Spieth Facing Sanctions?

[Holy Moses]

Spieth added the Shriners Hospital for Children Open in Vegas. The tournament “had been on his radar for a while.” Been on his radar since the Tour made him add a tournament after not entering enough tournaments this season.

[grm24]

Spieth added the Shriners Hospital for Children Open in Vegas. The tournament "had been on his radar for a while." Been on his radar since the Tour made him add a tournament after not entering enough tournaments this season.

Or it's simply this.

 

https://www.golfchan...season-earlier/

 

One option would be to increase the number of new events, and that might not be a problem. Even before Spieth was in jeopardy of missing the Tour Championship, he was contemplating adding as many as two North American stops in the fall. Spieth is getting married after the fall season and is likely to pass on overseas travel this year.

 

The tour said they were going to announce something regarding Spieth and his resolution to not playing 25 events this past season.

 

​https://www.cbssport...rule-violation/

 

Despite the violation, though, it appears we don't have to worry about Spieth's time on the course taking a hit. PGA Tour COO Andy Pazder revealed that the matter is taken care of.

"I have talked to Jordan and we've resolved it," Pazder said, via The Golf Channel. "We have come to a resolution. I'm not going to be able to share the details of that. I will say the result is something that you will see next season. It's resolved in a way that's going to be a win for our tournaments, our fans and golf in general."

[Holy Moses]

Well it is the new golf season and this is a new tournament for him and the Tour doesn’t like publicly announcing punishments so...

[bladehunter]

Its been resolved but as usual with the PGA Tour everything is a secret.

 

https://www.golfchan...d-and-win-fans/

 

Love that it's kept quiet. I do not think it's anyones business personally. Love that it irritates the nosy Nelly's of the world.

 

It doesn't irritate me, I just think the lack of transparency is weird. Bizarre why anyone would love that.

 

Bizarre? how so ? i prefer that the sport not be subject of the media circuses that follow a suspension announcement ... I just simply have no "need to know" in me .. Matters like these are private in my book ..and should stay that way . Nobody profits from the tour being trashed.

[Hawkeye77]

Spieth is playing an extra tourney and the PED junk is back? Who cares - we don't NEED to know, but we have known, but we don't NEED to know.

 

I need to know if the most popular socks on tour are 100% polyester or have a little merino, and where those sheep or goats or whatever are raised, and in what colors.

[Golfer4Life]

I don't think it has to do much with "a need to know", but if you are going to advertise the sport as one of integrity and gentlemanly behavior, secrecy is not a good thing.

 

Personally, I don't care what these people do. They don't affect me one bit and I'm not looking at tour players as a moral compass of any kind.

[Christosterone]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin’

 

-Chris

[MattyO1984]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

These guys are as big as linebackers these days.

[Hawkeye77]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

Randy White would snap Lonard like a dry, skinny twig! Koepka would run out of sheer terror!

[manku]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

These guys are as big as linebackers these days.

 

Wait a minute...I thought they were gunslingers.

[bladehunter]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

These guys are as big as linebackers these days.

 

Wait a minute...I thought they were gunslingers.

 

Most of them under 6 ft. With about 20 inches of reach. Hardly beastly men.

[NoTalentLefty]

Spieth is playing an extra tourney and the PED junk is back? Who cares - we don't NEED to know, but we have known, but we don't NEED to know.

 

I need to know if the most popular socks on tour are 100% polyester or have a little merino, and where those sheep or goats or whatever are raised, and in what colors.

 

The OP was started by Reed’s mother in law. Now that’s a rumor.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

These guys are as big as linebackers these days.

 

Wait a minute...I thought they were gunslingers.

 

Most of them under 6 ft. With about 20 inches of reach. Hardly beastly men.

 

Everybody touts Rory as an animal. I saw him in person and he's a midget, sorry, short person. I'm 6'1" 220 and I'd let him take the first two shots and still beat him up.

 

Brooks is supposed to be a monster out there too but he's not that big. The two guys who shocked me by how tall they are in person is Brandt and Webb. I really never thought of them as tall but they're both probably 6'2 or 6'3.

 

This post has absolutely nothing to do with how the thread started but it seems to fit the direction it headed.

[bladehunter]

Peter Lonard was about the same size as randy white or Steve Garvey in his prime...

