What up with Jordan?

[chigolfer1]

51 minutes ago, DFS PFD said:

 With all of that said, one win at Valero and some top 10's doesn't do it for ME, I hope YJS proves me wrong. 

 

How bout three top 5s, a top 10, a win and moving from 92nd to 38th in OWGR in a couple months?

[DFS PFD]

2 minutes ago, chigolfer1 said:

 

How bout three top 5s, a top 10, a win and moving from 92nd to 38th in OWGR in a couple months?

He wins one more PGA tournament this season, regardless of the strength of field, and I will gladly agree he is back. 

[chigolfer1]

1 hour ago, DFS PFD said:

He wins one more PGA tournament this season, regardless of the strength of field, and I will gladly agree he is back. 

 

Fair enough

[BombinJim]

1 hour ago, DFS PFD said:

He wins one more PGA tournament this season, regardless of the strength of field, and I will gladly agree he is back. 

Hopefully you only need to wait until Sunday.

[DFS PFD]

3 minutes ago, BombinJim said:

Hopefully you only need to wait until Sunday.

That would be a great way to make a statement! 

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

Pretty frustrating how this forum has become agree 100% or you're wrong. Not sure why people aren't allowed dissenting opinions. I simply don't like Jordan as he had the spot light and became quite the "whiner" and throws more of a fit than I think fits most the time. I am a big advocate of JT, yes he had his mishap as well, with very very few exceptions he stays very grounded on the course and is a class act all around. Hopefully Jordan is back, and we have big names competing every week again at the highest level. With all of that said, one win at Valero and some top 10's doesn't do it for ME, I hope YJS proves me wrong. Apologies for everyone who is offended by me not blinding loving Jordan and having a different opinion. Maybe he'll be wearing the green jacket in 6 days. 

It’s not that at all.  It’s peoples  inability to discuss things with actual open minds. I admit to having the same issue at times with certain topics.  But.  You can find me saying I’m wrong many times on here when it’s proven.  Just like earlier today I tipped my cap to @straightshot7 when he posted to acknowledge the end of the slump.  Or at the very least.  A new milestone on the trek out of the hole , if that sounds better.  And he’s literally one of the biggest non jordan fans here.  
 

 

I guess for me it boils down to this.  Brooks , DJ , or even Reed I get the hate.  I get the “polarizing “ aspects.  With Jordan.  I don’t  get that at all.  It’s almost as if folks hate the kid because he’s too nice. Or too something.  Or it’s a perceived injustice that he wins with “ that ugly swing “. Etc. as if being 16th all time money list as a very young man , is somehow just luck.  
 

I guess that’s where my fanatical comments come from.  Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?  Go to page 1 and read this thread.  It’s not a discussion of his play or his downturn.  It’s literally a bunch of guys celebrating a guys downfall.  A d predicting his careers end.   So yes. When those guys were proven flat wrong , it gets a little heated when someone decides to say “ eh. A win.  That’s not good enough for me “.    It may not be your fault.  But if you come in to kick that hornets nest again , without actually discussing why you feel like he’s still done , dont be shocked at the less than appreciative response.  Right ?  
 

***edit to add. I appreciate the actual goal post of one more win this year being placed.  That’s something.  With several others it’s just a constant moving target , which is a sure sign of no argument at all.  
 

I agree that one win doesn’t guarantee a complete rebirth.  But the thing is , the win is a point of proof that all the progress we’ve all seen is real.  And  that same progress we were told was make believe  just a few weeks ago.  If a win validated Joel Damon , a win also validated Jordan Spieth works.  As it would validate Tigers work to come back or Rory’s after his slump ends.  ( it will end ).  

Edited April 5, 2021 by bladehunter

[DFS PFD]

18 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

It’s not that at all.  It’s peoples  inability to discuss things with actual open minds. I admit to having the same issue at times with certain topics.  But.  You can find me saying I’m wrong many times on here when it’s proven.  Just like earlier today I tipped my cap to @straightshot7 when he posted to acknowledge the end of the slump.  Or at the very least.  A new milestone on the trek out of the hole , if that sounds better.  And he’s literally one of the biggest non jordan fans here.  
 

