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Titliest is never shy about the number of players playing the Pro V1 and Pro V1X on tour. Titliest is getting stiff competition and other balls are side by side on the PGA tour with wins this year. Will Titliest lose their grip on the golf ball market due to manufacturers proving they are just as good or better? YTD below tour results with winners ball.

 

Safeway open- Kevin Tway Pro V1

Cimb classic- Mark leishmania Chrome soft

CJ cup-Brooks Koepka Pro V1

Wgc-hsbc championship- Xander Schauffele Chrome soft

Sanderson farms- Cameron Champ Srixon Z star

Shriners- Bryson Dechambeau Bridgestone BX

OHL classic- Matt Kuchar Bridgestone BX

RSM classic- Charles Howell III Pro V1

Hero world challenge- John Rahm TP5

Tournament of champions- Xander Schauffele Chrome soft

Sony Open- Matt Kuchar bridgestone BX

Career builder challenge- A. Long Pro V1

Farmers insurance- Justin Rose Tp5

Phoenix open- Ricky FowlerTP5

Attached pebble beach- Phil Mickelson chrome soft

 

Titliest-4

Callaway-4

Taylormade-3

Bridgestone-3

Srixon-1

 

 

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Anyone seen head-to-head Snell MTB Black vs ProV1 or MTB Red vs ProV1x? I'd put money on Snell.

Titleist also has lots of head pros at private clubs on their staff.

Is there anybody not being paid to play a ball on tour?

I haven't played a ProV1 I haven't found in close to 10 years, maybe longer.

 

Marketing only goes so far, still can't convince me that a ProV1 @ $4+ a ball, is that much, if any, better than those I get for $3 or less.

 

I wonder how many PGA guys play Titleist cuz they're paid to do so? Those guys are good enough, and ball performance close enough across OEMs, that they could likely win with about any brand (except Volvik, as Bubba clearly demonstrated)

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At one point in time, Sears Roebuck & Company was the #1 retailer in the US, and also had the largest availability of products for delivery, via catalog/phone sales.

 

And, I'm sure that there were those who said that Sears was never going to go away.

 

The only thing certain is the uncertainty of how things turn out, whether in business or sports.

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I heard from inside Titleist, they are switching the characteristics so the ProV1 will be the primary choice, the Pro V will go and the AVX will stay. There is evidence that they are doing this.

 

As for being the best ball?

 

There are so many balls to play that are high quality. Pro V is #1 in US because Titleist sponsors so many fledgling pros at the beginning of their careers.

 

That is also changing.

 

Loyalties change and the ROW does not have the same allegiance to Titleist as Americans do. Look at the LPGA, very international, many balls in play,the men are becoming more that way, but Collegiate NCAA golf is just slowing it a bit, that's all.

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I'm pretty sure it's because of the K-Sigs.

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I heard from inside Titleist, they are switching the characteristics so the ProV1 will be the primary choice, the Pro V will go and the AVX will stay. There is evidence that they are doing this.

 

 

 

The ProV1x and AVX are on completely different ends of the spectrum from each other so I don't see this happening

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As of October titleist had 45% market share down 1%, Callaway had 16% down 1% Tm and Bridgestone had 10% each up 1% each.

 

It’s going to be awhile before anyone catches titleist market share. TM or Bridgestone probavky carch Callaway before anyone them really cut into titleist

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Titliest is never shy about the number of players playing the Pro V1 and Pro V1X on tour. Titliest is getting stiff competition and other balls are side by side on the PGA tour with wins this year. Will Titliest lose their grip on the golf ball market due to manufacturers proving they are just as good or better? YTD below tour results with winners ball.

 

Safeway open- Kevin Tway Pro V1

Cimb classic- Mark leishmania Chrome soft

CJ cup-Brooks Koepka Pro V1

Wgc-hsbc championship- Xander Schauffele Chrome soft

Sanderson farms- Cameron Champ Srixon Z star

Shriners- Bryson Dechambeau Bridgestone BX

OHL classic- Matt Kuchar Bridgestone BX

RSM classic- Charles Howell III Pro V1

Hero world challenge- John Rahm TP5

Tournament of champions- Xander Schauffele Chrome soft

Sony Open- Matt Kuchar bridgestone BX

Career builder challenge- A. Long Pro V1

Farmers insurance- Justin Rose Tp5

Phoenix open- Ricky FowlerTP5

Attached pebble beach- Phil Mickelson chrome soft

 

Titliest-4

Callaway-4

Taylormade-3

Bridgestone-3

Srixon-1

:taunt:

Noooo !!! :swoon:

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As of October titleist had 45% market share down 1%, Callaway had 16% down 1% Tm and Bridgestone had 10% each up 1% each.

