New set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot irons

[Justmeinva57]

Hello, I have acquired a unused set (heads are still plastic wrapped) of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot iron set..3-PW. My questions are: 1. How can I determine when they were made? ( the color of the writing on the back is opposite of what I see on the net,,, IE. The Tommy Armour logo is in black and the Silver Scot logo is in white. 2. Are they more valuable beyond their initial cost? If so, how much?

 

Thanks

[sdandrea]

They are classic and were a very popular model in their time, but so were the PING Eye 2 irons and many others. While finding an unused set is a rare and awesome find, the used market still has so many of those sets and many others from that era. Used TA 845 irons are found at thrift stores and Play It Again Sports stores for well under $100, so I'm guessing that an unused set might get more $, but not much. I would guess that yours are of most value to you, not the used club market. Maybe there is a collector out there that wants them - you could try eBay. These are just my opinions, BTW.

[the bishop]

They are classic and were a very popular model in their time, but so were the PING Eye 2 irons and many others. While finding an unused set is a rare and awesome find, the used market still has so many of those sets and many others from that era. Used TA 845 irons are found at thrift stores and Play It Again Sports stores for well under $100, so I'm guessing that an unused set might get more $, but not much. I would guess that yours are of most value to you, not the used club market. Maybe there is a collector out there that wants them - you could try eBay. These are just my opinions, BTW.

Completely agree. But what a great set of irons those were/are.

[TPG1971]

I remember getting a set of those brand new when they came out. Great irons, but as stated above easily had on the secondary market. I am sure none of them will be in the condition your's are in, but sadly, you did not stumble upon retirement.

[BirdieBob]

Had those real deal irons in the early mid 90's....Also included a 1-iron.

Nice cast cavity back iron.

[getair23]

They are great irons. You should hit them.

[getitdaily]

They are great irons. You should hit them.

 

Just had a sheldon cooper moment...did you suggest he take them out of the wrapper...and play with them?

[Puttersaurus Rex]

Would love to see some pictures!

[BMC]

Are the polished or natural finish? Polished versions came out around 2001.

[Justmeinva57]

Many thanks for the responses. They have a polish finish. Here are some pics of the 3 iron.

[BMC]

Yes, those are the polished version from 2001ish. Legitimate version by the original company that made the 845s.

 

I bought a set new back then and still own them. Great club and the ferrule makes them look even better.

 

Yours are standard lie as indicated on hosel.

[cgasucks]

Many thanks for the responses. They have a polish finish. Here are some pics of the 3 iron.

 

I remember those irons when they were brand new on the racks at my local Golftown in 2001. They're great irons but don't expect anyone to pay anything near the price when it was new (too much supply and not enough demand since most want the latest and greatest).

[@_the_crook]

I have a set like that along with a few more in the matte finish and the BeCu's.

 

all play well.

most came with steel shafts in the polished finish.

not rare but nice that you got them unplayed.

hope you didn't pay too much.

 

this is what they're going to look like after years of play....

[plusfore]

Awesome find. Back in 2001 it was a toss up between the 845's, PING Eye 2's or Ben Hogan Apex Edge irons. I went with the Hogans which are back in the bag after several years with Mizuno irons.

[emlandry]

On 12/18/2018 at 11:16 AM, BMC said:

Yes, those are the polished version from 2001ish. Legitimate version by the original company that made the 845s.

 

I bought a set new back then and still own them. Great club and the ferrule makes them look even better.

 

Yours are standard lie as indicated on hosel.

I know this is an old thread and I cant see the picture. Mine have 3 lines on the hosel, the middle one being white and the one each side being black. is that standard lie angle? there is also a G on the hosel what does that indicate?

[@_the_crook]

white line in the center indicates standard lie - not upright or flat.

G indicates the head was designed at the factory to be installed on a graphite shaft.

 

 

[jimb]

On 12/18/2018 at 3:41 AM, TPG1971 said:

I remember getting a set of those brand new when they came out. Great irons, but as stated above easily had on the secondary market. I am sure none of them will be in the condition your's are in, but sadly, you did not stumble upon retirement.

I had a set of the Silver Scot 845 irons.  They were, if I recall correctly, the first set of jacked upped lofts designed for better players.  What's funny is the pitching was 47 degrees and the 9 was a 43.  The 6 irons was at 31 degrees.  By today's standards they would be weak lofted.  Of course the blades of the day (late 80s) were 3 or so degrees weaker.  The Silver Scots had progressive offsets as well

Edited June 10, 2021 by jimb

[grm24]

12 minutes ago, jimb said:

I had a set of the Silver Scot 845 irons.  They were, if I recall correctly, the first set of jacked upped lofts designed for better players.  What's funny is the pitching was 47 degrees and the 9 was a 43.  The 6 irons was at 31 degrees.  By today's standards they would be weak lofted.  Of course the blades of the day (late 80s) were 3 or so degrees weaker.  The Silver Scots had progressive offsets as well

845s iron lofts from 4 iron to PW were in 4 degree increments. The 845 PW was 48*. 3 iron was 21* There is a certain golf club spec website that has incorrect information on the loft progressions. I've had multiple sets of 845s and all of them had a 48* PW. The lofts are on the toe of the irons.

