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5 hours ago, RareSight said:

“Just because one doesn’t do it doesn’t make it hard.”

 

If it was “easy” Spieth would be “doing it”, no? 

 

That’s unless Spieth’s *purposely sabotaging* his career, or he’s *secretly enjoying* his slide into obscurity?

 

So which is it?

Neither.  He’s too hard headed to admit he and his coach are wrong and back track.  Swallowing pride and admitting defeat  is harder than most anything.  Defeat being a swing change that won’t work. 

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11 hours ago, doobz said:

Jordan's problem is that he was never an elite ball striker or elite off the tee, he rode the hottest 24 months of putting I've ever seen to a few majors. He was always going to have to get better Tee to Green to sustain it and he just didn't. Get back? Back to what? Making every 20 foot par save? 

I agree that his swing was never elite but it was a lot better than it is now. He's fallen for the myth that you have to shallow the club at the start of the down swing and hit up on the ball to get more distance. He now stands up through the ball and plays army golf.

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4 hours ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Agreed JS is about as likeable guy as there is. He'd have been better off listening to this guy. 

 

 

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Lol well if you pure it every time, I'm sure this is sage advice. Most people don't.

 

Where is the evidence that Spieth ever made wholesale swing changes, btw? Looks like the same sloppy move it always was

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4 hours ago, jons1 said:

Jordan is proof that Tiger was a freak anomaly to be able to make swing changes and play well.  It has ruined SO many careers.  I don't know WHY guys have success on tour and start listening to swing coaches.

 

It's too bad, because he's about as likable a player on tour, and a great role model for kids. 

This isn’t the old days of nobody having swing coaches..everyone has coaches except Bubba. So if you grow up with a swing coach..what do you expect him to do?  By all his babbling after shots it seems apparent to me that he constantly looking for verification from his caddie of some sort. 
 

 

All indications pointed to Jordan wanting more distance and they did it the wrong way apparently...Bryson has shown how to do it most effectively so far. 

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58 minutes ago, airjammer said:

This isn’t the old days of nobody having swing coaches..everyone has coaches except Bubba. So if you grow up with a swing coach..what do you expect him to do?  By all his babbling after shots it seems apparent to me that he constantly looking for verification from his caddie of some sort. 
 

 

All indications pointed to Jordan wanting more distance and they did it the wrong way apparently...Bryson has shown how to do it most effectively so far. 

 

 

Change your swing when you're winning majors and one of the best young guns in professional golf.... classic story that doesn't end well.  Tiger is probably the only one that pulled that off with any degree of success, and probably left a handful of productive years on the table doing it.

 

 

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My oh my, what's the golfing world coming to................No spectators, Phil playing the senior tour, Jordan eying the Korn Ferry tour, Tiger missing at East Lake, U.S. Open in September and The Masters in November. What's next, Titleist comes up with a ball that goes 400 yds and every course in the world becomes absolete? I keep thinking this is really all a bad dream or somebody is gonna jump out say......"Ha Ha gotcha!" your all on candid camera...............

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On 9/1/2020 at 12:49 PM, bladehunter said:

Neither.  He’s too hard headed to admit he and his coach are wrong and back track.  Swallowing pride and admitting defeat  is harder than most anything.  Defeat being a swing change that won’t work. 

Yeah, he needs to split from McCormack. Obviously, what they are doing is not working now. Might have before, but not now. He needs to go see Butch or someone else. Cameron McCormack is sort of a weird dude, I tried to follow some of his online lessons, and man, not for me at all. 

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On 9/1/2020 at 6:49 PM, bladehunter said:

Neither.  He’s too hard headed to admit he and his coach are wrong and back track.  Swallowing pride and admitting defeat  is harder than most anything.  Defeat being a swing change that won’t work. 

“Swallowing pride and admitting defeat is harder than most anything” 

- And that’s a mental issue, but you earlier said “the mind is just as easily set right as it is distracted.” Yet now you’re saying it’s “harder than most anything”… so is it “easy” or “hard”, you can’t have it both ways?

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On 9/1/2020 at 11:56 PM, freowho said:

I agree that his swing was never elite but it was a lot better than it is now. He's fallen for the myth that you have to shallow the club at the start of the down swing and hit up on the ball to get more distance. He now stands up through the ball and plays army golf.

 

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On 9/4/2020 at 2:19 PM, RareSight said:

“Swallowing pride and admitting defeat is harder than most anything” 

- And that’s a mental issue, but you earlier said “the mind is just as easily set right as it is distracted.” Yet now you’re saying it’s “harder than most anything”… so is it “easy” or “hard”, you can’t have it both ways?

Sure you can.  What we MAKE  hard mentally is hard. And when  we let that  go , mental part becomes easy (Er) .  Learning the mental  control over your own conscious is the actual hard part.  
 

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15 hours ago, grm24 said:

 

 

 

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Touché !   Still thinking on the TM box set ?  
 

 

 

( I’ll see myself out lol ). 

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Is Cameron McCormick an elite swing coach?  I don't know any players other than JS that he has developed from the ground up.  Other issue could be that JS sees CM as a father figure and it could be difficult for him to abandon him.

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On 9/3/2020 at 1:45 PM, 8milespast said:

 

 

Lol well if you pure it every time, I'm sure this is sage advice. Most people don't.

 

Where is the evidence that Spieth ever made wholesale swing changes, btw? Looks like the same sloppy move it always was

All you  have to do is look at 2015 masters footage and then now. He’s upright and down the line in 15. And he has much more waist Bend and sucks it inside now trying to hit that slinging draw.   Which produces a two way miss depending on face at impact.  

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2 hours ago, leezer99 said:

Is Cameron McCormick an elite swing coach?  I don't know any players other than JS that he has developed from the ground up.  Other issue could be that JS sees CM as a father figure and it could be difficult for him to abandon him.

Maybe they are already doing this but why couldn’t CM be like “Hey, YJS, I’m going to have a couple different elite coaches come by and sit in on a few of our sessions to see what they have to say.” 

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2 hours ago, ebrasmus21 said:

Maybe they are already doing this but why couldn’t CM be like “Hey, YJS, I’m going to have a couple different elite coaches come by and sit in on a few of our sessions to see what they have to say.” 

 

The circle jerk you see on IG or Twitter of coaches complimenting each other is a farce.  There's no way a coach invites another coach in on their meal ticket.

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On 9/6/2020 at 3:51 PM, ebrasmus21 said:

Maybe they are already doing this but why couldn’t CM be like “Hey, YJS, I’m going to have a couple different elite coaches come by and sit in on a few of our sessions to see what they have to say.” 

He should go see GG .. the guy knows the swing and I'd bet it would be a 2 day fix.

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