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As of a couple of days ago, they were both $39. The descriptions are reversed at TGW. Go by the photos, not the description. I ordered the navy blue zoned and received the navy blue fully insulated. Everybody who has reported their purchase here has had the same experience. The fully insulated Norse II is not $89 (before the 30% "EAGLE" discount).

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Thanks for the feedback. Here's what I am looking at: PING Men's Norse Primaloft II Golf Jacket | TGW.com$39 (Edit $49 now), picture looks like ZONED

PING Mens Norse Primaloft Zoned II Full Zip Jacket | TGW.com

$89, picture looks like Fully Insulated (but description says Zoned)

 

Based on what you're saying I need to order the $89 version marked Zoned because I want that full insulation. Right? Right!

Very Confusing but we will get there in the end!

 

 

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What Bill says here is accurate. The reason some people are saying they ordered the $39 version and got the fully insulated model is because, prior to yesterday, both were $39. Now that that particular sale is over, the fully insulated model is $89. And the reason we know that is because of the snorkel blue option. Snorkel blue was only offered in the fully insulated (I can show you guys the catalog, it's right here on my desk), so any listing offering snorkel blue, by default, has to be the fully insulated. Regardless of description, picture, etc. Snorkel blue was by far the worst seller of the two colors of the fully insulated Norse, so it would make sense it's the last one left available.

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The Norse Vest has "Primaloft Gold". The other Norse jackets have "Primaloft Silver". So, uh, I've got that going for me.... Which is nice... . I don't suppose anyone knows the difference? Or if there is a significant difference? And either way, why use Silver in the sleeved jackets (both Zoned and regular) and Gold in the vest?

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That is why I needed to beware. The arms and top fit, but the tire is kinda unbecoming.

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I’d say it’s purely about hitting a price point in manufacturing. The fully insulated model obviously needs more primaloft material due to the sleeves. Silver is cheaper than gold in primaloft material, even though there’s not a lot of noticeable difference in insulating properties. Vest, with less area to cover, probably lets them use Gold and come in at the slightly lower price point than the full sleeved Norse.

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What is the fit like on the Knox and Pax? I ordered the large, but I'm a medium in most golf clothing. Figured if it's too big I'll just give it to someone as a X-mas gift this year.

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I think the Knox/Pas (my personal opinion) give a little more freedom in sizing because of the material and way they are constructed. Extra fine merino wool (well...any merino wool really) is soft with a LOT of stretch. Coupled with the fact that this style (Knox/Pax) is cut to be a tailored/close fit, I think it lends itself to be way more versatile, and allows you to size up or down by one size and still be usable. For example, I've lost a lot of mass due to not being able to train like I used to (shoulder and back injuries), and last year I was firmly in XXL PING outerwear (size XL "American cut"). So, my existing Knoxes are XXL, even though I'm into an "American cut" Large now (and on the low side of that). I can wear my XXL Knox fine, as the elasticity of the material kind of allows it to draw up against me and not be as loose/blousy as one might expect. Also, I can fit just fine into my newly ordered XL Knoxes (had to load up due to these insane prices) and have a more tailored, slim/Euro fit. So with the two sizes (XXL and XL) in the Knox, I can go for a more comfortable./causal look (XXL), or a more tailored/dressy look (XL).

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The Elden was smaller, but not much smaller on me. Though I just received the Knox hoodie in a large and it fits okay, better than the large Elden. I'm looking forward to getting the Pax sweater since it should fit the same.

My Norse ii fully insulated jacket got canceled (along with two of the pullovers I tried to order) - was told they found it was out of stock when processing my order. Oh well, maybe it will show up again somewhere and I have a few shekels back in my pocket.

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That's odd. I haven't seen the Eldens as long at all, and I'm not the tallest person at 5ft 9in, and own every color. And I've sold a ton of them, and put all of my staff in them (at least one Elden each), and none of them have said anything about feeling long, or even appear to be long for those that are wearing them (staff wearing them every day this time of year).

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I'd always say the Norse vest and a separate long sleeve mid-layer would be a better alternative than the Zoned. The two-piece solution would be more versatile. The Zoned isn't really a product I see a use for, even though I have a few from the messed up embroidery order (all were supposed to be fully insulated Norses). It's literally a thin vest with sleeves.

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