Reed Unhappy with Jordan and Jim in Interview

[MtlJeff]

Didn't the Thomas/Spieth pairing go 2-1? Not bad in a Ryder Cup where you got crushed. And as others have said curious comments considering his own poor play

 

Reed probably isn't a terrible person, but he certainly seems like a tough guy to be friends with. The comments were a little unnecessary, even if there's some truth to them. He just seems like that guy that people don't like. Every group has one LoL

 

They went 3-1

 

Even better, so it's not like that pairing was a dud. And those guys actually like each other

[King_Slender]

Before this week, I had not heard of the Reed signing Spieth's neck thing - I just watched the video and it seems like something a buddy would do to another buddy. Maybe Reed completely misinterpreted his relationship with Spieth, but if that and his comment on the drop is what broke that partnership up, that is as petty as it gets from Spieth.

 

It was easy for Spieth to pair with his biddy JT, knowing JT could carry the team, if needed. Note, he didn't ask to be paired with Rickie, who has been a lackluster RC player. I don't know why Furyk would fall on the sword and break them up - he should have told Jordan to suck it up and play with Reed and we'd have been a much more balanced team if JT could have paired with someone else.

[FargoRC]

It is hilarious that Reed shoots what amounts to an 80+ and it is Tiger that is apologizing to him. You might not want to run the one guy over with a bus that gave you a shot Patrick, especially a man that will be selecting a Ryder Cup team of his own.

[heavy_hitter]

All parties involved were right an wrong.

 

Spieth needs to have thicker skin. He and Reed are arguably the best USA pairing ever.

Furyk showed that he was a horrible choice for a team Captain. Thought he would be from the time he was announced.

Reed needs to stop crying. I agree with some of what he was saying more than the other two. He should had not been left out of the morning sessions. However, he was paired with his childhood idol. Shut your mouth, hit good shots and carry Tiger.

[Bunker2Bunker0no]

Let's examine Reed's other partner here...wife Justine. All from public articles...she enters his life and completely cuts him off from his parents and sister, even barred them from attending their wedding. She further isolates him by being his only caddie until she gets pregnant and then brings in her brother to take the job. His parents try to reach out to Patrick but he continues to shut them out, so decide to try by showing up at US Open at Pinehust in hopes of talking to him, and she has Security/Police remove them from the crowd. Any wonder the guy has problems developing a relationship in a team room??? He hasn't had but one relationship in last 7-8yrs of his like. So her jumping in on "Tweeter" only surprises me in the fact that she didn't grab a mic and do it during the team press conference...call CSI and ask them to dust for fingerprints and see which member of the Reed twosome dialed the NY Times last night..."Here Patrick, tell the nice lady how that awful teacher Mr Furyk and Jordan were so mean to you this week."

[King_Slender]

Am I the only one who thinks it was the right move to split them up? If Spieth was totally against it, then I have to believe there would be no chemistry on the golf course to warrant pairing them together "for the better of the team". I think that would have been an even worse disaster.

 

It's obvious that Reed's ego is driving his actions and have been for some time. He seems to constantly be searching for respect and approval. He comes off as an a#% and spoiled brat that is saying "Look at me....look at how great I am!" It must kill him that he is not on the same level as a Jordan Spieth. His wife doesn't help things any with her comments and continually defending him. Some people are just so delusional to the point that they live in their own little bubble never believing they do anything wrong...

 

- Josh

 

I actually look at it the opposite way. I don't think of Reed as a brat, but as a guy who is never given the respect he deserves and is continually looked down upon by the "cool kids table." He's not on that inside circle with Jordan, JT, and Rickie and Spieth getting pissed about the neck signing was his way of telling Reed "you're not one of us."

 

I think this bodes horribly for the future of the US Ryder Cup if Reed and Spieth continue to be on the team - there will always be "team Jordan" and then Reed on the outside. Reed needs another hot head like Bradley or Horschel to start making the team to pair with. He needs someone that matches his fire for the event.

