Cobra f9 driver review

[MMB1500]

In this review, the tester gained 2mph ball speed and 3 yards over the F8.

 

 

[JStang]

The guys at TXG did a test comparing the F8 vs the F9 and they said the F9 is the fastest driver they have ever tested.

 

[3woodvt]

The guys at TXG did a test comparing the F8 vs the F9 and they said the F9 is the fastest driver they have ever tested.

 

Wow! Driver of the Year...Game over!

[Lemonde]

Just wait until Ian fits him!

[ago33]

I seriously am getting fitted for one based on that video.

 

I’ve written cobra off before. Not now.

[TollBros]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

[Lemonde]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

[Doublebuck]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

Differences are so small you may as well call it a pissing contest.

[3woodvt]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

[Man_O_War]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

 

pretty awesome that golfers are responding to performance rather than being campers. To be honest, I am a camper..Cobra drivers so excited i get to use the same adapters...which is also one reason some folks are slow to switch camps. using your old shafts you like with a new head, that's priceless

[radiman]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

His ballspeed was averaging 178 and change. I haven't seen them test the M5 yet. His swing speed was roughly 5mph faster than when he tested the Epic Flash. If like to see them tested side by side to see if the swing speed variance is a matter of being hit in different days, or if the head is really causing 5mph increase in seeing speed (which I am having a hard time believing).

 

I think they do a great job with their testing and videos. But, they have really only tested two heads in their shop so far. I don't know if they do this, but I'd really like to see a head to head matchup after they test and fit all the new offerings.

[JStang]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

His ballspeed was averaging 178 and change. I haven't seen them test the M5 yet. His swing speed was roughly 5mph faster than when he tested the Epic Flash. If like to see them tested side by side to see if the swing speed variance is a matter of being hit in different days, or if the head is really causing 5mph increase in seeing speed (which I am having a hard time believing).

 

I think they do a great job with their testing and videos. But, they have really only tested two heads in their shop so far. I don't know if they do this, but I'd really like to see a head to head matchup after they test and fit all the new offerings.

 

What do you mean they have only tested two heads? They have done the F9, Mizuno, TS, Epic Flash, Wilson etc. The only ones they haven't done are the M5/M6 or new Pings in the shop.

[radiman]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

His ballspeed was averaging 178 and change. I haven't seen them test the M5 yet. His swing speed was roughly 5mph faster than when he tested the Epic Flash. If like to see them tested side by side to see if the swing speed variance is a matter of being hit in different days, or if the head is really causing 5mph increase in seeing speed (which I am having a hard time believing).

 

I think they do a great job with their testing and videos. But, they have really only tested two heads in their shop so far. I don't know if they do this, but I'd really like to see a head to head matchup after they test and fit all the new offerings.

 

What do you mean they have only tested two heads? They have done the F9, Mizuno, TS, Epic Flash, Wilson etc. The only ones they haven't done are the M5/M6 or new Pings in the shop.

 

Sorry, I meant the latest releases. When I say that, I'm referring to those that are still yet to be released or just made available. Didn't see the Mizuno yet, I'll have to check it out.

[Kmac]

Its like people in this thread have completely missed all the F9 driver talk in the other one. Some good stuff there.

[3woodvt]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

 

pretty awesome that golfers are responding to performance rather than being campers. To be honest, I am a camper..Cobra drivers so excited i get to use the same adapters...which is also one reason some folks are slow to switch camps. using your old shafts you like with a new head, that's priceless

Very true about the adaptors and shafts. Ping player for 8 years and have made the switch to Cobra...Simply amazing head.

[Jagpilotohio]

 

 

Newest video by the TXG guys.

[J13]

The F9 from my testing is one of the best drivers they've ever made and one of the best drivers on the market hands down. Cobra got it right.

[TollBros]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour “AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc”? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

[gentles]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything.

 

TXG is Tour Experience Golf, a fitting company that is popular on youtube based in Toronto, who recently said that this was the fasted head they have ever tested. Much more scientific than your average youtube reviews.

 

[TollBros]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything.

 

TXG is Tour Experience Golf, a fitting company that is popular on youtube based in Toronto, who recently said that this was the fasted head they have ever tested. Much more scientific than your average youtube reviews.

 

 

I don't know how they do these videos, but if every spec down to CT, measured loft, etc are not identical, along with exact shaft and set up, you can't really get anything out of it. Retail heads vary in spec so wildly that one head could be hotter, with 1.2 degrees less loft, and a degree difference in face angle. As well as the shaft weight, balance and the way the player delivers it to the ball. Also every golfer is going to vary several mph in ball speed from day to day so along with identical specs, shaft and set up, if you don't hit them all in the same session, yes you will see 2-3-4 mph higher ball speed off one club because of the day. Please don't read into numbers from entertainment videos so much, no matter how much you enjoy them. If they check every and all of those boxes, the information is gold then.

[Joker91]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

 

Where can I see this data to back that up?

[TollBros]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

 

Where can I see this data to back that up?

 

In about 2 weeks when we have clearance to post it. I've stated about 15 times in other threads that I don't make statements without the data to support it, so bank on that data being posted soon.

[Joker91]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

 

Where can I see this data to back that up?

 

In about 2 weeks when we have clearance to post it. I've stated about 15 times in other threads that I don't make statements without the data to support it, so bank on that data being posted soon.

 

Is there a place to see past driver data?

[nsxguy]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything.

 

TXG is Tour Experience Golf, a fitting company that is popular on youtube based in Toronto, who recently said that this was the fasted head they have ever tested. Much more scientific than your average youtube reviews.