 

I guess for me it boils down to this.  Brooks , DJ , or even Reed I get the hate.  I get the “polarizing “ aspects.  With Jordan.  I don’t  get that at all.  It’s almost as if folks hate the kid because he’s too nice. Or too something.  Or it’s a perceived injustice that he wins with “ that ugly swing “. Etc. as if being 16th all time money list as a very young man , is somehow just luck.  
 

I guess that’s where my fanatical comments come from.  Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?  Go to page 1 and read this thread.  It’s not a discussion of his play or his downturn.  It’s literally a bunch of guys celebrating a guys downfall.  A d predicting his careers end.   So yes. When those guys were proven flat wrong , it gets a little heated when someone decides to say “ eh. A win.  That’s not good enough for me “.    It may not be your fault.  But if you come in to kick that hornets nest again , without actually discussing why you feel like he’s still done , dont be shocked at the less than appreciative response.  Right ?  
 

***edit to add. I appreciate the actual goal post of one more win this year being placed.  That’s something.  With several others it’s just a constant moving target , which is a sure sign of no argument at all.  
 

I agree that one win doesn’t guarantee a complete rebirth.  But the thing is , the win is a point of proof that all the progress we’ve all seen is real.  And  that same progress we were told was make believe  just a few weeks ago.  If a win validated Joel Damon , a win also validated Jordan Spieth works.  As it would validate Tigers work to come back or Rory’s after his slump ends.  ( it will end ).  

Like I said, Jordan wins again this season I'll admit he's "back" for whatever it's worth. When Tiger won the Tour Championship I was under no illusion, he definitely wasn't "back". Same with the Master's, the mitigating factor for Jordan is his relatively consistent top 10's this season. But we do all know there's a big difference between lots of top 10's, and closing the deal. Hopefully he can prove me wrong. 

[chigolfer1]

27 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

 

I agree that one win doesn’t guarantee a complete rebirth.  But the thing is , the win is a point of proof that all the progress we’ve all seen is real.  And  that same progress we were told was make believe  just a few weeks ago.  If a win validated Joel Damon , a win also validated Jordan Spieth works.  As it would validate Tigers work to come back or Rory’s after his slump ends.  ( it will end ).  

 

and it's not just a win, it's three top fours, a top 10 and a world golf rating going from 90+ to 38 and, as we know, the golf ranking takes into account SOF.

 

I appreciate DFS giving a tangible metric but I don't really agree with it.  I don't see how if he came in 2nd in two majors and ended the year in top 20 that that isn't back vs. winning the John Deere but, again, at least he gave something tangible.

Edited April 5, 2021 by chigolfer1

[tiderider]

this is what's up:

[JDCON]

Time for me to sell my Srixons and buy Titleist.

 

[Socrates]

1 hour ago, tiderider said:

this is what's up:

As long as he doesn't claim to have Tiger Blood.

[Barfolomew]

Jordy I'm a fan.....

 

But stop talkin to the ball in the air you sound like a neurotic whiner.......... Live with your hit and man up already. Has he not learned the mental game is everything at his level yet?  He even admitted his downfall was mental... makin the game tougher then needs to be is a rough way to win tourneys

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, Barfolomew said:

Jordy I'm a fan.....

 

But stop talkin to the ball in the air you sound like a neurotic whiner.......... Live with your hit and man up already. Has he not learned the mental game is everything at his level yet?  He even admitted his downfall was mental... makin the game tougher then needs to be is a rough way to win tourneys

See.  I literally love the commentary.   
 

all he’s doing is vocalizing what everyone else thinks on every shot.  Why ?  Because he’s so tuned in that he isn’t considering what it looks like. So I’d argue that the folks worried about how they appear to the gallery might need to get to a place mentally where they don’t care about that.  

[bladehunter]

4 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

Like I said, Jordan wins again this season I'll admit he's "back" for whatever it's worth. When Tiger won the Tour Championship I was under no illusion, he definitely wasn't "back". Same with the Master's, the mitigating factor for Jordan is his relatively consistent top 10's this season. But we do all know there's a big difference between lots of top 10's, and closing the deal. Hopefully he can prove me wrong. 

