Ping's new G410 LST driver

[stealthall]

About to put a LST into the bag....we shall see.

[SwooshLT]

Anyone here with a G410 ......either plus or LST ......ever game the Z785 by Srixon?

[Kale_m]

Traded my plus for the lst

 

Wow

 

Why did I wait this long to do this...

 

This thing is unreal! Put the pw70tx in it and this might be the best feeling, sounding and performing combo i have ever bagged!!

[SwooshLT]

> @Kale_m said:

> Traded my plus for the lst

>

> Wow

>

> Why did I wait this long to do this...

>

> This thing is unreal! Put the pw70tx in it and this might be the best feeling, sounding and performing combo i have ever bagged!!

 

What changed? Flight, spin, dispersion?

[Kale_m]

> @" SwooshLT" said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > Traded my plus for the lst

> >

> > Wow

> >

> > Why did I wait this long to do this...

> >

> > This thing is unreal! Put the pw70tx in it and this might be the best feeling, sounding and performing combo i have ever bagged!!

>

> What changed? Flight, spin, dispersion?

 

Everything

 

Flight is lower and more penetrating

Sound is way better

And no left misses/ had to play the plus at a lower loft and flat to stay away from the left side.

 

Spin looks lower to my eye (will get numbers soon)

 

Just could not miss with it. Shaft is new to me to in the tensei pro white 70tx

[Booker]

Ive tried many times to wander away from mrc white profile looking for something different. I always end up right back to IT, Really works well for a quick hard transition. Like yourself I felt the PO was not low launch or spin, I prefer the softer handle and no counter balance.

[scott_Donald]

> @Booker said:

> Ive tried many times to wander away from mrc white profile looking for something different. I always end up right back to IT, Really works well for a quick hard transition. Like yourself I felt the PO was not low launch or spin, I prefer the softer handle and no counter balance.

 

Interesting, I have always been a whiteboard person, I think I have a smooth transition. White 80 TX tippped 1.5 inches in my M5 3 wood and its a cannon.

 

I have had the PO in my Epic SubZero, M3 and now the G410 LST and its been awesome. both compliment each other well. To me the PO launches lower than the White did in the same heads. with the M3 I had to have the weights in the back to get enough flight.

 

I am finding with the PO in the LST, I have got two shots now; low fairway finder and hit high and watch it fly shot.

 

[cliche]

sorry for the slight of topic, but when did the 410 came out? actually more interested to know when to follow up will release. spring 2020?

[MH2]

Has anyone found weights that r less than 10 grams? If so where is the best place to purchase them? Unfortunately I just found out ping doesn’t make lighter than 10 grams. Lots of very cheap options on eBay but not sure on the quality

[Hammer22]

Bought a 14g from this vendor on eBay and it looks as good as the original (link) ----> **[chuntal-0](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-5x-9x-Golf-Weight-Screw-For-Ping-G410-SFT-LSF-TEC-Driver-G410-Plus-DR-LH-RH/333256702975?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=542270073303&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 "chuntal-0")**

 

They have lighter weights also. Only difference was the aftermarket screw, but it fit with no problems at all and was exactly what I needed.

 

