning beyond speed and spin is the smash factor. Such low smash factor suggested it is not being hit anywhere near the sweet spot. (A very high lofted wedge isn't going to have a high smash factor compared to a low lofted club , but still...) If you have tape you can put on the club face to confirm where you are making contact that would be helpful in a diagnosis.

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> @"Golf Scientist" said:

> > @mrfld said:

> > 1 fast swing and 1 slow swing example.

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> What club is that (some sort of wedge)? If it is a wedge that would make low speed and high spin somewhat explainable. Looking at stats like that without knowing what club it is the thing that is most concerning beyond speed and spin is the smash factor. Such low smash factor suggested it is not being hit anywhere near the sweet spot. (A very high lofted wedge isn't going to have a high smash factor compared to a low lofted club , but still...) If you have tape you can put on the club face to confirm where you are making contact that would be helpful in a diagnosis.

 

I think that is his 7 iron, hence his unhappiness.

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Would wager that you are so focused on positions (read: trying to hold my wrist angle) that you just aren't swinging with any kind of athleticism. Stop thinking, pick up your driver, swing it as hard as you can for 5-10 swings without a ball and go from there. May even help to take some step through swings (start with feet together and stride as you swing). Hopefully you remember what it feels like to be athletic.

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> @mrfld said:

> > @sprcoop said:

> > Any idea what your club head speed was before and after the total collapse? Driver CHS of 75MPH would give you 140yd carry. Your previous carry of 230 would need 100MPH CHS. I would be surprised if you lost that much CHS over night but very curious. I have not seen that mentioned in this thread.

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> > Any way to check your CHS with and without a ball?

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> > Driver ball flight extremely high, low, massive curvature? What is your current Pro telling you?

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> I've been using a sports club simulator to get my data. The numbers there match what I see at the range. My shot is pretty straight. However my swing speed was 70mph with everything I had in me. I used to hang between 95-98. So that matches the chart. Not sure how to gain 25mph.

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At this point I would love to see a vid of your 98 MPH swing and current 70 MPH swing. There has to be a glaring difference or you've had a catastrophic physical change.

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Listen, I've gone through periods where I've lost distance (we all do), and I can relate to your frustration. It's depressing. But THAT kind of loss of distance, while still feeling you are hitting it solid, indicates that something fundamentally changed in your move into the ball; you just don't recognize it. Find a good teacher you trust and he'll fix you. You were hitting it 230-240; that guy is still in there somewhere, and a good teacher can find him pretty easily. Gotta be something w/ your angles at impact, trying to hold lag causing steering, not getting your body thru the shots (first cousin to "all hands and arms"), something fairly simple.

 

Do agree that the first thing you should do is the feet together drill w/ 7 iron, making easy rhythmic swings, focusing on solidity of contact.

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> @garyt said:

> I have no knowledge to be giving anyone swing advice but losing 50 yards off an 8 iron says something is drastically wrong. You say you're hitting it solid but an 80 year old hitting it solid would hit it more than 100 yards. You should post a video.

 

It just does not happen that way over night.

The OP must have something else going on in his life to cause this. New medical condition ?

Losing 1/3 of carrying distance for an 8 iron is ridiculously huge. If this happened in real life, there must be some other reason for it, besides changing the golf swing.

Or, perhaps he was not measuring the distance correctly, ask the driving range if they had changed the marking for the yardage recently.

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