I guess agree to disagree.  I knew tiger was back when  he won Augusta.  Now I think maybe the disconnect is what “ back “ means.  Tiger 1.0 doesn’t and won’t ever exist again.  But tiger 3.5 was back and it was the best live golf I’ve watched ( I missed tiger 1.0-3.0 live ) 

 

so I guess if you think “ back “ is him finishing top 3 in every major , then that’s an impossible expectation  to have.  And in that case , nobody is “ back “ or ever will be.  It’s all a rooster illusion and they’re all hacks who need day jobs.  

Edited April 6, 2021 by bladehunter

[trackcoach13]

8 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

Pretty frustrating how this forum has become agree 100% or you're wrong. Not sure why people aren't allowed dissenting opinions. I simply don't like Jordan as he had the spot light and became quite the "whiner" and throws more of a fit than I think fits most the time. I am a big advocate of JT, yes he had his mishap as well, with very very few exceptions he stays very grounded on the course and is a class act all around. Hopefully Jordan is back, and we have big names competing every week again at the highest level. With all of that said, one win at Valero and some top 10's doesn't do it for ME, I hope YJS proves me wrong. Apologies for everyone who is offended by me not blinding loving Jordan and having a different opinion. Maybe he'll be wearing the green jacket in 6 days. 

JS has 5 top tens in his last 7 starts including a win.

 

DFS PFD be like:

Edited April 6, 2021 by trackcoach13

[trackcoach13]

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Edited April 6, 2021 by trackcoach13
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[rafal]

This site is pretty much a reddit clone with about mobbing someone who's got a different opinion.  Insane name calling and irrational, blind hate.

 

I am a Spieth fan and I believe he can win another major in the future. For a player of his stature you don't get back by winning Valero Texas Open.  This is not about "invalidating" his win but to put it in the context of who Jordan used to be, and what kind of player we're talking about "being back" for the purposes of closing this thread.

 

I mean, you're selling him cheap if Valero means he's reached his potential again.  It's not his fault of course, he can only beat the field that shows up and he did it in convincing fashion. 

 

So that's my opinion and I am sticking with it, if you don't agree that's fine with me, but get a grip on your emotions.  You're not cancelling me with your hate and the high you get from joining an internet mob is going to be short lived.

[rafal]

5 hours ago, bladehunter said:

It’s not that at all.  It’s peoples  inability to discuss things with actual open minds. I admit to having the same issue at times with certain topics.  But.  You can find me saying I’m wrong many times on here when it’s proven.  Just like earlier today I tipped my cap to @straightshot7 when he posted to acknowledge the end of the slump.  Or at the very least.  A new milestone on the trek out of the hole , if that sounds better.  And he’s literally one of the biggest non jordan fans here.  
 

 

I guess for me it boils down to this.  Brooks , DJ , or even Reed I get the hate.  I get the “polarizing “ aspects.  With Jordan.  I don’t  get that at all.  It’s almost as if folks hate the kid because he’s too nice. Or too something.  Or it’s a perceived injustice that he wins with “ that ugly swing “. Etc. as if being 16th all time money list as a very young man , is somehow just luck.  
 

I guess that’s where my fanatical comments come from.  Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?  Go to page 1 and read this thread.  It’s not a discussion of his play or his downturn.  It’s literally a bunch of guys celebrating a guys downfall.  A d predicting his careers end.   So yes. When those guys were proven flat wrong , it gets a little heated when someone decides to say “ eh. A win.  That’s not good enough for me “.    It may not be your fault.  But if you come in to kick that hornets nest again , without actually discussing why you feel like he’s still done , dont be shocked at the less than appreciative response.  Right ?  
 

***edit to add. I appreciate the actual goal post of one more win this year being placed.  That’s something.  With several others it’s just a constant moving target , which is a sure sign of no argument at all.  
 

I agree that one win doesn’t guarantee a complete rebirth.  But the thing is , the win is a point of proof that all the progress we’ve all seen is real.  And  that same progress we were told was make believe  just a few weeks ago.  If a win validated Joel Damon , a win also validated Jordan Spieth works.  As it would validate Tigers work to come back or Rory’s after his slump ends.  ( it will end ).  

 

Two things may lead some people who dislike Spieth:

 

- idiosyncratic: just don't like his what, hair? voice, swing whatever.  Demeanor? Sure a reason....we all have special reasons to like or dislike other people.  They don't have to (and indeed can't) be justified to anyone.