[SullGolf]

Maybe Reed completely misinterpreted his relationship with Spieth, but if that and his comment on the drop is what broke that partnership up, that is as petty as it gets from Spieth.

 

 

That's how I see the situation. Reed was making jokes that friends would make. Except they aren't friends. Jordan was tolerating him and then got sick of it. I know nothing about how they interact in private, so I could be totally wrong about that, but that's the vibe I get.

[jmck]

Let's examine Reed's other partner here...wife Justine. All from public articles...she enters his life and completely cuts him off from his parents and sister, even barred them from attending their wedding. She further isolates him by being his only caddie until she gets pregnant and then brings in her brother to take the job. His parents try to reach out to Patrick but he continues to shut them out, so decide to try by showing up at US Open at Pinehust in hopes of talking to him, and she has Security/Police remove them from the crowd. Any wonder the guy has problems developing a relationship in a team room??? He hasn't had but one relationship in last 7-8yrs of his like. So her jumping in on "Tweeter" only surprises me in the fact that she didn't grab a mic and do it during the team press conference...call CSI and ask them to dust for fingerprints and see which member of the Reed twosome dialed the NY Times last night..."Here Patrick, tell the nice lady how that awful teacher Mr Furyk and Jordan were so mean to you this week."

 

You know what else cracks me up about those Justine tweets.

 

She's all "FAKE NEWS" about the Golf Channel and media in general.

 

...while insisting that mean old Spieth broke up the "most winning pairing in American History"...

 

which is factually incorrect, as that honor belongs to Arnold Palmer and Gardiner Dickinson.

 

 

Gotta love that! She even works in a randomly capitalized "H" for the full effect! Just phenomenal stuff from Justine. Top of her game for sure.

[The General]

off topic but the Rickie/DJ pairing was terrible

[Holy Moses]

Maybe Reed completely misinterpreted his relationship with Spieth, but if that and his comment on the drop is what broke that partnership up, that is as petty as it gets from Spieth.

 

 

That's how I see the situation. Reed was making jokes that friends would make. Except they aren't friends. Jordan was tolerating him and then got sick of it. I know nothing about how they interact in private, so I could be totally wrong about that, but that's the vibe I get.

 

I think the “jokes” were mostly jokes but there was some jealousy there too. Reed was jealous that Spieth is the golden child and probably a little peeved that Spieth thinks that every little hairy situation on a golf course should go his way. Reed wanted the world to know that his play mostly supported Spieth’s Ryder Cup/Presidents Cup record too.

[Ghost of Snead]

Maybe Reed completely misinterpreted his relationship with Spieth, but if that and his comment on the drop is what broke that partnership up, that is as petty as it gets from Spieth.

 

 

That's how I see the situation. Reed was making jokes that friends would make. Except they aren't friends. Jordan was tolerating him and then got sick of it. I know nothing about how they interact in private, so I could be totally wrong about that, but that's the vibe I get.

 

Yep, never will be friends and there's probably more to it than just the neck writing and Bay Hill drop. If I were Stricker/Phil/Tiger, I'd be thinking about who else might work with Reed and forget about salvaging that pairing.

[the bishop]

Let's examine Reed's other partner here...wife Justine. All from public articles...she enters his life and completely cuts him off from his parents and sister, even barred them from attending their wedding. She further isolates him by being his only caddie until she gets pregnant and then brings in her brother to take the job. His parents try to reach out to Patrick but he continues to shut them out, so decide to try by showing up at US Open at Pinehust in hopes of talking to him, and she has Security/Police remove them from the crowd. Any wonder the guy has problems developing a relationship in a team room??? He hasn't had but one relationship in last 7-8yrs of his like. So her jumping in on "Tweeter" only surprises me in the fact that she didn't grab a mic and do it during the team press conference...call CSI and ask them to dust for fingerprints and see which member of the Reed twosome dialed the NY Times last night..."Here Patrick, tell the nice lady how that awful teacher Mr Furyk and Jordan were so mean to you this week."

 

You know what else cracks me up about those Justine tweets.