Have purchased from this vendor before as well - no issues ----> **[moicn.brqup](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Golf-Weight-Screw-For-2019-Ping-G410-Driver-G410-SFT-Plus-Driver-10g-18g-20/163765561991?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2621302a87:m:m4pZ0h12dQpoyKS3xMinKAw&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXbqDv5pRwZ8f%2FiWmuPRTJW3WmAC55a9f8TB2HMcb6tJ8t8zUHg4%2FcChNp8R9vAmIPU3%2B0Xh%2B5zp0HBE8vTdGfRsbaAqinKSk3iUsoLquYPliJkMBusU6DJq%2FOs7Y3YrrEjc%2BBwyOoc%2Bu1Q7tQ1r%2BMbhMsfe1yBYPwYV1C1hpEJgcJq7Ygs0hVcgn3YBknoG03CUle716dxFAhGZBJL0hutdagbufUOjhJ95dIu8Pd%2BHC7PPS4zPICuiCSZENgXLzuO3eH1fXV7vPAJPWOEAWhvmk%2FrtzPkMbh1KQDs4zR%2BwrYURL2qD0esrHu9vgDNHFo2pdmBdanDNG7EhX%2FpVQVNAJR5nKkzBb304CP15PmJ02R7eQirO32YU5umR7LbErMERYirCze5sNwniMOVC%2FaXSgXf7po6N5Op5ZStMHD6tsH5aD4H1noYH8evxITpxt9VU5nZvDHLW9BXhxsPtZha5%2B6Kw3LCbgAqOSyyjBbmsL2gqR4xFRQCBZB%2Fk3%2FjsQohL%2FNn2k4tfQvs0fX1Tob4JlZ6f9LTUzeidABVqJ5MmdTCSifFjyWY7rAtr9ObaIuodzWzd4jzCu3a0u5SufRUZr8ceE8FvqKfhhi38LYNcoYSl%2Bwbz57QSP8mex5mKhXzEfVe4uqMDHGVoMNgbAvdtelyfwaZRBpqdA6MfE9H7kNXrtyslDFoOQokVtvZoWT3jtIx5y2jNDxmkwsCbH7L3aFlkfzRZLYJYKzSCGbLyg%3D%3D&checksum=16376556199174041eb9f6cb41f4a27655b41a3c0904&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXbqDv5pRwZ8f%2FiWmuPRTJW3WmAC55a9f8TB2HMcb6tJ8t8zUHg4%2FcChNp8R9vAmIPU3%2B0Xh%2B5zp0HBE8vTdGfRsbaAqinKSk3iUsoLquYPliJkMBusU6DJq%2FOs7Y3YrrEjc%2BBwyOoc%2Bu1Q7tQ1r%2BMbhMsfe1yBYPwYV1C1hpEJgcJq7Ygs0hVcgn3YBknoG03CUle716dxFAhGZBJL0hutdagbufUOjhJ95dIu8Pd%2BHC7PPS4zPICuiCSZENgXLzuO3eH1fXV7vPAJPWOEAWhvmk%2FrtzPkMbh1KQDs4zR%2BwrYURL2qD0esrHu9vgDNHFo2pdmBdanDNG7EhX%2FpVQVNAJR5nKkzBb304CP15PmJ02R7eQirO32YU5umR7LbErMERYirCze5sNwniMOVC%2FaXSgXf7po6N5Op5ZStMHD6tsH5aD4H1noYH8evxITpxt9VU5nZvDHLW9BXhxsPtZha5%2B6Kw3LCbgAqOSyyjBbmsL2gqR4xFRQCBZB%2Fk3%2FjsQohL%2FNn2k4tfQvs0fX1Tob4JlZ6f9LTUzeidABVqJ5MmdTCSifFjyWY7rAtr9ObaIuodzWzd4jzCu3a0u5SufRUZr8ceE8FvqKfhhi38LYNcoYSl%2Bwbz57QSP8mex5mKhXzEfVe4uqMDHGVoMNgbAvdtelyfwaZRBpqdA6MfE9H7kNXrtyslDFoOQokVtvZoWT3jtIx5y2jNDxmkwsCbH7L3aFlkfzRZLYJYKzSCGbLyg%3D%3D&checksum=16376556199174041eb9f6cb41f4a27655b41a3c0904 "moicn.brqup")**

 

Funky names, but both ship from within the US and I've received what I've needed in just a few days.

 

[jblough99]

> @mah2010 said:

> Has anyone found weights that r less than 10 grams? If so where is the best place to purchase them? Unfortunately I just found out ping doesn’t make lighter than 10 grams. Lots of very cheap options on eBay but not sure on the quality

 

They are little chunks of metal, is quality really a concern as long as the weight is correct? Once installed no one would be able to tell a difference from OEM or aftermarket.

[jblough99]

> @mah2010 said:

> Has anyone found weights that r less than 10 grams? If so where is the best place to purchase them? Unfortunately I just found out ping doesn’t make lighter than 10 grams. Lots of very cheap options on eBay but not sure on the quality

 

If you need lighter than 10 grams, just get a 10 gram weight and drill it out from the back until you hit your desired weight.

[MH2]

> @jblough99 said:

> > @mah2010 said:

> > Has anyone found weights that r less than 10 grams? If so where is the best place to purchase them? Unfortunately I just found out ping doesn’t make lighter than 10 grams. Lots of very cheap options on eBay but not sure on the quality

>

> They are little chunks of metal, is quality really a concern as long as the weight is correct? Once installed no one would be able to tell a difference from OEM or aftermarket.

 

When I say quality I mean when I buy a 8 gram weight it is somewhat close to 8 grams. If the weight is correct I would consider that quality

[Wooderson]

> @jblough99 said:

> > @mah2010 said:

> > Has anyone found weights that r less than 10 grams? If so where is the best place to purchase them? Unfortunately I just found out ping doesn’t make lighter than 10 grams. Lots of very cheap options on eBay but not sure on the quality

>

> If you need lighter than 10 grams, just get a 10 gram weight and drill it out from the back until you hit your desired weight.

 

I tried to do this on a hybrid weight without a drill press and found it to be pretty tough metal. It's doable but a little tougher than expected.

[erikro]

I jut scored a mint condition LST with a tour shaft for $335!