 

- "Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?" well, it's the same as with Tiger and others, at some point the fanatical fanbase becomes so toxic (just look at this thread, the fans are unable to discuss issues in any civil fashion) that it really throws shade on the athlete and once you start disliking the fanbase you might end up not caring for the athlete

[bladehunter]

5 minutes ago, rafal said:

 

Two things may lead some people who dislike Spieth:

 

- idiosyncratic: just don't like his what, hair? voice, swing whatever.  Demeanor? Sure a reason....we all have special reasons to like or dislike other people.  They don't have to (and indeed can't) be justified to anyone.

 

- "Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?" well, it's the same as with Tiger and others, at some point the fanatical fanbase becomes so toxic (just look at this thread, the fans are unable to discuss issues in any civil fashion) that it really throws shade on the athlete and once you start disliking the fanbase you might end up not caring for the athlete

Yes. But that’s you talking about you.  Right ?  I’m aware of your change of tune as a fan.   I recall you being a huge fan.  Then luke warm and then to total dismissal .  Correct me if that’s inaccurate.  
 

thats you.  And I think speaks to what you were a fan of.  Winning.   And I get that.  Some people loved tigers game and hated tiger the person.  Etc.   I’m a fan of the person , and the fact that he won was icing on the cake.  I identify with his idiosyncratic ways.  I talk to my ball.  . I talk to myself , sometimes outloud.  Much like Bubba etc. I get the method. I do.  It’s harmless and yet it makes some folks melt into a puddle. 🤷‍♂️
 

now.  Take this thread.  I see it a different way. I see 90 pages of haters shatting on a kid and a few opinions like mine that break from the herd.  You’re right about the Reddit analogy. But it’s the ones who’d start a thread like this. Not  those of us who’d question it being started and run in the manner it was.  
 

you maybe like @DFS PFD and just catching the bad end of it and not really deserving it.  So far the real hate brigade hasn’t riled back in.  But had he puked  Sunday and  lost , they’d have swarmed here. And you know I’m accurate there.  So on that note I get you in a way.  But it’s only been true since Sunday.  (Notice I haven’t piled on you , I already knew where you were coming from)  The rest of this thread is a hateful dumpster fire.  
 

 

[straightshot7]

6 hours ago, bladehunter said:

It’s not that at all.  It’s peoples  inability to discuss things with actual open minds. I admit to having the same issue at times with certain topics.  But.  You can find me saying I’m wrong many times on here when it’s proven.  Just like earlier today I tipped my cap to @straightshot7 when he posted to acknowledge the end of the slump.  Or at the very least.  A new milestone on the trek out of the hole , if that sounds better.  And he’s literally one of the biggest non jordan fans here.  
 

 

I guess for me it boils down to this.  Brooks , DJ , or even Reed I get the hate.  I get the “polarizing “ aspects.  With Jordan.  I don’t  get that at all.  It’s almost as if folks hate the kid because he’s too nice. Or too something.  Or it’s a perceived injustice that he wins with “ that ugly swing “. Etc. as if being 16th all time money list as a very young man , is somehow just luck.  
 

I guess that’s where my fanatical comments come from.  Me not having a clue why anyone takes time to hate this kid?    I mean don’t believe it ?  Go to page 1 and read this thread.  It’s not a discussion of his play or his downturn.  It’s literally a bunch of guys celebrating a guys downfall.  A d predicting his careers end.   So yes. When those guys were proven flat wrong , it gets a little heated when someone decides to say “ eh. A win.  That’s not good enough for me “.    It may not be your fault.  But if you come in to kick that hornets nest again , without actually discussing why you feel like he’s still done , dont be shocked at the less than appreciative response.  Right ?  
 

***edit to add. I appreciate the actual goal post of one more win this year being placed.  That’s something.  With several others it’s just a constant moving target , which is a sure sign of no argument at all.  
 

I agree that one win doesn’t guarantee a complete rebirth.  But the thing is , the win is a point of proof that all the progress we’ve all seen is real.  And  that same progress we were told was make believe  just a few weeks ago.  If a win validated Joel Damon , a win also validated Jordan Spieth works.  As it would validate Tigers work to come back or Rory’s after his slump ends.  ( it will end ).  

thanks for the shout out.

