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Shaft is Apex 3, grip looks original.I will replace it with one of the spare Ben Hogan grips i have.

Do you have any idea how to identify the club via the serial number ?

 

Apparently the only reason they painted some Hogan woods black was because of the poor quality grain. I have Hogan radials 1-7 wood painted black.

But then again i know next to nothing about Hogan clubs, i have only started playing them 4 months ago

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If I recall my Hogan correctly, the letter is the production year. The next two numbers represent the model. The third number is the type of shaft, followed by stiffness, followed by swingweight (as a D). I believe the Apex debuted in 78. Hence F would get me to 1984. 73 is just the model (i.e. Apex). 0 was the code for the Apex shaft (hence 03 makes sense), and likely that comes in at a D1. To me, looks about right for that model, but look for confirmation as to when Hogan started making it, then count six (for F) from there.

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The other factor that makes me think this is an original from 1984 is the color of the insert.  It is a different shade of red than what Hogan used previously, and that's another change that I remember from back then.  Truth is, the reason I remember it is I didn't particularly care for that color combination back then, and with apologies the picture above does nothing to change my mind.  But to find such a club of that age and apparently unused is still a special event. 

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Thanks for your help guys.

I received the club yesterday.

It was indeed un-used.

I went to my local course and played.

I hit 4 drives, the first 3 were ugly low heel slices.

I adjusted my alignment and the 4th drive was better than any drive I have hit with my TM jetspeed.

I play off 16 , so obviously my driving is not great. A perfect drive goes about 250 yards.

And that's how far this club went on the 4th attempt.

 

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> @skyline209 said:

> I adjusted my alignment and the 4th drive was better than any drive I have hit with my TM jetspeed.

If you're interested, this is one of the best explanations of the difference between titanium and persimmon that I've seen. Not surprising that it comes from Frank Thomas (not the baseball player; the former USGA technical director). The club does make a difference, but it has to be fitted correctly and, ultimately, swung correctly:

https://www.golfchannel.com/article/frank-thomas/persimmon-vs-titanium

 

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One of the biggest problems with modern drivers is how upright are the lie angles. The only way to hit them consistently is to raise the handle through impact. No wonder modern pros are jumping through impact on their drives. Persimmons, especially the older ones, have a very complimentary lie angle with the rest of the clubs and you can swing those more around yourself. And they don't sound like hitting aluminum bats.

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Since you asked..

The information on your club comes from the Kaplan Compilation of the MacGregor Catalogs, and other sources.

Ben Hogan was signed by MacGregor in 1939, along with fellow Texans Jimmy Demaret and Byron Nelson.

The "Clover" stamping was common on a number of MacGregor "signature" clubs offered in their General Line.

That means the clubs were sold in other places besides golf courses. Got that?

Ben Hogan, Byron Nelson, and Jimmy Demaret all had clubs with the MacGregor "Clover" logo.

They all had a "TEXAN" line as well. Different soleplate.

MacGregor Chief Club Designer Will Sime is responsible for the "BAP" design, as listed on page 2 of the 1936 MaGregor catalog.

Your 1432 is likely part of the clubs offered in the Ben Hogan General Line. Yes, yours has been refinished and likely reshafted.

NOTE- The "Rams Horn Soleplate" design of this MacGregor persimmon wood was used by Dave Wood in his Wood Bros designs.

Dave Wood also wrote to me about the history of the "OIL HARDENED" process, and use of the "OIL HARDENED" stamp.

 

 

 

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