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I go driver then 2 hybrid . I rarely used the 3 wood so I just took it out .

 

Our course sometimes hosts the PGA Player Ability Tests. Last summer, I played a round with a young pro practicing round for his PAT. He carried a 2H and 4H as his bridge clubs between driver and irons. He had the distance to get home in two on two of our four Par 5 holes using his 2H.

 

The FW | driving iron | hybrid mix depends in part on how you come into the ball. The trick is to find what works for you.

 

I have sub-90 MPH driver speed, and I have been happy the last six seasons using 4W + 7W. For a long hitter wanting a single FW, a 4W may be more versatile than a 3W.

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If you play with what I consider to be proper strategy, most courses will require you to hit a couple of 3w off the tee during any given round. As such, I view it as an extremely valuable club. At least 75% of my 3w usage is off the tee, so that's what I'm optimizing for when selecting the 3w to put in the bag. I often sacrifice something from off the turf performance to ensure the club is optimal off the tee.

 

I dabbled with replacing the 3w with a 1 or 2 hybrid a number of years ago, but found I hit them significantly worse off the tee than a 3w.

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15 3wood

2 driving iron or 19 degree hybrid

4 iron

 

I think the balls are so good and don’t spin a ton. I like having enough loft to fling the ball up into the air off the turf and want to be able to hit a fade with 3 wood into par 5s. I use the 2 iron more off the tee because it’s like a security blanket on tight holes. Either way all the gaps hit trying to keep it simple as possible.

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I swap out between a 3 wood, 19deg hybrid and 18deg 2 iron. All depends on the course type, length of course and wind for the day.

When I was a younger spring chicken and could pump drives beyond eye sight I just carried Driver and then 1 iron to LW.

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The easiest way to answer that question is to take it out of your bag and see how you go. I cracked the head of my 3w recently and had 3-4 rounds without it while waiting for a replacement. While it wasn't a terrible option to hit a driver or hybrid/DI on tee shots, the mental side of bringing trouble into play or hitting longer approach shots put pressure on my game. Not going for a few longer par 5s wasn't much fun either. There's a couple courses I play with severe doglegs that you need to bend the ball both ways, and I feel most comfortable with the 3w. Ultimately, if you find a good 3w there's a good reason to hold onto it.

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Isn’t brooks koepka sporting a 4 wood?

 

Love my 3 wood. Anecdotally, you never see anyone on tour without one. Anecdotally (part 2) ~ one of my best golf partners plus a 4w after his driver. Guess it’s all personal preference ;-)

 

Naw. Brooks is 3 wood. If it’s under 17 degrees I consider it 3 wood also.

 

I def know one or two 270 to 280 yard hitters not playing a 3 wood. I have never met or seen someone that can hit it above 280 not carry one.

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I'm grappling with this very question right now, and one of my off-season goals is to decide once and for all if I can still hit a 3W well enough to justify carrying one.

 

I've already ditched the 5W because I hit a 2H just as far (or farther) and MUCH more consistently. But there are enough holes around where driver off the tee is too much that I still carry a 3W for just that. I've sort of evolved to where I almost never hit the 3W off the ground because the 2H is just too easy.

 

That said, it dawned on me during an end-of-the-year senior tournament last week that I was giving up yards on par 5's to guys that were hitting a 3W when I was hitting a 2H, and the difference between hitting a PW vs an 8 iron on the third shot is significant. More to the point, I realized that I've pretty much stopped practicing hitting the 3W off the ground.

 

So for the winter: Bought a Ping G400 16* SFT 3W to replace my Titleist, and I'm going to hit a LOT of 3W's mixed in with the rest of my practice sessions; one or two between every club change. I'm going to hit the club when I play even if it costs me strokes from mishits. After enough time, I should find out.

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I average around 280 off the tee and go driver-4 wood-21h. I am playing around with a 3 iron for next season but I'm not comfortable hitting an iron lower than that.

I drive 275-280 and bag a 3W (240-250 yards) and 3H (210-225 yards).

As far as carry goes, these are my optimal distances. Although I try to tighten up my hybrid carry a bit more if I can, this is pretty ideal for me. I miiiiiight move to more of a 4w/ high launch 3w set up because I might be moving to trad player lofts this year which will create a bit too much gap between the hybrid and 4i. Might try to raise the loft a bit on the hybrid and lower the lie to try and take a few yards off.

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I don't think it has to be a 3 wood, but it needs to be something that is a reliable alternative to your driver on holes where driver is too much club.

 

I'm trying to find that club right now. I found an Adams Super LS 3 wood for $10 recently at Golf Galaxy, and I really like it at times on the range, and the course, but there are days (like yesterday) where it gets me into trouble. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I'm not playing a lot of golf right now, and I can only practice once a week. I can elevate it off the deck when I strike it well, but I'm not striking much of anything well right now.

 

The most consistent "3 wood" that I've ever had was a 15* Adams XTD Super Hybrid with a Proforce V2 hybrid shaft. I stupidly got rid of it because I wanted a 3 wood that I could hit farther. Looking back, I hit that club almost as far as most 3 woods out there today, and I had no issues elevating it off the deck. My issue is that it's really hard to find that club somewhere, so I'll keep the current Adams 3 wood until I can find something else.

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I haven't carried a 3w in many years. I've practiced a "geared down" driver shot for a long time and, for my game, it's unquestionably a more reliable than a 3w when I need to hit a less than full distance tee shot. Big clubface + easy swing generally produces a reliable result for me.

 

From the fairway, needing a club that is longer off the deck than my 2H just doesn't happen that often, certainly not often enough to replace the extra wedge I carry in its place.