 

glad I’ve made the anti-Jordan hall of fame.

 

just kidding 

 

even though we disagree on just about everything, I know you’re a good guy who means well. 
 

and so do I. I’m less of a jerk in real life, I promise.

 

I don’t even dislike Spieth. He seemed pretty cool when I saw him in person. Obviously if I had a chance to play golf with him I’d be doing my best to make friends with him and he’s probably a great guy in real life.

 

I do think his commentary and over analysis is not the best to watch.

 

but if anything (as a huuuuge Tiger fan) I am probably in the camp of how non-huge Tiger fans felt when the huge Tiger fans would root for him so relentlessly/passionately. Sometimes the narrative needs some balance. 

[Hawkeye77]

Spieth doesn’t even claim to be all the way back, I’m sure he has majors in his sights the next 10-15 years and has a pretty mature outlook and still working.  Winning Sunday was huge for him, though, look out!
 

Nice young man, genuine, well spoken, seems like a gentlemen on the course,  gives a look in the window to his thought process on the course 99% of pros don’t, record success at an early age ——- all that seems a recipe for respect and someone to root for sometimes. 
 

But he talks when he plays? Even though it’s to himself or his caddie, doesn’t hurt anyone. 
 

I can’t figure out why anyone would dislike him, but everyone entitled to opinions. 
 

I’ve never really enjoyed Fred Couples since he came out on Tour, most think he’s “cool”, so there you are, lol. 
 

 

[bscinstnct]

10 hours ago, DFS PFD said:

He wins one more PGA tournament this season, regardless of the strength of field, and I will gladly agree he is back. 

 

JS is back. You saw him out there.

 

He look hole and see

 

 

[80sFredriksson]

15 hours ago, bladehunter said:

All valid points. But.  20 wins and 5 majors is today’s tiger numbers.  So that’s not a let down. That would be a huge accomplishment in today’s climate.  We will never see another guy get more than 7 in a career.  Never.  Equipment has brought on the parity that guarantees that.  
 

id settle for seeing him complete the grand slam , and winning 1 a year from now till he’s 38 or so.  That would be huge.  

not sure winning majors is that much harder now, I mean Jordan won two in a row and Brooks won back to back us opens and pgas

[straightshot7]

16 hours ago, bladehunter said:

All valid points. But.  20 wins and 5 majors is today’s tiger numbers.  So that’s not a let down. That would be a huge accomplishment in today’s climate.  We will never see another guy get more than 7 in a career.  Never.  Equipment has brought on the parity that guarantees that.  
 

id settle for seeing him complete the grand slam , and winning 1 a year from now till he’s 38 or so.  That would be huge.  

Wait what?

 

you think no one will ever have 8+ majors in a career ever again?

 

20 wins and 5 majors is today’s tiger numbers??

 

dude what?

 

you think if Tiger were born today and lived the exact same way he would only get to 5 majors?

 

you’re killing me man 😂

 

maybe there just aren’t any obsessively ridiculously talented and competitive players today.

 

Prime Tiger would sweep the floor with this generation. It would be no different than before. Don’t be disrespectful. 
 

you’re saying Jack and Tiger would only have 5-6 majors in today’s era? 
 

old man, post surgeries version of Tiger won the 2019 masters 😂

 

that’s still one more Major than young Spieth has won in the last 3 years, so how does that fit into the equation...

 

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by straightshot7

[bladehunter]

5 hours ago, straightshot7 said:

Wait what?

 

you think no one will ever have 8+ majors in a career ever again?

 

20 wins and 5 majors is today’s tiger numbers??

 

dude what?

 

you think if Tiger were born today and lived the exact same way he would only get to 5 majors?

 

you’re killing me man 😂

 

maybe there just aren’t any obsessively ridiculously talented and competitive players today.

 

Prime Tiger would sweep the floor with this generation. It would be no different than before. Don’t be disrespectful. 
 

you’re saying Jack and Tiger would only have 5-6 majors in today’s era? 
 

old man, post surgeries version of Tiger won the 2019 masters 😂

 

that’s still one more Major than young Spieth has won in the last 3 years, so how does that fit into the equation...