 

Not implying anything...just sayin'

 

-Chris

 

These guys are as big as linebackers these days.

 

Wait a minute...I thought they were gunslingers.

 

Most of them under 6 ft. With about 20 inches of reach. Hardly beastly men.

 

Everybody touts Rory as an animal. I saw him in person and he's a midget, sorry, short person. I'm 6'1" 220 and I'd let him take the first two shots and still beat him up.

 

Brooks is supposed to be a monster out there too but he's not that big. The two guys who shocked me by how tall they are in person is Brandt and Webb. I really never thought of them as tall but they're both probably 6'2 or 6'3.

 

This post has absolutely nothing to do with how the thread started but it seems to fit the direction it headed.

 

Lol. Yep. Agree. First time I saw a couple of them in person I thought “wtf”. It’s funny how the camera adds . My 10 year old is as big as Brian Harmon. True story.

[ea19]

Looks like Mayakoba is the tournament Spieth has to add.

 

[imakaveli]

Looks like Mayakoba is the tournament Spieth has to add.

 

Poor guy has to Spend a week playing golf in Riviera Maya :(

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

[grm24]

Looks like Mayakoba is the tournament Spieth has to add.

He added the Las Vegas event as well a couple of weeks back.

[bladehunter]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

 

yea but you cant keep the non profit ( for the tour) and contractor status for all the players at some point if you start dictating their schedules.... Eventually they are employees and it isnt "prize" money anymore... Think NFL MLB... all contracted gauranteed salary players with bonus options... and their schedules are dictated to them ..

[cdnglf]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

 

yea but you cant keep the non profit ( for the tour) and contractor status for all the players at some point if you start dictating their schedules.... Eventually they are employees and it isnt "prize" money anymore... Think NFL MLB... all contracted gauranteed salary players with bonus options... and their schedules are dictated to them ..

 

I think these are separate issues.

 

The PGA Tour has had minimum event limits for years, and has rules about getting permission to play events on other tours. I'm pretty sure the LPGA has a "play an event every 5 years" rule almost exactly like the one described above.

 

The NFL was a non-profit until 2 or 3 years ago. The NHL was also a non-profit at that time, and might still be.

[bladehunter]

MAYbe so. But no chance the players union ever agrees to the tour dictating the schedule of a group of contractors. That’s double dipping by the tour anyway you slice it.

[cdnglf]

MAYbe so. But no chance the players union ever agrees to the tour dictating the schedule of a group of contractors. That's double dipping by the tour anyway you slice it.

 

What players union?

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

 

yea but you cant keep the non profit ( for the tour) and contractor status for all the players at some point if you start dictating their schedules.... Eventually they are employees and it isnt "prize" money anymore... Think NFL MLB... all contracted gauranteed salary players with bonus options... and their schedules are dictated to them ..

 

I'm not sure how it is different than what Spieth is going through now...

 

There were two options on the table. 1. They were going to set it up so that there was a WGC event about once a month and they would rotate which sites got the WGC event so most of the events would have a strong field at least once a year. That didn't sit well with the sponsors because most of them have an interest in the city that they choose to sponsor an event it.

 

2. Much like there is set up now there were going to be standards set for players to play in a certain amount of events and a certain amount of new events every year. Now it's something like you had to play in at least one or two new events per year and that won out over you had to play in a much higher amount of events that you haven't played in during the last 5 years essentially meaning you had to play in every event at least once over the course of five years. That lost out because the big guys weren't going to play in the dinky events.

 

What ended up happening is what we have now. To keep your status you have to play in a small amount of new events.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

MAYbe so. But no chance the players union ever agrees to the tour dictating the schedule of a group of contractors. That's double dipping by the tour anyway you slice it.

 

What players union?

 

There is no Players Union. He has 0.0 idea of what he's talking about.

 

Yours,

Mr. Blutarsky

[Guia]

My PGA TOUR inside source says they are going to make an example of him! He has to play with me and my Geezer group in our annual four ball.

 

You may never see him again.

[DrivingChamp]

There punishing him by making him play a rookie schedule

[bladehunter]

MAYbe so. But no chance the players union ever agrees to the tour dictating the schedule of a group of contractors. That's double dipping by the tour anyway you slice it.

 

What players union?