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I haven’t hit a strong UT that’s as forgiving off the turf as a 3 wood, and while it’d be easier to get the UT and 3 wood closer together in terms of carry off the tee, I’m guessing most will hit a fairway wood further, with less spin and more carry.

 

Carry would be the operative word, I would think, in the thought process of opting for a UT over a 3W. Personally, I prefer to count on carry distance over total distance.

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For me, fairway woods might be the easiest clubs to hit, and long irons the most difficult. It doesn't make sense to ever carry a driving iron, unless always playing on tiny narrow, rock hard fairways with 30 mph cross winds. And even then I can lower my 3 wood loft and hit a lower trajectory just fine.

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Big fan of driving iron, but only if practice rounds, or ill ditch 5 wood for 3 iron in windy stuff

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The only 3 wood I have carried in years was a driver replacement. I use a 17 degree fairway wood. It is all I need. Easier to hit and I can get it out there 250. I don't play many courses that I need more than that.

 

The problem with lower lofted utility irons, is that it is hard to get them up in the air when hitting into greens. I like the height that I get from a fairway wood or hybrid. I usually only use my utility iron off the tee or if I can run the ball up to a green.

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I just went back to a Ping stretch 3 wood strictly for the tee box on tight par 4’s and/or windy days to keep flight down. I cannot hit a wood (or hybrid) off the deck for the life of me and I’m much more consistent with a long iron and laying up on long par 5’s. So, no need for a regular 3 wood for my game. While my current bag is under some changes, the next club after the stretch will be a stronger lofted 3/4i that goes about 210ish.

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I bag driver 3wood and 5wood at my home club. 3wood mainly off the tee on 2 holes. 2 holes I hit 5wood off the tee and one or two 2nd shots into 5pars depending on the wind. I could easily get rid of the 3wood. I have just carried a 16.5 or my 18 degree 5wood as my only fairway and added a gap wedge if im playing a different course.

My 5wood is a very dependable club that I can carry 240-245.

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I carry my driver decently over 280 and have recently questioned this exact situation. I much prefer my DI off the tee on tighter holes and rarely have an approach into a par 5 needing more than a long iron. Even if there were second shots that needed me to hit my 3 wood off the deck, I would not be able to hold the green. I've decided I'm keeping it in the bag and looking for one that goes a little higher. I'm not sure if that's more of me thinking I may need it if I play different courses or me feeling like a tool for my driver being my only head cover.

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I don't get the posts saying 'well pros have a 3-wood in their bag'. Most pros can hit their 3 wood as consistently and accurately as most amateurs hit their 8-iron.

 

For most amateurs a 3-wood off the deck is a low percentage shot. So it ends up being a 'safe' alternative off the tee or when a whole doesn't require a driver distance. As drivers became bigger and more forgiving and 5-woods became longer, that club got squeezed. A 4-wood became a good 'tweener' club for players, easier to hit off the deck and still a safe option off the tee.

 

I recently dropped down to a 5-wood. My PING 5-wood distance off the tee is fairly close to my old 4-wood. And it's even easier to hit off the deck. I can't think of a time where a 3-wood would have been a better option.

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This is such an individual issue, depending on your swing, your courses, the tees you play, etc.

 

Personally, I rarely hit into Par 5's in two or hit "less than driver" off the tee. Those aren't good probability plays for me because I'm a short hitter relative to the tees I play (tee monitors, don't bother - I'll move up a tee when my buddies move up, or start beating me from the tees we play now).

 

So I can play just fine without a fairway wood. Over the last couple years, I've given a number of them a fair shot, trying to find one that is definitively better (for my needs) than my 15* 909h hybrid. It hasn't happened yet.

 

I realize that if I played from shorter tees (IOW, if I was a longer hitter, effectively), I would probably need another tee club a lot more, and would be attacking more Par 5's in 2. So the theoretical advantages of a 3 wood might pay actual dividends.

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I don't get the posts saying 'well pros have a 3-wood in their bag'. Most pros can hit their 3 wood as consistently and accurately as most amateurs hit their 8-iron.

 

For most amateurs a 3-wood off the deck is a low percentage shot. So it ends up being a 'safe' alternative off the tee or when a whole doesn't require a driver distance. As drivers became bigger and more forgiving and 5-woods became longer, that club got squeezed. A 4-wood became a good 'tweener' club for players, easier to hit off the deck and still a safe option off the tee.

 

I recently dropped down to a 5-wood. My PING 5-wood distance off the tee is fairly close to my old 4-wood. And it's even easier to hit off the deck. I can't think of a time where a 3-wood would have been a better option.

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this topic has been a good read and given me much to consider.

I have several clubs that could fit into the three to five wood area.

while I like my 917F3 at 13.5*, I have a couple older Warbirds, a 3+ and a 4 that work well.

there's still that older Cally five FT that I just adore.

then I looked in my hybrid bag. holy cow. a 17,19, 20.

talk about options.

 

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I don't get the posts saying 'well pros have a 3-wood in their bag'. Most pros can hit their 3 wood as consistently and accurately as most amateurs hit their 8-iron.

 

For most amateurs a 3-wood off the deck is a low percentage shot. So it ends up being a 'safe' alternative off the tee or when a whole doesn't require a driver distance. As drivers became bigger and more forgiving and 5-woods became longer, that club got squeezed. A 4-wood became a good 'tweener' club for players, easier to hit off the deck and still a safe option off the tee.

 

I recently dropped down to a 5-wood. My PING 5-wood distance off the tee is fairly close to my old 4-wood. And it's even easier to hit off the deck. I can't think of a time where a 3-wood would have been a better option.

 

I say the pro thing because op is questioning the relevance of 3 wood. and I'm basically saying anyone that hits above 280 needs it, and all pros need it.

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