Jump to content

Prov1 experts need your help


Recommended Posts

Recently picked up some 2016 Prov1s for a great price on Ebay .

 

The ad showed the box was sealed in plastic ( interesting but maybe the store they came from did that for theft )

 

 

Upon opening the box something was off on them .

 

the balls appeared to be off in color whiter than the normal Prov1 color and the alignment aid is a darker shade of grey .

 

The cover feels like a 2 piece Surlyn gollf ball cover not a softer urethane cover.

 

never heard of a fake Prov1 golf ball so maybe they were refinished and sold as new ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 29
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Sealed? Whoa....

 

It could be lighting but the ball (right) looks smaller, dimple pattern isn't as prominent and logo seems off.

 

I'd say refinished but also be interested if fake Pro V1's exist...?

 

- KC

Ping G400 Max 10.5* (@9.5) w/Mitsubishi Tensei Raw Blue 65x
TaylorMade Sim Ti 15* w/UST Mamiya VTS Tour SPX Silver 7x 

Titleist 816H1 19* (C1) w/Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 80x

Titleist 816H1 21* (B1) w/Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 80x
Mizuno MP-25 4-7 w/TT DG X100 (ProSoft Inserts) 

Titleist 620 MB 8-PW w/TT DG Sensicore X100
Ping Glide 3.0 54SS/60TS w/Ping Z-Z115 Wedge 
Odyssey White Hot OG #7 (3*/70*/35")

Titleist Pro V1 (2020)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Mate in my 4ball says he got re- painted balls .. did they sell as refurbished?

 

 

The Ebay ad cleary stated Prov1 balls brand new in box.

 

Maybe the seller picked them up sealed from somebody trying to pass them off as new ?

 

Sent the seller a message and told them I need a refund and return shipping label.

 

Bought a lot of Prov1s off Ebay and this is the first time I have had an issue .

 

Sad thing is a casual golfer would not notice anything was wrong .

 

Guess years of playing the Prov helped me see something was not right as soon as I opened the sleeve.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't have to look too hard to find the 2015 fake ProVs; they have been around for a while. But note the second link below — fake 2017 Pro V1/x are out there too.

 

https://www.dhgate.com/product/good-quality-new-2015-style-prov1-2013-style/396493343.html#s1-5-7b;searl|0273496980

 

https://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dhl-golf-pro-v1-v1x-golf-balls-club-clubs/430655499.html#s1-4-1b;searl|0849801699

Clubs: Ping G400 Max • Callaway 816 5w • Ping i25 3-W • Ping Rustique 50* & 58* • Betti BB1 Short Slant
Shafts: Aldila Rogue White 60x • PX 8B4 • DGTI x100 • DG s300
Balls: Titleist Pro V1 • Srixon Z Star XV
Link to post
Share on other sites

Contacted the seller to get a refund and mentioned that the balls are not authentic . let's see what they say .

 

Worst case I can file a claim with Paypal but may need advice to file it , item not as described ?

 

Did not realize how may fakes are out there , especially looking at the packaging that looks so close .

Link to post
Share on other sites

I have bought tons of Pro V1s off eBay without problem, then one time got 11 dozen from a guy. I knew instantly they were fakes.

 

Most of the dozens were shrink wrapped. The boxes felt thinner to me, which I proved by putting them next to a regular box. I took two balls out and juggled them in my hand (heyo!) and the sound was just off, like they were from a toy store or something. The Titleist scripting was just a smidge off. And on the box, there were suspect markings like unusual bar codes and in some places they even said Pro V1x. But you had to really read closely, and not many people read boxes anymore. I'd venture to say 95 percent of casual golfers wouldn't have known the difference until they were put in play.

 

I ripped the guy to shreds in a message but he swore he didn't know they were fakes. He sent me a return shipping label and gave me a full refund, so it was a happy ending. But I'm much more slow to buy balls in bulk now unless I can do background work on the seller beforehand.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know man. Small differences in the finish coloring isn't pure evidence of a counterfeit product.

Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
Ping Glide 55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"

Link to post
Share on other sites

hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.

915D2 Rogue Silver 60S
915F Rogue Black 80S
915H Rogue Black 85S
712u 4i Recoil F4 110
714 AP2 5-PW Nippon Modus3 Tour 105x
SM6 51.08F | 56.08M | 60.10S
Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec 33/350G
restoration on my Mil-Spec

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know man. Small differences in the finish coloring isn't pure evidence of a counterfeit product.

 

With a Pro V1 it is. Been to the ball plant, the QC is insane.

Epic Flash 🔷🔷🔷 10.5* Hzrdus Hulk Smoke 6.5TX
Nike Vapor Fly 3HL Matrix 8M2
Titleist 910HD Fuji HB 90/Nike VFP 3 Fuji P95X
T-MB 4 C-Taper 130X

T-MB 5 PX LS 7.0
6-PW VR Pro CB/MB Raw Combo PX LS 7.0
Vokey TVD 52/58 KBS Tour 130X
PM Grind 64 KBS Tour 130X
Studio Design 1.5 Circle T/Arm Lock Double Wide

Link to post
Share on other sites

hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.

