Golf records unlikely to ever be broken

[lowheel]

Tiger Woods

 

-14 for 14 closing after leading 3rd round in majors

 

This one is not true. YE Yang beat Tiger in the 2009 PGA when Tiger was leading after 3 rounds.

 

I think he means 14 in a row until that which is accurate.

[grm24]

Tiger's overall conversion rate when he held the lead after 54 holes.

 

One was in his rookie season, the other with yang in 2009, so from the time he won his first major in 1997 until he won his last in 2008 he never coughed up an outright lead.

 

Its a crazy conversion rate.

 

What was his conversion rate and How does that compare with others?

PGA Tour wise Tiger is 54-4 when holding outright/sharing the lead after 54 holes after winning the 2018 Tour Championship.

.... Is 43-2 after 54 holes when holding the lead outright after the third round on the PGA Tour.

.... And is 24 for 24 when holding a 3+ shot lead after the third round of a PGA Tour event.

 

Nobody else on the current PGA Tour is close to any of those numbers. I would like to see the same type of numbers as how Jack, Sam, BH, Byron, Arnie and other tour greats are in comparison.

 

Other than phil nobody has 25+ wins on tour so of course not

VJ has 34 PGA Tour wins. I was thinking more along the lines of the players winning percentage when leading not the number of times in that position. Nobody is close to Tiger using those numbers as well on a career basis.

[nikegal]

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned and apologies if it has but no Player in the history of the game has won as many times as Tiger did in his 20’s~ 46 victories. To give some clarity to that, Jack had 30 championships and Rory(McIlroy, not Sabbs?), Jordan & Jason have 29, COMBINED, with only Jordan under 27yo. Also, just for the icing, Tiger’s 2000 scoring average, lowest in tour history at 67.79(adjusted, and 68.17 unadjusted). If any of you think that that’s not as impressive as any of his other feats, or the chances of someone bettering that, ask Patrick or Isaac the odds of someone topping that, haha?M

[Hawkeye77]

I apologize for not reading through all of this thread, but if we are talking about things never likely to be accomplished again, has anyone mentioned Jack's runner-ups in Majors?

 

If being the best comes down to major championships, Nicklaus is the all-time greatest and it isn't even a contest. Along with his record 18 major wins, Nicklaus was runner-up in majors on 19 occasions and was third nine times. He finished among the top 10 at 73 of the 164 majors he played.

 

Tiger tried to finish second at The Open, couldn't pull it off.

[nikegal]

I don’t know that this is even a record but I do know that it is incredible, not likely to be topped and that Sam took it and this defeat to his grave as his most humiliating defeat and that is a par 5 4th hole in the 1938 PGA Championship, which was match-play format at the time, in which he outdrove his opponent, Lil Poison, Paul Runyan, by 102 yards, 342 yds to 240, only to lose the hole with a birdie when Mr. Runyan chipped in for his eagle 3, on his way to the most lopsided PGA final ever while it was a match play format, with an 8&7 victory over Sam, in which Sam won only 1 of 29 holes played that day(They Played a one day 36 hole final). To out drive your opponent by 100yds+ and lose the hole would really suck, haha :) M

[mosesgolf]

Tiger Woods

 

-14 for 14 closing after leading 3rd round in majors

 

This one is not true. YE Yang beat Tiger in the 2009 PGA when Tiger was leading after 3 rounds.

 

I think he means 14 in a row until that which is accurate.

 

If the YE Yang PGA is included then it’s 14/15. ;)

YE Yang snapped the streak.

[ChillyDipper]

I doubt that most of us over 30 will ever see any Pro or Am approach the asymptote that is the 8-hole par streak achieved by Club Pro Guy over the course of two rounds on the Mexican Mini Tour.

