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"Justin, we need to talk. You’ve cancelled every meeting we’ve planned with you, but we are reaching out again. We were at the first 5 events, and tournaments last year, and your tour has had a seat at the table for 7 years. We’d love nothing more than to give you a seat. Call us."

 

 

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The GIF responses to that are awesome.

 

It does make JT look a bit like a ...... turd.

 

Well, he is being a bit of a turd.

 

But he has company among the players.

 

Ha! Indeed.

 

Not that the mob is right very often.

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Bizarre. I get that the USGA might think that JT is being petty. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Their responding in the way that they seem to have done however takes them down to the same level and it's not as if the USGA needs the bad publicity.

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The USGA does not work for the Pro tours. Their focus is more on the amateur game. The Pro Tours are independent, money grabbing businesses whose innovation is putting cars on tee boxes and beer gardens. The Tours could and should make their own rules if they don't like them.

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The USGA does not work for the Pro tours. Their focus is more on the amateur game. The Pro Tours are independent, money grabbing businesses whose innovation is putting cars on tee boxes and beer gardens. The Tours could and should make their own rules if they don't like them.

 

amateurs in competitions ... the tours will never pick up the responsibility of making their own rules ... even JT knows that's a headache ...

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Hard to have an opinion until I know if that’s a real USga account or not.

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The GIF responses to that are awesome.

 

It does make JT look a bit like a ...... turd.

 

Well, he is being a bit of a turd.

 

But he has company among the players.

 

I, for one, am glad JT is being a “turd”. In this country, we have not seen a level of arrogance displayed by the USGA since King George ruled the colonies.

 

 

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The GIF responses to that are awesome.

 

It does make JT look a bit like a ...... turd.

 

 

Well, he is being a bit of a turd.

 

But he has company among the players.

 

I, for one, am glad JT is being a “turd”. In this country, we have not seen a level of arrogance displayed by the USGA since King George ruled the colonies.

 

You're right.

 

It was very arrogant of the USGA to expect the players to actually learn the rules they are expected to play by. And it was really arrogant of them to think that the players would not act like my 8 and 9 year old grandchildren.

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They've always been hyper sensitive to criticism.

 

Its difficult to learn a rule that is so badly written that it gets re-written (barely an improvement) only a matter of weeks after its initial rollout.

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The GIF responses to that are awesome.

 

It does make JT look a bit like a ...... turd.

 

 

Well, he is being a bit of a turd.

 

But he has company among the players.

 

I, for one, am glad JT is being a “turd”. In this country, we have not seen a level of arrogance displayed by the USGA since King George ruled the colonies.

 

You're right.

 

It was very arrogant of the USGA to expect the players to actually learn the rules they are expected to play by. And it was really arrogant of them to think that the players would not act like my 8 and 9 year old grandchildren.

 

All the rule changes came as such a surprise, too

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Even the R&A appears to side with the players, as chief executive Martin Slumbers remarked on Tuesday, “I think it's fair to say that it hasn't gone as smoothly as I would have liked," just days after USGA CEO Mike Davis said at a conference, "From my perspective, I would say by and large they’ve been a huge success."

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Players need to learn the rules , and some of their complaining has been a bit childish, especially IMO as it relates to fairly inconsequential things like drop height....i mean i still don't understand why anyone cares about this enough to complain.

 

But i think the root cause is mostly that people like to complain about the USGA because they do many things that make you not like them. So they are an easy punching bag even when they do things that are understandable. I mean just mention USGA and "rules" in a sentence and people are going to support you, given how they have mismanaged things at big tournaments lately, and made other unpopular or controversial changes, or have threatened to.

 

Them tweeting at Justin Thomas like the above (even the manner it's written) just shows how out of touch they are, because someone there probably thinks this will make them look like the good guys. I don't think they even realize that tour and public sentiment seems to be largely against them, again not because of specific rule changes, but the overall bumbly-ness of their organization the past 5-10 years, and the arrogance of it's leader.

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Even the R&A appears to side with the players, as chief executive Martin Slumbers remarked on Tuesday, "I think it's fair to say that it hasn't gone as smoothly as I would have liked," just days after USGA CEO Mike Davis said at a conference, "From my perspective, I would say by and large they've been a huge success."

Mike Davis seems to have a particular tunnel vision - Pauline Kael type syndrome - where he thinks it has been a huge success because he only surrounds himself with sycophants who tell him how great they are. He should get out more.

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Hard to have an opinion until I know if that's a real USga account or not.

 

It definitely looks legit...it's not a parody or troll account - all tweets are pretty much official info

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Even the R&A appears to side with the players, as chief executive Martin Slumbers remarked on Tuesday, "I think it's fair to say that it hasn't gone as smoothly as I would have liked," just days after USGA CEO Mike Davis said at a conference, "From my perspective, I would say by and large they've been a huge success."

 

LOL

 

You may have accidentally left an important piece of the article:

 

“The Rules of Golf committee at the R&A has done a lot of heavy lifting, but we’ve done it all with the tours from Day 1,” Slumbers pointed out. “And the tours sit on our Rules of Golf committee and have been involved. I think that’s important to remember. This is not just us in isolation. We do this in collaboration right across the game. But, yes, it is a lot of change. So we will continue to work closely with the tours and with the players. I remain completely committed to believing this is the right thing for the game. We will work through any further issues.
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The USGA does not work for the Pro tours. Their focus is more on the amateur game. The Pro Tours are independent, money grabbing businesses whose innovation is putting cars on tee boxes and beer gardens. The Tours could and should make their own rules if they don't like them.

 

If the USGA is focused on the amateur game they wouldn’t have made that ridiculous groove rule. That was done 100% because they hated seeing pros stop shots on a dime from thick rough. When’s the last time you’ve seen the average hack spin a ball from the rough let alone the middle of the fairway?

 

The USGA is out of touch

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JT doesn't want to meet anyone. He's a petulant child. If he stopped whining he would curl up and die.

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