 

 

Will keep you guys updated on how the seller handles this.

 

Would love to cut one in half myself, pretty sure the balls I got would look like the fake ones cut open I have seen , clearly a two piece golf ball.

 

Glad to hear from somebody that visited the plant as I have never seen a new ball that the color and cover are so different from a real Prov1.

 

Have bought many ProVs on Ebay this is the first time I have gotten burned .

 

Note to self , if they are in a plastic wrapper stay away lol !

Link to post
Share on other sites

hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.

 

 

Will keep you guys updated on how the seller handles this.

 

Would love to cut one in half myself, pretty sure the balls I got would look like the fake ones cut open I have seen , clearly a two piece golf ball.

 

Glad to hear from somebody that visited the plant as I have never seen a new ball that the color and cover are so different from a real Prov1.

 

Have bought many ProVs on Ebay this is the first time I have gotten burned .

 

Note to self , if they are in a plastic wrapper stay away lol !

 

After I was burned with fakes, I started asking sellers for pictures of the sides of the box if I had any doubts. Once you see a fake box, you'll know the difference in a snap.

Link to post
Share on other sites

hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.

 

 

Will keep you guys updated on how the seller handles this.

 

Would love to cut one in half myself, pretty sure the balls I got would look like the fake ones cut open I have seen , clearly a two piece golf ball.

 

Glad to hear from somebody that visited the plant as I have never seen a new ball that the color and cover are so different from a real Prov1.

 

Have bought many ProVs on Ebay this is the first time I have gotten burned .

 

Note to self , if they are in a plastic wrapper stay away lol !

 

After I was burned with fakes, I started asking sellers for pictures of the sides of the box if I had any doubts. Once you see a fake box, you'll know the difference in a snap.

 

 

 

That is a great idea as you see a picture where the box looks good from more of a distance.

 

Will have to keep that in mind .thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites
hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.
Will keep you guys updated on how the seller handles this. Would love to cut one in half myself, pretty sure the balls I got would look like the fake ones cut open I have seen , clearly a two piece golf ball. Glad to hear from somebody that visited the plant as I have never seen a new ball that the color and cover are so different from a real Prov1. Have bought many ProVs on Ebay this is the first time I have gotten burned . Note to self , if they are in a plastic wrapper stay away lol !
After I was burned with fakes, I started asking sellers for pictures of the sides of the box if I had any doubts. Once you see a fake box, you'll know the difference in a snap.
That is a great idea as you see a picture where the box looks good from more of a distance. Will have to keep that in mind .thanks

 

No idea how far you want to go with this, but you can report this to Titleist with this form and they will pursue it further.

 

https://www.titleist...terfeit-product

Contents of bag subject to change...frequently 

Link to post
Share on other sites
hopefully you get refunded and the seller says keep them. would like to see the inside of one of them.
Will keep you guys updated on how the seller handles this. Would love to cut one in half myself, pretty sure the balls I got would look like the fake ones cut open I have seen , clearly a two piece golf ball. Glad to hear from somebody that visited the plant as I have never seen a new ball that the color and cover are so different from a real Prov1. Have bought many ProVs on Ebay this is the first time I have gotten burned . Note to self , if they are in a plastic wrapper stay away lol !
After I was burned with fakes, I started asking sellers for pictures of the sides of the box if I had any doubts. Once you see a fake box, you'll know the difference in a snap.
That is a great idea as you see a picture where the box looks good from more of a distance. Will have to keep that in mind .thanks

 

No idea how far you want to go with this, but you can report this to Titleist with this form and they will pursue it further.

 

https://www.titleist...terfeit-product

take it to the house!

Radspeed 8, 13.5, 17.5/hzrdusgreentx 

Radspeed 21/tz4100m5+
Utility one length 4,5 iron/x7 37”

Forged one length 5-pw/x7 wedge

Hi toe 54*11, 64*5/s400 wedge

Sik pro c/lagolf armlock

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have not heard back from the seller . should I open a claim with Paypal or Ebay , which is more effective ? thanks

 

Ebay. Go ahead and open a claim and get the ball rolling.

 

 

I opened up a return claim with Ebay for a full refund and stated I will not pay for return shipping.

 

Time to sit back and see what the seller says .

Link to post
Share on other sites

Slight differences in the tinting of the paint on a ball that's more than two years old is not clear evidence of fraudulent activity. What does the box look like? Is it pristine and does the graphics match up exactly like the real Titleist box? How about some photos?

Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
Ping Glide 55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"

Link to post
Share on other sites

Slight differences in the tinting of the paint on a ball that's more than two years old is not clear evidence of fraudulent activity. What does the box look like? Is it pristine and does the graphics match up exactly like the real Titleist box? How about some photos?

 

 

The box looked pretty close to the ones I had , like one of the other poster said the upc codes looked different , at a quick glance.

 

Big thing for me was not the color of the balls but he fact that you could easily tell the cover looks and feels like a 2 piece Surlyn ball.