[dciccoritti]

I don't know if it's been mentioned and apologies if it has but no Player in the history of the game has won as many times as Tiger did in his 20's~ 46 victories. To give some clarity to that, Jack had 30 championships and Rory(McIlroy, not Sabbs), Jordan & Jason have 29, COMBINED, with only Jordan under 27yo. Also, just for the icing, Tiger's 2000 scoring average, lowest in tour history at 67.79(adjusted, and 68.17 unadjusted). If any of you think that that's not as impressive as any of his other feats, or the chances of someone bettering that, ask Patrick or Isaac the odds of someone topping that, hahaM

 

Yup! I mentioned it in post #54 :-)

[CheckJV]

Four (4) beers and a half pound bag of M&Ms on a short par 4. It was not me. Incredible feat.

[Cincy_Ken]

Tiger Woods

 

-14 for 14 closing after leading 3rd round in majors

 

This one is not true. YE Yang beat Tiger in the 2009 PGA when Tiger was leading after 3 rounds.

 

I think he means 14 in a row until that which is accurate.

 

If the YE Yang PGA is included then it's 14/15. ;)

YE Yang snapped the streak.

 

Closing out 14 consecutive 3rd round leads in major championships will never be matched; only 2 have even won that many professional majors.

 

If you want to count the stat including the YE Yang loss 14/15 is going to be the highest career closing rate of any player who's won a certain number of majors. Someone can fact check me but I bet of people with 5 majors that's head and shoulders above anyone elses career closing rate in majors. He could still probably lose a couple and have that record.

[KillerPenguin]

Four (4) beers and a half pound bag of M&Ms on a short par 4. It was not me. Incredible feat.

At some point the training just takes over.

[Hawkeye77]

Four (4) beers and a half pound bag of M&Ms on a short par 4. It was not me. Incredible feat.

 

If the next hole was "No. 2", I can't imagine the carnage.

[KRAMER1997]

Mike Reasor shooting 123 and 114 on the weekend at the 1974 Tallahassee Open.

[WidespreadPanic]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it’s one of my favorite Tiger stats.

[playa]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it’s one of my favorite Tiger stats.

That is just insane. Shows what sort of mental toughness he possessed. That stat alone underlines tigers greatness. I remember he didn't have a single 3 putt in his 96 Masters win, which is in the same ballpark imo. Tigers long game stole the limelight when he first came on tour, but his short game was even more impressive. Up until his driving woes he was a complete player with no weaknesses. He was head and shoulders above everyone in every facet of the game.

Edit: 97 Masters win.

[playa]

Not sure if it's been done before, but Rod Pampling led an Open one year after the first round and missed the cut.

[bscinstnct]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it’s one of my favorite Tiger stats.

 

Is this true?

[nikegal]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it’s one of my favorite Tiger stats.

 

Is this true?

Yes? M

[xgolfx]

The only guy on tour who as not afraid of Hogan was LLoyd Mangrum. I went to the Open which he won in Ohio because my dad and uncle qualified. I was in the Canterbury locker room when he said,."Unless that little Pr##k Hogan has a gun,he don't scare me",

 

As to records

In the 36 hole finals of the 1949 US Amateur at Oak Hill, Charley Coe beat Rufus King 11 and 10. I asked Coe how he beat a man so badly? Was he ill?Charley said,"When I closed him out,I only missed 2 putts under 15 feet all day".

 

Tommy Armour was in the Scottish Tank corps in WW1 His body was thrown on top of his tank with a direct hit. A corpsman who knew him took him to a field hospital.The surgery included a plate in his head

' He was totally blind for 6 months. After he regained 40% of his sight in one eye and 60% in the other eye , He became an alcoholic who did not drink water because ,"fish s**t in it". Then he won 25 tournaments and every major of his day at least once with shrapnel which couldn't be removed.

 

CHARLEY PENNA

[Darth Putter]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it's one of my favorite Tiger stats.

 

Is this true?

 

It's true.

 

From 2002-2005 he had 1540 putts 3 feet or shorter and missed 3 of them.