[NRJyzr]

12 hours ago, grm24 said:

845s iron lofts from 4 iron to PW were in 4 degree increments. The 845 PW was 48*. 3 iron was 21* There is a certain golf club spec website that has incorrect information on the loft progressions. I've had multiple sets of 845s and all of them had a 48* PW. The lofts are on the toe of the irons.

 

At some point late in the 90s, or even in the early 2000s, they tweaked those lofts 1* forward to the 47* PW.

 

I don't know exactly when, unfortunately.   I *have* seen sets of each, when 2nd Swing was a second home.  LOL

 

[subrew]

I have a 845s driver and 3w just hanging out in my spare bag of random clubs.  I think they came with a bag I bought a few years ago.  They are in good shape, but obviously have been used.  Original grips are a bit hard now with a few cracks.  Seem to be original shafts too.  

 

 

[@_the_crook]

10 hours ago, subrew said:

I have a 845s driver and 3w just hanging out in my spare bag of random clubs.  I think they came with a bag I bought a few years ago.  They are in good shape, but obviously have been used.  Original grips are a bit hard now with a few cracks.  Seem to be original shafts too.  

 

 

 

Dibs!

my original 845 driver went astray years ago.

if you don't want those. PM me.

I'd game them in a heartbeat - with the irons.

 

 

 

 

[grm24]

11 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

At some point late in the 90s, or even in the early 2000s, they tweaked those lofts 1* forward to the 47* PW.

Interesting. Never saw a set that had the 47* wedge. I had a set of the chrome plated 845s SS irons that were released in the early 2000's. While they were nothing but junk and very brittle feeling the set had a 48* PW. Hmm.

[mvhoffman]

My current irons!!!

[NRJyzr]

11 hours ago, grm24 said:

Interesting. Never saw a set that had the 47* wedge. I had a set of the chrome plated 845s SS irons that were released in the early 2000's. While they were nothing but junk and very brittle feeling the set had a 48* PW. Hmm.

 

In the "mildly amusing" camp...  possibly because I'd joined the golf world relatively later, the 47* PW and 27* 5i were normal to me for the 845s.  When I saw my first set with a 48* PW and 28*, it was a surprise.  

 

Checking into that was how I learned they'd originally started with the lofts you know.  For all I know, the 27/47 sets were a limited lifespan, I just happened to see a couple sets in my earlier days, and had that imprinted.  <shrug>

 

[jimb]

I have one of the these in my garage, speaking of classics.

 

 

[@_the_crook]

On 6/11/2021 at 10:29 AM, NRJyzr said:

 

In the "mildly amusing" camp...  possibly because I'd joined the golf world relatively later, the 47* PW and 27* 5i were normal to me for the 845s.  When I saw my first set with a 48* PW and 28*, it was a surprise.  

 

Checking into that was how I learned they'd originally started with the lofts you know.  For all I know, the 27/47 sets were a limited lifespan, I just happened to see a couple sets in my earlier days, and had that imprinted.  <shrug>

 

were your heads stamped with the lofts ?

 

[NRJyzr]

4 minutes ago, @_the_crook said:

were your heads stamped with the lofts ?

 

 

They weren't mine, just sets I was encountering at 2nd Swing locations back in the initial incarnation of that business.  

 

I remember them having the lofts stamped on the face, but we *are* talking about 18-20 years ago.  😉

 

[14max]

On 6/11/2021 at 10:29 AM, NRJyzr said:

 

In the "mildly amusing" camp...  possibly because I'd joined the golf world relatively later, the 47* PW and 27* 5i were normal to me for the 845s.  When I saw my first set with a 48* PW and 28*, it was a surprise.  

 

Checking into that was how I learned they'd originally started with the lofts you know.  For all I know, the 27/47 sets were a limited lifespan, I just happened to see a couple sets in my earlier days, and had that imprinted.  <shrug>

 

If I remember correctly, both the 845s Silver Scot and the 855s Silver Scot had the same lofts (21*/3, 24*/4, 28*/5, 32*/6, 36*/7, 40*/8, 44*/9, 48*/P) and the stamping on the toe.  The late 90s release (?) of the 845s Oversize had the "stronger" lofts (21*/3, 24*/4, 27*/5, 31*/6, 35*/7, 39*/8, 43*/9, 47*/P) but no stamping.  After the release of the 845s OS came the 845 V-31 (cast) and 845 V-25 (forged)...

[cgasucks]

I don't know why I'm posting to a 3 year old thread but I love the 845s oh so much.  Here are the official specs from a scanned ad from Tommy Armour itself.

 

 

[14max]

23 minutes ago, cgasucks said:

I don't know why I'm posting to a 3 year old thread but I love the 845s oh so much.  Here are the official specs from a scanned ad from Tommy Armour itself.

 

 

I'm not sure why i posted either except it looked like it was gaining traction (as zombie threads sometimes do).  I stand corrected on the 4 iron loft.  I'd forgotten the 1/2 degree...