 

In addition to the cover dimple pattern is different along with the color of the alignment aid which does not vary on the authentic balls I have.

 

They may have been refinished as somebody suggested which is fine if that is what you were expecting to purchase not brand new never used.

 

The authentic version did not come wrapped in plastic , which seems like somebody tried to hard to fool us.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In addition to the other obvious signs, the 3rd t in titleist looks off, as does the spacing between "Title" and "ist". That aint a horse with zebra stripes.

 

And refurbs are (legally, I think?) supposed to clearly note that they are refurbs. So either way someone is trying to pull a fast one, I'd definitely start the claim process.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I mean, it's obvious these are fake. Besides the script and printing, just look at the dimples. They are spaced differently and more shallow.

Clubs: Ping G400 Max • Callaway 816 5w • Ping i25 3-W • Ping Rustique 50* & 58* • Betti BB1 Short Slant
Shafts: Aldila Rogue White 60x • PX 8B4 • DGTI x100 • DG s300
Balls: Titleist Pro V1 • Srixon Z Star XV
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Our picks

    • 2021 RBC Heritage - discussions and links
      Please post any questions and comments here.
       
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #1
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #2
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #3
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #4
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #5
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #6
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #7
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #8
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #9
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #10
       

       
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #1
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #2
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #3
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #4
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #5
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #6
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #7
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #8
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #9
      2021 RBC Heritage - Tuesday #10
       
       

       
      Custom Cameron putters - 2021 RBC Heritage
      Bettinardi putter - 2021 RBC Heritage
      Robert Streb's custom stamped Vokey wedge - 2021 RBC Heritage
      Ben An's custom stamped Vokey - 2021 RBC Heritage
      • 17 replies
    • 2021 Valero Texas Open - discussion & links
      Please put any questions or comments here. 
       
      This week, the PGA Tour is at TPC San Antonio on the Oaks Course for the Valero Texas Open. GolfWRX was on-site Tuesday to catch a glimpse into the bags of some of the world’s top golfers.
       
      The field of 144 is getting ready to battle starting Thursday for the $7.7 million purse, with $1.386 million going to the winner. The tournament is also the last event where players can qualify for The Masters, just like Canadian Corey Conners did last year.
       
      Check out our "Most interesting photos" Part 1, and Part 2.
       

       
      2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #1 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #2 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #3 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #4 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #5 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #6 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #7 2021 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #8  


       
      Cameron putters (added Bernd Wiesberger's custom T-11) -2021 Valero Texas Open Piretti putters -2021 Valero Texas Open Branden Grace testing AutoFlex shaft @ 2021 Valero Texas Open  
      Check out our "Most interesting photos" Part 1, and Part 2.
       

       
        • Like
      • 29 replies
    • **GIVEAWAY** Odyssey Ten Triple Track Putter! ENTER NOW!
      NEW Odyssey Ten Triple Track putter giveaway!!!.To enter reply in this thread that you're IN!
       
      That's it. You'll be entered into the giveaway (one entry per person). Winner chosen at random in two weeks. Be sure to check out the attached pics. Good luck!
       
      If you are not a member her please register here to allow you to reply to this post and enter. Registration is free... https://forums.golfwrx.com/register/
      ======================================================================================================
      We randomize all the number of posts and the #1 number on the top is the winner. Say there is 1,000 replies from members. We will randomize 1 to 1,000 using a website that has a randomizer. It scrambles the numbers and the #1 is the first place and the #2 is the second etc. If the winner has duplicate entries we count the first
       





       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1,599 replies
    • 2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - discussion and links
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       

       
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #1
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #2
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #3
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #4
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #5
      2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Monday #6
       
       

       
      Hideki testing putters at WGC Dell Technologies Match Play
      Odyssey/Toulon Atlanta putter - 2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play
      Cameron putters - 2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play
      Patrick Reed testing TPT shafts 2021 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play
       
       
      • 54 replies
    • 2021 Players - discussion and links
      Please post any questions or comments here
       
       

       
      2021 Players - Monday #1
      2021 Players - Monday #2
      2021 Players - Monday #3
      2021 Players - Monday #4
      2021 Players - Tuesday #1
      2021 Players - Tuesday #2
      2021 Players - Tuesday #3
      2021 Players - Tuesday #4
      2021 Players - Tuesday #5
      2021 Players - Tuesday #6
       
       

       
      Maverick McNealy's custom 1 of 1 Callaway Apex MB irons - 2021 Players
      Adam Long's Cameron T-5 proto - 2021 Players
      Abraham Ancer's custom Muira irons and custom MMT shafts - 2021 Players
      Bettinardi putters & cover - 2021 Players
      Jon Rahm's bag - 2021 Players
      Xander Schauffele's bag - 2021 Players
      Sergio with a Cameron putter - 2021 Players
      Cameron T11 & 11.5 putters - 2021 Players
      Sergio Garcia's clubs - 2021 Players
      Scott Brown's Odyssey gamer - 2021 Players
       
       
       
      • 52 replies

×
×
  • Create New...