[Golfnutgalen]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it's one of my favorite Tiger stats.

 

Is this true?

 

I believe the number is actually 3 feet and in and I distinctly remember the missed putt which broke the streak: an eagle putt from around 2' 9" during the final round of the 2006 WGC Amex. Maybe we're referring to a different stat though because the one I'm thinking of lasted from the AP Invitational in 2004- WGC '06.

 

Putting inside 3'

 

2004: 529/531

2005: 539/539

2006. 395/396

 

I don't remember the actual final number, but it was probably around 1300.

 

Tiger went 743/762 for putts inside 5' in 2005, so it makes me extremely doubtful that he made 485 in a row somewhere in there.

[Roadking2003]

Tiger's overall conversion rate when he held the lead after 54 holes.

 

One was in his rookie season, the other with yang in 2009, so from the time he won his first major in 1997 until he won his last in 2008 he never coughed up an outright lead.

 

Its a crazy conversion rate.

 

What was his conversion rate and How does that compare with others?

Here you go Pro

@JustinRayGC

Converting outright 54-hole leads on the PGA Tour:

Tiger Woods' career: 95% (42-for-44)

Entire Tour since 2013: 42%

 

Thanks for looking that up. I know it's a fantastic record. Do you know how it compares to other top players like Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Mickelson, Norman, McIlroy, etc?

[dropkicked]

Tiger's overall conversion rate when he held the lead after 54 holes.

 

One was in his rookie season, the other with yang in 2009, so from the time he won his first major in 1997 until he won his last in 2008 he never coughed up an outright lead.

 

Its a crazy conversion rate.

 

What was his conversion rate and How does that compare with others?

Here you go Pro

@JustinRayGC

Converting outright 54-hole leads on the PGA Tour:

Tiger Woods' career: 95% (42-for-44)

Entire Tour since 2013: 42%

 

Thanks for looking that up. I know it's a fantastic record. Do you know how it compares to other top players like Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Mickelson, Norman, McIlroy, etc?

Well, that's not what you asked Pro.. But since you're searching.. I will assist with my google-fu.. Forget the rest, let's compare the best (and I love trevino..)

 

2014 statsline.

-Tiger won eight of his first 22 majors; Jack won seven of his first 22.

-Tiger won four majors in a row from the 2000 U.S. Open through the 2001 Masters, a “Tiger Slam”

-Nicklaus, the most consecutive majors he ever won was two

-When Tiger won the 1997 Masters his score of 270 broke by one shot the record that Jack had set in his 1965 rout

-Tiger was 24 he completed the career Grand Slam at the 2000 Open Championship, two years ahead of the age that Jack was when he completed the feat in 1966

-Tiger has a career winning percentage of 26 percent; Jack's winning percentage through the end of 1979 was 18 percent.

(Tiger -79 victories to 309 starts)

And the most unbreakable stat line (that you conveniently removed) would be this...

- 24 for 24, when holding a 3 shot lead into 54 holes. I don't believe Jack, ever came close

[dropkicked]

Thanks for looking that up. I know it's a fantastic record. Do you know how it compares to other top players like Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Mickelson, Norman, McIlroy, etc?

Ok, I was curious so I looked up some more recent stats..(2016)

 

Below is the winning percentage for every active PGA Tour player with 10 or more wins.

• Tiger Woods: 79 wins in 324 events -- 24.2 percent
  
• Phil Mickelson: 42 wins in 542 events -- 7.75 percent
  
• Vijay Singh: 34 wins in 584 events -- 5.82 percent
  
• Davis Love III: 21 wins in 733 events -- 2.86 percent
  
• Ernie Els: 19 wins in 420 events -- 4.52 percent
  
• Jim Furyk: 17 wins in 551 events -- 3.09 percent
  
• David Toms: 13 wins in 607 events -- 2.14 percent
  
• Adam Scott: 13 wins in 259 events -- 5.02 percent
  
• Zach Johnson: 12 wins in 330 events -- 3.64 percent
  
• Justin Leonard: 12 wins in 583 events -- 2.06 percent
  
• Steve Stricker: 12 wins in 459 events -- 2.61 percent
  
• Dustin Johnson: 11 wins in 194 events -- 5.67 percent
  
• Rory McIlroy: 11 wins in 111 events -- 9.91 percent
  
• Jason Day: 10 wins in 184 events -- 5.43 percent
  

[lowheel]