 

She's all "FAKE NEWS" about the Golf Channel and media in general.

 

...while insisting that mean old Spieth broke up the "most winning pairing in American History"...

 

which is factually incorrect, as that honor belongs to Arnold Palmer and Gardiner Dickinson.

 

 

Gotta love that! She even works in a randomly capitalized "H" for the full effect! Just phenomenal stuff from Justine. Top of her game for sure.

Well on top of that, according to this: https://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/report-reed-wife-wont-confirm-deny-tweets/ when she was approached by a Golf.com reporter and asked if those tweets were actually from her and her account her reply was "I can't really say. I don't know." How can you not know? If you're gonna start, or try to start, a dumpster fire own up to it for crying out loud.

[WidespreadPanic]

He shot in the 80’s on saturday!!! And he’s pissed he sat? He played with Tiger freakin woods. His childhood hero. All of this stems from him playing like complete dogsh*t.

 

Wife Justine definitely called the NYT and told Pat to talk. Though I’m sure he had no problem doing it. She is the root of a lot of issues. She’s just got to go.

[Dave230]

off topic but the Rickie/DJ pairing was terrible

 

Thought that was a strange pairing to persist with instead of Koepka/DJ. Not sure Fowler and DJ have ever really been close, the only real similarity being that they're both laid-back.

[drn92]

Maybe Reed completely misinterpreted his relationship with Spieth, but if that and his comment on the drop is what broke that partnership up, that is as petty as it gets from Spieth.

 

 

That's how I see the situation. Reed was making jokes that friends would make. Except they aren't friends. Jordan was tolerating him and then got sick of it. I know nothing about how they interact in private, so I could be totally wrong about that, but that's the vibe I get.

 

My friends don’t throw me under the bus in public by complaining about a ruling, complaining about carrying me, or signing my neck with a Sharpie.

 

Reed may have some social issues, but my bet would be that people simply don’t like him.

 

drn92

[jmck]

off topic but the Rickie/DJ pairing was terrible

 

Neither of them played well all week. DJ has his moments in team play, but the way he hit the ball in singles he should've lost something like 6&5, but he made 3 50+ footers to keep it close.

[DRRicks]

off topic but the Rickie/DJ pairing was terrible

 

Agreed! What in the hell happened to DJ/Koepka???

[Nick6771]

All this could have been avoided if someone had sorted him out nice seats at Fenway.....

[WidespreadPanic]

off topic but the Rickie/DJ pairing was terrible

 

Agreed! What in the hell happened to DJ/Koepka???

I agree. I didn’t understand it from the get go. If people think DJ-Brooks is a mellow pairing, DJ-Rickie is a zombie fest. Rickie has to be the most emotionless and zombie type player on the tour.

[jmck]

Let's examine Reed's other partner here...wife Justine. All from public articles...she enters his life and completely cuts him off from his parents and sister, even barred them from attending their wedding. She further isolates him by being his only caddie until she gets pregnant and then brings in her brother to take the job. His parents try to reach out to Patrick but he continues to shut them out, so decide to try by showing up at US Open at Pinehust in hopes of talking to him, and she has Security/Police remove them from the crowd. Any wonder the guy has problems developing a relationship in a team room??? He hasn't had but one relationship in last 7-8yrs of his like. So her jumping in on "Tweeter" only surprises me in the fact that she didn't grab a mic and do it during the team press conference...call CSI and ask them to dust for fingerprints and see which member of the Reed twosome dialed the NY Times last night..."Here Patrick, tell the nice lady how that awful teacher Mr Furyk and Jordan were so mean to you this week."

 

You know what else cracks me up about those Justine tweets.

 

She's all "FAKE NEWS" about the Golf Channel and media in general.

 

...while insisting that mean old Spieth broke up the "most winning pairing in American History"...

 

which is factually incorrect, as that honor belongs to Arnold Palmer and Gardiner Dickinson.

 

 

Gotta love that! She even works in a randomly capitalized "H" for the full effect! Just phenomenal stuff from Justine. Top of her game for sure.