 

 

I agree that another tiger could do it. What I’m saying is that the circumstances will never be right again for another tiger to be born.  
 

it would take other worldly talent mixed with a game that isn’t riddled with equipment help.  You forget how dominant he was. Didn’t he win something like 6-7 events In a row?  We’ve never had anybody sniff anything like tiger since.  Or before really.   A huge part of tigers dominance was that he could do things with a long iron that nobody else could do.  Now.  Everybody can do that.  It’s called a hybrid. Just go study some 90s footage.  You’ve never seen so many bad long irons in your life. 
 

if another tiger comes along he’s going to hit 400 yard drives in play , wedge like Spieth and putt like Jack.   I’ll believe that when I see it.  Bryson isn’t close for example.  
 

on the major count going forward.  Happy to be proven wrong. Who currently will get to 8?  

Edited April 6, 2021 by bladehunter

[Bad9]

22 hours ago, bladehunter said:

All valid points. But.  20 wins and 5 majors is today’s tiger numbers.  So that’s not a let down. That would be a huge accomplishment in today’s climate.  We will never see another guy get more than 7 in a career.  Never.  Equipment has brought on the parity that guarantees that.  
 

id settle for seeing him complete the grand slam , and winning 1 a year from now till he’s 38 or so.  That would be huge.  

 

Did you watch golf from 1980 to 1997? That's the kind of stuff they were saying then "these guys are all too good for someone to dominate", etc. It was actually pretty boring. And then came April 1997...

[BlackDiamondPar5]

Not sure why some here seem to get all bent out of shape about challenged opinions.  I guess it depends on the rubric you'd use to determine if he's out of his slump?  I also guess it depends on how much like or dislike you have for this guy?  Disliking him is for reasons like talking to his ball, referring to his team and using the term "we"... seriously if that bothers you then please check in to a clinic. 

 

Anyway when this thread started (Mar 2019) he'd been in a slump.  He hadn't had at least 5 top 10 finishes since 2018 and had been winless since 2017. Things only got worse for the balance of 2019 and 2020.   Now turn the page to 2021 and BAM!--- He's already had 5 top 10 finishes including 1 win.  He's currently the 7th best golfer in the world for YTD 2021.    You'd have to be blind or biased to say something good isn't going on with his game.   Is he back?  Not sure and it depends on how you measure "being back", but the trend is certainly saying great things about his game. 

Edited April 6, 2021 by BlackDiamondPar5

[PowerFade36]

2 hours ago, bladehunter said:

I agree that another tiger could do it. What I’m saying is that the circumstances will never be right again for another tiger to be born.  
 

it would take other worldly talent mixed with a game that isn’t riddled with equipment help.  You forget how dominant he was. Didn’t he win something like 6-7 events In a row?  We’ve never had anybody sniff anything like tiger since.  Or before really.   A huge part of tigers dominance was that he could do things with a long iron that nobody else could do.  Now.  Everybody can do that.  It’s called a hybrid. Just go study some 90s footage.  You’ve never seen so many bad long irons in your life. 
 

if another tiger comes along he’s going to hit 400 yard drives in play , wedge like Spieth and putt like Jack.   I’ll believe that when I see it.  Bryson isn’t close for example.  
 

on the major count going forward.  Happy to be proven wrong. Who currently will get to 8?  

I tend to agree with you, Tiger made golf extremely lucrative for pro's that it set the bar so high to become a pro. Almost all of the players practice for hours per day and they're all maxing out their skill level making it very difficult for any one pro to win multiple times per year, much less several Majors in a career. 8 Majors will be extremely unlikely.

Guys like Koepka or Spieth or Rory might get to 5-7. Maybe one of them gets to 8. But very unlikely.

 

 

[BallerNate]

Really enjoy watching Jordan play, and great to see him back in the W column!

 

The guy just seems super down to earth and is a golfer’s golfer!

 

Love the passion he shows and he’s extremely entertaining!

[MtlJeff]

22 minutes ago, BallerNate said:

Really enjoy watching Jordan play, and great to see him back in the W column!

 

The guy just seems super down to earth and is a golfer’s golfer!

 

Love the passion he shows and he’s extremely entertaining!

 

Your positivity and total lack of a grandiose hot take have no place in this thread