Tiger Woods

 

-14 for 14 closing after leading 3rd round in majors

 

This one is not true. YE Yang beat Tiger in the 2009 PGA when Tiger was leading after 3 rounds.

 

I think he means 14 in a row until that which is accurate.

 

If the YE Yang PGA is included then it's 14/15. ;)

YE Yang snapped the streak.

Of course.I just thought he meant in a row but it wasnt clear.

[lowheel]

Tiger's overall conversion rate when he held the lead after 54 holes.

 

One was in his rookie season, the other with yang in 2009, so from the time he won his first major in 1997 until he won his last in 2008 he never coughed up an outright lead.

 

Its a crazy conversion rate.

 

What was his conversion rate and How does that compare with others?

Here you go Pro

@JustinRayGC

Converting outright 54-hole leads on the PGA Tour:

Tiger Woods' career: 95% (42-for-44)

Entire Tour since 2013: 42%

 

@JustinRayGC

Tiger Woods will take a 3-shot lead into the final round. He is 23-for-23 converting 54-hole leads of 3+ shots in his PGA Tour career.

Thats 100% (One Hundred Percent)

 

Nice.

 

Everybody know TW 1.0 the best to ever tee it up.

 

Nobody close to that caliber of play ever.

 

Dont make me say it....

 

 

; )

 

I did it with these... have a good night Bsc! Im having Ribs and garlic mashed taters in your honor tonight. Hope youre doing well

 

[bscinstnct]

Tiger Woods

 

-14 for 14 closing after leading 3rd round in majors

 

This one is not true. YE Yang beat Tiger in the 2009 PGA when Tiger was leading after 3 rounds.

 

I think he means 14 in a row until that which is accurate.

 

If the YE Yang PGA is included then it's 14/15. ;)

YE Yang snapped the streak.

Of course.I just thought he meant in a row but it wasnt clear.

 

You know how you visualize great shots and rounds when you go to sleep.

 

YE must go to bed with a huge smile every night picturing that hybrid and win.

 

Like Douglas beating Tyson. Btw, the new 30 for 30 on douglas/tyson is really good.

 

 

[WidespreadPanic]

485 putts inside 5 ft without a miss. TW in 2005. It could be broken, but it's one of my favorite Tiger stats.

 

Is this true?

 

I believe the number is actually 3 feet and in and I distinctly remember the missed putt which broke the streak: an eagle putt from around 2' 9" during the final round of the 2006 WGC Amex. Maybe we're referring to a different stat though because the one I'm thinking of lasted from the AP Invitational in 2004- WGC '06.

 

Putting inside 3'

 

2004: 529/531

2005: 539/539

2006. 395/396

 

I don't remember the actual final number, but it was probably around 1300.

 

Tiger went 743/762 for putts inside 5' in 2005, so it makes me extremely doubtful that he made 485 in a row somewhere in there.

5 ft is correct.

[sjt4718]

Greg Norman records

 

held the 54 hole lead of all four major championships in single year (1986)

 

lost a major championship in sudden death playoff, a multi hole playoff and a 18 hole playoff

 

lost all four majors in a playoff

 

most four irons hit into the crowd right of the green on the 72nd hole in a major

[Hawkeye77]

 

Like Douglas beating Tyson. Btw, the new 30 for 30 on douglas/tyson is really good.

 

Holyfield/Tyson would be interesting but likely just sound bites.