 

 

I don't know how they do these videos, but if every spec down to CT, measured loft, etc are not identical, along with exact shaft and set up, you can't really get anything out of it. Retail heads vary in spec so wildly that one head could be hotter, with 1.2 degrees less loft, and a degree difference in face angle. As well as the shaft weight, balance and the way the player delivers it to the ball. Also every golfer is going to vary several mph in ball speed from day to day so along with identical specs, shaft and set up, if you don't hit them all in the same session, yes you will see 2-3-4 mph higher ball speed off one club because of the day. Please don't read into numbers from entertainment videos so much, no matter how much you enjoy them. If they check every and all of those boxes, the information is gold then.

 

Where do you get your heads ?

 

Also, have you gotten a Honma 747 (either version) yet ?

[Albatross85]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

 

Where can I see this data to back that up?

The data is that GGE sells tour TM heads but not Cobra. Regardless of which is better, i don't see GGE coming on here and saying a diff OEM rules the roost when it undercuts their bottom line.

 

Clearly Toll hasnt watched any of their videos, regardless of "identical specs", Matt picked up nearly 8-9mph ballspeed over a perfectly optimized driver. These guys are some of the best fitters on the planet, so that sort of gain is eye opening.

[nic19]

TXG have a great reputation. These are no clickbait videos. If they say they ve seen the fastest speeds then Im inclined to believe them. Ian Fraser is one of the best fitters around and is not prone to exaggeration.

[Krt22]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

exactly. Seen no data from anyone that M5 can keep up w F9. Looks like Cobra 'one uped' jailbreak on gaining more ball speeds than Callaway from 2018. F9 appears from anecdotal evidence to be significantly faster than Ping TM and Cally now. TWX Marty SS 125 w 180 avg ball speeds. Up +5 over G400Ls that he was fitted for and has dialed in. Will be interesting today to see if he can dial in the F9 w those ball speeds. 2hours to see.

 

His ballspeed was averaging 178 and change. I haven't seen them test the M5 yet. His swing speed was roughly 5mph faster than when he tested the Epic Flash. If like to see them tested side by side to see if the swing speed variance is a matter of being hit in different days, or if the head is really causing 5mph increase in seeing speed (which I am having a hard time believing).

 

I think they do a great job with their testing and videos. But, they have really only tested two heads in their shop so far. I don't know if they do this, but I'd really like to see a head to head matchup after they test and fit all the new offerings.

 

In his case I think the extra CHS was 2 things. 1) It really does seem like the aero helps, especially in his case as a higher speed player. Aerodynamic drag increases with the square of velocity, so higher speed players might see the most gains from this club 2) Spent more time finding the perfect shaft. Having confidence that you wont have a big hook as a miss can help a player really get after it. The most remarkable part of the fitting was the ball speed retention even on pretty bad misses. 178+ off the leading edge was still higher than his best with the Epic Flash

 

My Epic Flash arrives today, lol :swoon:

[Bubb]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything. There are so many variables that such things are entertainment videos. That's not really "testing" anything.

Is it possible for you to factor in aerodynamics? Can a driver be superior because the same player can swing it faster than other drivers because of differing aerodynamic properties? If you are comparing drivers based on the same swing speed, might this not tell the whole story? If it takes more energy to swing a Ping G400 Max at 105 mph than t does to swing a Cobra F9 at 105 mph, is that captured in your analysis? Serious question.

[manima1]

 

M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far.

 

 

As one who has always preferred the less-adjustable versions (M2/M4 etc.), is the M6 a dud this year? Actually shape-wise seems eerily similar to the F9 so was hoping for similar performance.

[provx]

It's the year's best driver to date imo, AFTER the M5 for high speed or high spin players. Cobra has been making an outstanding product for the last 5 years or so. Before that, in my opinion they were overrated tin can sounding things. The last 5 years and especially since LTD Pro came out, Cobra is on the same level as Callaway, Taylormade, and Ping when it comes to driver performance.

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on tour "AFTER the M5 for high speed players etc"? Are you seeing club head speeds similar to what Matt as able to do with the F9 on TXG?

 

I have no idea what a txg is. You may not know, we run a test center for all golf products and test everything in the market at escallating swing speeds from 105-125 at exact measured identical specs. CT, face angle, loft, shaft, flex, tipping, length, grip, swingweight, etc are all identical. And what I'm saying is, for high speed or high spin players, M5 is the best new driver there is, with the Cobra coming it at #2 for 2019 thus far. Random one guy "tests" with unknown specs on retail heads honestly don't really tell anyone anything.

 

TXG is Tour Experience Golf, a fitting company that is popular on youtube based in Toronto, who recently said that this was the fasted head they have ever tested. Much more scientific than your average youtube reviews.

 

 

I don't know how they do these videos, but if every spec down to CT, measured loft, etc are not identical, along with exact shaft and set up, you can't really get anything out of it. Retail heads vary in spec so wildly that one head could be hotter, with 1.2 degrees less loft, and a degree difference in face angle. As well as the shaft weight, balance and the way the player delivers it to the ball. Also every golfer is going to vary several mph in ball speed from day to day so along with identical specs, shaft and set up, if you don't hit them all in the same session, yes you will see 2-3-4 mph higher ball speed off one club because of the day. Please don't read into numbers from entertainment videos so much, no matter how much you enjoy them. If they check every and all of those boxes, the information is gold then.

 

You are correct, but txg does a good job with these variables. They tested the f9 at the pga show and saw impressive results, then when they got back to their shop tested again, presumably with a different f9 head and again saw higher than normal ballspeed.

 

They also stared they haven’t tested the new taylor mades because of tm not sending them equipment to test for some reason.

 

So your statement the m5 is as good or better could certainly be true.