Well on top of that, according to this: https://www.golfchan...rm-deny-tweets/ when she was approached by a Golf.com reporter and asked if those tweets were actually from her and her account her reply was "I can't really say. I don't know." How can you not know? If you're gonna start, or try to start, a dumpster fire own up to it for crying out loud.

 

Yeah, I caught that too. And thus the cycle of crying "FAKE NEWS" (or blaming other people) while not taking responsibility for your own actions (or shooting 85) is complete.

[new2g0lf]

All this could have been avoided if someone had sorted him out nice seats at Fenway.....

 

I bet Spieth didn't want Reed sitting near him at the game /sarcasm

[new2g0lf]

Let's examine Reed's other partner here...wife Justine. All from public articles...she enters his life and completely cuts him off from his parents and sister, even barred them from attending their wedding. She further isolates him by being his only caddie until she gets pregnant and then brings in her brother to take the job. His parents try to reach out to Patrick but he continues to shut them out, so decide to try by showing up at US Open at Pinehust in hopes of talking to him, and she has Security/Police remove them from the crowd. Any wonder the guy has problems developing a relationship in a team room??? He hasn't had but one relationship in last 7-8yrs of his like. So her jumping in on "Tweeter" only surprises me in the fact that she didn't grab a mic and do it during the team press conference...call CSI and ask them to dust for fingerprints and see which member of the Reed twosome dialed the NY Times last night..."Here Patrick, tell the nice lady how that awful teacher Mr Furyk and Jordan were so mean to you this week."

 

If this is accurate then Reed needs to get some help. I have a few family members that married individuals as described here and it cost them everything, their family, their friends, their jobs. Divisive people like this aren't satisfied until it's the 2 of them against everyone.

[dlygrisse]

We need to hear Spieth’s side of the story. However, I do agree with Reed about playing more because he lives for this moment similar to Poulter.

 

Furyk was a bad captain with questionable pairings and that is undeniable given the results. Yes, players have to play, but captains have to captain too. This was a complete failure on all accounts.

 

Agreed, you have to play Reed over Tiger at least one of those sessions, Tiger had zero energy and drug the team down.

[bouche03]

Man, as someone who has always tried to defend Reed, this is a tough one. It's clear that he lacks social skills and does not have a filter. It's difficult to defend his behavior, especially since he doesn't seem to be learning from his mistakes. I spent 30+ years in a team locker room, including 10 as a professional hockey player, and have seen Reed-like personalities many times. Unfortunately, on an actual team, when you have someone like Reed, they would usually get put into their place and forced to buck up by the captain or older veteran players, or would be shipped off/traded/waived. You conform to the team and what the team is doing or if you are a CANCER, as we called it, you were gone faster than your head could spin. Golf, being such an individual sport, with the exception of events like the PC and RC, simply don't have the mechanism in place. If you are a D-Bag/Cancer, you are just an outcast on tour, which clearly Reed is. No one seems to like him. If he was playing a team sport, he wouldn't be on the team or he would be doing the team thing and conforming. Maybe he mistook his relationship with Spieth as a friendship...who knows; obviously none of us are privy to the details of what that looks like. But I would imagine if any of you, myself included, merely tolerated someone in a social setting, and then heard of them making disparaging comments about carrying me in a competition (whether you did carry him or not, you don't publicly say that), or insinuating preferential treatment during a ruling on tour, and then ice the cake by signing my neck/back, I would shut that person out and be done with them. Who does that? I can't imagine signing Jordan's neck as anything BUT a form of showing the guy up/bullying UNLESS they were tight buddies, and it was a prank, which clearly isn't the case with their relationship, and by Jordan's reaction to him while he did it; he just stood there. Imagine if JT, Rickie, DJ etc has done that? Jordan would have laughed etc etc. Just my two cents as someone that has seen this stuff inside a locker room daily for 30yrs of my life. There's always some bad apples. Whether those guys stick around the team could always be controlled by management, but no so much in this setting/competition. Remember the Fenway fiasco? I think guys don't like him and don't want to be around him, unfortunately.