 

It's going to be awhile before anyone catches titleist market share. TM or Bridgestone probavky carch Callaway before anyone them really cut into titleist

 

Totally within margin of error. i.e. TItleist is doing fine.

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As of October titleist had 45% market share down 1%, Callaway had 16% down 1% Tm and Bridgestone had 10% each up 1% each.

 

It's going to be awhile before anyone catches titleist market share. TM or Bridgestone probavky carch Callaway before anyone them really cut into titleist

 

Totally within margin of error. i.e. TItleist is doing fine.

 

Yep and with the yellow prov1 1x that should draw some golfers in

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If they keep paying the most players, I don't see how they can be in trouble.

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Is ProV1 in trouble? Absolutely not. For every one ball you find out there to add to your shag bag, there is probably a ProV1 or ProV1X to match it elsewhere on the course. It's popular and will be for a long time. Ricky JUST switched this year. He is 30 years old and only has ever played that one other ball. That's saying something.

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I heard from inside Titleist, they are switching the characteristics so the ProV1 will be the primary choice, the Pro V will go and the AVX will stay. There is evidence that they are doing this.

 

As for being the best ball?

 

There are so many balls to play that are high quality. Pro V is #1 in US because Titleist sponsors so many fledgling pros at the beginning of their careers.

 

That is also changing.

 

Loyalties change and the ROW does not have the same allegiance to Titleist as Americans do. Look at the LPGA, very international, many balls in play,the men are becoming more that way, but Collegiate NCAA golf is just slowing it a bit, that's all.

did you even read this before you posted it? What does “ Pro v will go away but Pro v1 will stay” even mean? You heard ‘from inside titleist” but you don’t even know what the correct name of the ball is? I think the short bus is waiting for you at the curb... please, don’t post pure speculative bs masquerading as fact...

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ProV1 will have dominant market share for sure but is it still the best ball? Lots of nice choices these days for peeps willing to test the waters. Now if your idea of buying balls is walking into the Club Pro shop and putting them on the tab ProV’s will get the nod. For me, I’m rolling 6dz Snell Reds @ $165 beans and saving my money for the bets!

Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
Fairway: Titleist 917F2
Hybrid: A-Grind
2 iron: Ping Rapture
Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
Putter: Evnroll 9.1
Balls: ProV1

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Other ball makers are stepping up their game,, and sometimes the result is comparable for less money.. Only so far you can go with it..

 

 

 

One word, SNELL

DRIVER -    Taylor Made Sim Max 10.5* | Mitsubishi Tensei Red Regular
3 WD -        Taylor Made M6 14* | Atmos Orange Stiff 
HYBRIDS-  Adams Pro A12 2/3/4 | UST VTS Silver Stiff
IRONS -      PXG Gen 3 -  0311XP 5 - GW | Accra Tour 90i Stiff
WEDGES -  Ping Stealth Glide 2.0 54-12 / 58-06 Wedges | Wedge Flex
GRIPS -      JumboMax XL Ultralight grips on ALL 
PUTTER -   PXG Gunboat H 
BAG -           PXG Staff Bag
BALLS -      Snell MTB Black / Pro V1






 

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I heard from inside Titleist, they are switching the characteristics so the ProV1 will be the primary choice, the Pro V will go and the AVX will stay. There is evidence that they are doing this.

 

As for being the best ball?

 

There are so many balls to play that are high quality. Pro V is #1 in US because Titleist sponsors so many fledgling pros at the beginning of their careers.

 

That is also changing.

 

Loyalties change and the ROW does not have the same allegiance to Titleist as Americans do. Look at the LPGA, very international, many balls in play,the men are becoming more that way, but Collegiate NCAA golf is just slowing it a bit, that's all.

did you even read this before you posted it? What does “ Pro v will go away but Pro v1 will stay” even mean? You heard ‘from inside titleist” but you don’t even know what the correct name of the ball is? I think the short bus is waiting for you at the curb... please, don’t post pure speculative bs masquerading as fact...

 

Got to admit, I was a little confused by what he said as well.

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BTW, the ball count at Pebble was 74% using Titleist. Just saying.

 

I believe at WM it was 72% and nearest competitor 12%

 

Interesting stats but the OP was only citing "wins" by brand as a point for the ProV1 to be potentially in troube. This is different from ball count on tour (which Titleist clearly dominates). I think the ball count on tour clearly shows there is no issue with the ProV1 tour usage. I'd be curious to see how the consumer market looks but I'd be willing to be the ProV1 still dominates and could be taking some market share back with the yellow ball next month.

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Ive tried a lot of different balls in my short time playing the game...For consistency of quality, I always feel confident gaming a Titleist ball. Also, for me, price doesnt play a factor. Balls are expensive so DONT LOSE THEM!

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