 

 

well excuse me .. There should be .... I mistook that for the association that Spieth is the chair of ..what is it called ?

 

 

 

edit- This is what i mistakenly called a "union".... although in my opinion it seems to serve a similar purpose ... lets not act like the players dont have a group who communicate adn leverage a group weight for decisions on tour... you guys are picking nits , not proving points.

 

https://www.pgatour.com/company/2018/02/14/jordan-spieth-player-advisory-council-chairman-2018.html

[bladehunter]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

 

yea but you cant keep the non profit ( for the tour) and contractor status for all the players at some point if you start dictating their schedules.... Eventually they are employees and it isnt "prize" money anymore... Think NFL MLB... all contracted gauranteed salary players with bonus options... and their schedules are dictated to them ..

 

I'm not sure how it is different than what Spieth is going through now...

 

There were two options on the table. 1. They were going to set it up so that there was a WGC event about once a month and they would rotate which sites got the WGC event so most of the events would have a strong field at least once a year. That didn't sit well with the sponsors because most of them have an interest in the city that they choose to sponsor an event it.

 

2. Much like there is set up now there were going to be standards set for players to play in a certain amount of events and a certain amount of new events every year. Now it's something like you had to play in at least one or two new events per year and that won out over you had to play in a much higher amount of events that you haven't played in during the last 5 years essentially meaning you had to play in every event at least once over the course of five years. That lost out because the big guys weren't going to play in the dinky events.

 

What ended up happening is what we have now. To keep your status you have to play in a small amount of new events.

 

other than me mistakenly thinking they had a players " union" ( they do have a group)for bargaining , how does the reality you describe differ from what i said ???? I literally said the player arent going to allow their schedules to be dictated ... same same . no ? They have to play a minimum number, but they arent being handed out schedules

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

I like when they were throwing around the idea of having to play in every tournament at least once over a 5 year period but the big guys were having nothing to do with that idea. They'd actually have to tee it up when they didn't feel like playing once in a while, how hard would that be to overcome? I don't remember who it was just recently complaining about the travel but I really feel bad for him too. All those traveling salesmen out there scratching out a living back in business class don't have nearly the struggles of these poor tour pros.

 

yea but you cant keep the non profit ( for the tour) and contractor status for all the players at some point if you start dictating their schedules.... Eventually they are employees and it isnt "prize" money anymore... Think NFL MLB... all contracted gauranteed salary players with bonus options... and their schedules are dictated to them ..

 

I'm not sure how it is different than what Spieth is going through now...

 

There were two options on the table. 1. They were going to set it up so that there was a WGC event about once a month and they would rotate which sites got the WGC event so most of the events would have a strong field at least once a year. That didn't sit well with the sponsors because most of them have an interest in the city that they choose to sponsor an event it.

 

2. Much like there is set up now there were going to be standards set for players to play in a certain amount of events and a certain amount of new events every year. Now it's something like you had to play in at least one or two new events per year and that won out over you had to play in a much higher amount of events that you haven't played in during the last 5 years essentially meaning you had to play in every event at least once over the course of five years. That lost out because the big guys weren't going to play in the dinky events.

 

What ended up happening is what we have now. To keep your status you have to play in a small amount of new events.

 

other than me mistakenly thinking they had a players " union" ( they do have a group)for bargaining , how does the reality you describe differ from what i said ???? I literally said the player arent going to allow their schedules to be dictated ... same same . no ? They have to play a minimum number, but they arent being handed out schedules

 

We're actually both kind of right but I never said the PGA Tour would just hand out a schedule. Right now one of the things you can do to comply with the minimum starts requirement is add an event you haven't played in during the last four years. They were talking about making that number six events so essentially telling the guys they would have to play in every tournament over the course of five years but it didn't happen and stayed at 1.

 

The committee you're pointing out isn't even close to a union or bargaining group. They also have a players rules committee that basically tells the Tour what they're going to do. If you follow news you might remember that it was a pretty big discussion about whether or not the players should unionize when Vijay got the boot for using the deer antler spray.

[GoGoErky]

Looks like Mayakoba is the tournament Spieth has to add.

 

Actually Shriners Open would be the tournament that would meet the pga requirement for a new tournament. I’m wondering if Mayakoba was part of it. Something like add two this year and no fine or suspension or play one and sit out a few weeks