[Hawkeye77]

"This Reed stuff is boring me, back to Morning Drive and my buddy Robert Damron!"

[sjugolf64]

I don't get all the hate for Spieth on this one. We don't know how that conversation went about playing with Reed. Could have been as simple as "who do you want to play with?" and he answered JT. Pairing worked and they went 3-1. Will be a solid team for years to come.

 

Reed (f/k/a Capital America) should be able to win with anyone given how good he thinks he is. His play was just plain horrible in the team formats. Just suck it up and say "I played poorly and that's why I lost and didn't play 5 matches", but we all know his ego is too big for that. I don't put any blame on Furyk for not having the Spieth/Reed pairing. I thought both the new pairing were solid. Reed and Tiger just didn't play well and got beat. Simple as that.

[bscinstnct]

This little incident is a great example of why the US squads lose more than they should.

 

The Euros win or lose together as a team, simple as that.

 

When the Americans win they claim they won as a team, but when they lose boy oh boy do the knives come out.

 

Euro's be like,

 

 

 

 

Muricans be like,

 

[FKA HB]

Too many nice guys on the US squad. Not enough Reeds. "Low T" Furyk is probably the worst choice for a captain possible.

[Hawkeye77]

We need to hear Spieth’s side of the story. However, I do agree with Reed about playing more because he lives for this moment similar to Poulter.

 

Furyk was a bad captain with questionable pairings and that is undeniable given the results. Yes, players have to play, but captains have to captain too. This was a complete failure on all accounts.

 

Agreed, you have to play Reed over Tiger at least one of those sessions, Tiger had zero energy and drug the team down.

 

Or put Tony with Tiger, get after it! Would have made a lot more sense than sending out a guy who was barely breaking 90 when Tiger wasn't playing great, but maybe just needed a lift, and played a lot better than Reed. Or sat them both.

[Ghost of Snead]

Man, as someone who has always tried to defend Reed, this is a tough one. It's clear that he lacks social skills and does not have a filter. It's difficult to defend his behavior, especially since he doesn't seem to be learning from his mistakes. I spent 30+ years in a team locker room, including 10 as a professional hockey player, and have seen Reed-like personalities many times. Unfortunately, on an actual team, when you have someone like Reed, they would usually get put into their place and forced to buck up by the captain or older veteran players, or would be shipped off/traded/waived. You conform to the team and what the team is doing or if you are a CANCER, as we called it, you were gone faster than your head could spin. Golf, being such an individual sport, with the exception of events like the PC and RC, simply don't have the mechanism in place. If you are a D-Bag/Cancer, you are just an outcast on tour, which clearly Reed is. No one seems to like him. If he was playing a team sport, he wouldn't be on the team or he would be doing the team thing and conforming. Maybe he mistook his relationship with Spieth as a friendship...who knows; obviously none of us are privy to the details of what that looks like. But I would imagine if any of you, myself included, merely tolerated someone in a social setting, and then heard of them making disparaging comments about carrying me in a competition (whether you did carry him or not, you don't publicly say that), or insinuating preferential treatment during a ruling on tour, and then ice the cake by signing my neck/back, I would shut that person out and be done with them. Who does that? I can't imagine signing Jordan's neck as anything BUT a form of showing the guy up/bullying UNLESS they were tight buddies, and it was a prank, which clearly isn't the case with their relationship, and by Jordan's reaction to him while he did it; he just stood there. Imagine if JT, Rickie, DJ etc has done that? Jordan would have laughed etc etc. Just my two cents as someone that has seen this stuff inside a locker room daily for 30yrs of my life. There's always some bad apples. Whether those guys stick around the team could always be controlled by management, but no so much in this setting/competition. Remember the Fenway fiasco? I think guys don't like him and don't want to be around him, unfortunately.

 

The only sure way to remove any cancer would be to eliminate automatic qualifying and let the next captain pick all 12 players.