[Kale_m]

> @erikro said:

> I jut scored a mint condition LST with a tour shaft for $335!

 

You won’t be sorry.

 

Such a good driver, playing the best setup I have even had right now

[Tyler K]

Had the plus which I liked a lot but trying the LST now. Played the plus -1 flat, weight in toe. I fight a hook and the same settings give me the lefts with the LST. 9* flat puts me in the upper 2000s spin. So far best flight and ball speed with this one has been -1 (open) with weight in the toe.

[jjmurry]

Anyone with the LST in the flat setting (big minus) have issues turning the ball over? Does moving the weight to the heel help significantly or is it not even worth it to change it?

[Deuce78]

Changing the weight does help with shaping your shots. It doesnt mean you cant hit a fade in draw setting or draw in fade setting. And it depends on how heavy or light your weight is as well. If you are trying for a draw I would take it out of flat setting and move the weight to the heel.

[Marco Colo]

> @cliche said:

> sorry for the slight of topic, but when did the 410 came out? actually more interested to know when to follow up will release. spring 2020?

 

More likely Autumn 2020. 18 months cycle

[SwooshLT]

I'm not the player this is designed for......however the G410 LST just works ! Flatter flight .....yes ,maybe should have tried the + head in 9* .....but with the 10.5* + head I'd get this loopy super high flight.....no bueno.

 

I feel the LST allows me more control , more of what I'm accustomed to seeing......more to follow

[Kale_m]

Some lst numbers . 8 loft, weight in the middle. Pro white 70tx at 44.5”. Going to go back to 45” though as I find I am missing it low and towards the toe a touch.

 

 

[puresurfr]

> @Kale_m said:

> Some lst numbers . 8 loft, weight in the middle. Pro white 70tx at 44.5”. Going to go back to 45” though as I find I am missing it low and towards the toe a touch.

>

>

>

 

Azimuth is 0 and thus sidespin is 0....thats better than a robot and the length is nutso long !!!! That ball speed and the carry distance seem a bit off, but it is a neighborhood that i am unfamiliar with...

[Kale_m]

> @puresurfr said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > Some lst numbers . 8 loft, weight in the middle. Pro white 70tx at 44.5”. Going to go back to 45” though as I find I am missing it low and towards the toe a touch.

> >

> >

> >

>

> Azimuth is 0 and thus sidespin is 0....thats better than a robot and the length is nutso long !!!! That ball speed and the carry distance seem a bit off, but it is a neighborhood that i am unfamiliar with...

 

We are at 3500 ft of elevation here

 

I have some trackman numbers as well that show the same thing. Can post those as well

[puresurfr]

No its good, I'm sure those numbers are correct, as i said im not used to such long numbers....not many guys i play with are 360 yards away and wondering whether to play it one cup left or inside right edge. Haha i can't even see that car !

[SwooshLT]

> @Kale_m said:

> > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > @Kale_m said:

> > > Traded my plus for the lst

> > >

> > > Wow

> > >

> > > Why did I wait this long to do this...

> > >

> > > This thing is unreal! Put the pw70tx in it and this might be the best feeling, sounding and performing combo i have ever bagged!!

> >

> > What changed? Flight, spin, dispersion?

>

> Everything

>

> Flight is lower and more penetrating

> Sound is way better

> And no left misses/ had to play the plus at a lower loft and flat to stay away from the left side.

>

> Spin looks lower to my eye (will get numbers soon)

>

> Just could not miss with it. Shaft is new to me to in the tensei pro white 70tx

 

 

 

Ok,ok,ok.......I'm NOT beastly like yourself! However I'm much better with low spin driver heads for some odd reason....2008 superdeep, epic flash sub zero etc......well I tried the 410 plus and got steady shots but poor flights and seemingly over spinning ballooning high shots.....this was a 10.5 head mine you and I should have tried the 9* head....instead I'd took the plus back and grabbed a 9* LST figuring I could loft up if necessary....

 

Well this head definitely hits it a flatter trajectory (which fits my eye) and looks far more trustworthy.....also has taken the right side out(I'm a lefty/southpaw/portsider) and the the plus didn't do this as well.

 

The one negative FOR ME has been the feel and sound are firmer and louder....again I'm only 90ish mph guy but it's not obnoxious in any way ......much better club for my game despite losing a bit of carry.....I've gained back the rollout.....this club plays similar to the epic flash sub zero but more consistent.

[ian-500]

I have a LST on it's way with an Aldila Black Mamba 70tx. Let's see how it goes. Can't wait.

[DFS PFD]

How are high speed players liking the LST?

[BadGolfer1989]

By far the best driver of 2019, I played them all and this one is miles ahead

[simshawk]

My 410 LST w/ Black Evenflow just arrived, damn rain has kept me from taking it out.