Daly gets cart at PGA

[rangersgoalie]

Would be interesting to go back in time to Casey’s decision and present a picture of Daly in a cart at Bethpage to show where the case was at this time

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @Ferguson said:

> Daly is treating this event as he's treated everything in life - with blatant disregard for what is right and just. This is about him.

 

Sounds like you had already made up your mind before this cart arrangement anyhow.

[North Texas]

> @Joker91 said:

> > @"North Texas" said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > @proguy said:

> > > > > Man, you read internet forums and you realize people are so bitter. Get some therapy. The guy has a medical issue, the cart will not be seen on TV. The fans love him because he is one of the guys. It really is no big deal.

> > > >

> > > > Good grief. People are not bitter and they don't need therapy just because they have a different opinion than you about something. It's a freaking discussion board where people discuss different topics and have opinions. Yours is no better than anyone else's.

> > >

> > > It's not a difference of opinion that's the problem, it's their whole attitude. They are bitter angry petty people who are trying to impose their superior attitude on everyone else.

> >

> > Really? You are able to discern someone's "superior" attitude from reading what they post and that they are bitter, angry, and petty? Gimme a break.

>

> Yes, the "Really?" and "Gimme a break" are a dead give away

 

Are they as much of a dead give away as you saying that you're just laughing at guys? Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

[bscinstnct]

> @new2g0lf said:

> Anyone who hasn't walked Bethpage Black is ignorant to the fact that walking that course is definitely part of the challenge of the course. By 13 your legs know you've walked a ton and that's just playing one day, can't imagine 4 days in a row. JD is being given a huge advantage.

 

Good, he needs all the help he can get. Let him tee off from the forward tees too. He still won't win or even make the cut.

 

I don't mind the cart for him. He is a previous winner and has no chance. Fans like him, let him cruise around.

[Joker91]

> @"North Texas" said:

> > @Joker91 said:

> > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > > @proguy said:

> > > > > > Man, you read internet forums and you realize people are so bitter. Get some therapy. The guy has a medical issue, the cart will not be seen on TV. The fans love him because he is one of the guys. It really is no big deal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good grief. People are not bitter and they don't need therapy just because they have a different opinion than you about something. It's a freaking discussion board where people discuss different topics and have opinions. Yours is no better than anyone else's.

> > > >

> > > > It's not a difference of opinion that's the problem, it's their whole attitude. They are bitter angry petty people who are trying to impose their superior attitude on everyone else.

> > >

> > > Really? You are able to discern someone's "superior" attitude from reading what they post and that they are bitter, angry, and petty? Gimme a break.

> >

> > Yes, the "Really?" and "Gimme a break" are a dead give away

>

> Are they as much of a dead give away as you saying that you're just laughing at guys? Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

 

Dead give away of what?

[FairwaysToHeaven]

> @Circaflex said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > So the provision for a cart shouldn't exist? The waiver request process in there for a reason. An otherwise competitive golfer shouldn't use every tool at their disposal to play? It's also a potentially legal issue with with ADA rules with access to courses, a la Casey Martin. If he can hit shots, he can play. To me it's very simple.

> >

> > So you would be OK with an NBA player riding and shooting?

>

> That is a terrible comparison. The game of basketball is all about running up and down the court, the fastest. Golf isnt even close to that type of sport.

 

Suppose every professional skier was required to climb the mountain by foot prior to skiing down it, and some skier comes along and claims he has a bum knee and gets a free ride up. would that be an advantage?

[Joker91]

> @HoosierMizuno said:

> > @Circaflex said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > So the provision for a cart shouldn't exist? The waiver request process in there for a reason. An otherwise competitive golfer shouldn't use every tool at their disposal to play? It's also a potentially legal issue with with ADA rules with access to courses, a la Casey Martin. If he can hit shots, he can play. To me it's very simple.

> > >

> > > So you would be OK with an NBA player riding and shooting?

> >

> > That is a terrible comparison. The game of basketball is all about running up and down the court, the fastest. Golf isnt even close to that type of sport.

>

> Suppose every professional skier was required to climb the mountain by foot prior to skiing down it, and some skier comes along and claims he has a bum knee and gets a free ride up. would that be an advantage?

 

I'd think the bum knee would have them starting at a disadvantage already

[bscinstnct]

> @HoosierMizuno said:

> > @Circaflex said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > So the provision for a cart shouldn't exist? The waiver request process in there for a reason. An otherwise competitive golfer shouldn't use every tool at their disposal to play? It's also a potentially legal issue with with ADA rules with access to courses, a la Casey Martin. If he can hit shots, he can play. To me it's very simple.

> > >

> > > So you would be OK with an NBA player riding and shooting?

> >

> > That is a terrible comparison. The game of basketball is all about running up and down the court, the fastest. Golf isnt even close to that type of sport.

>

> Suppose every professional skier was required to climb the mountain by foot prior to skiing down it, and some skier comes along and claims he has a bum knee and gets a free ride up. would that be an advantage?

 

; )

 

 

[gvogel]

> @HoosierMizuno said:

> > @Circaflex said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > So the provision for a cart shouldn't exist? The waiver request process in there for a reason. An otherwise competitive golfer shouldn't use every tool at their disposal to play? It's also a potentially legal issue with with ADA rules with access to courses, a la Casey Martin. If he can hit shots, he can play. To me it's very simple.

> > >

> > > So you would be OK with an NBA player riding and shooting?

> >

> > That is a terrible comparison. The game of basketball is all about running up and down the court, the fastest. Golf isnt even close to that type of sport.

>

> Suppose every professional skier was required to climb the mountain by foot prior to skiing down it, and some skier comes along and claims he has a bum knee and gets a free ride up. would that be an advantage?

 

If that was part of the requirement to win the competition, then a free ride up would be an advantage. It would also be against the rules.

[bscinstnct]

> @gvogel said:

> > @HoosierMizuno said:

> > > @Circaflex said:

> > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > > So the provision for a cart shouldn't exist? The waiver request process in there for a reason. An otherwise competitive golfer shouldn't use every tool at their disposal to play? It's also a potentially legal issue with with ADA rules with access to courses, a la Casey Martin. If he can hit shots, he can play. To me it's very simple.

> > > >

> > > > So you would be OK with an NBA player riding and shooting?

> > >

> > > That is a terrible comparison. The game of basketball is all about running up and down the court, the fastest. Golf isnt even close to that type of sport.

> >

> > Suppose every professional skier was required to climb the mountain by foot prior to skiing down it, and some skier comes along and claims he has a bum knee and gets a free ride up. would that be an advantage?

>

> If that was part of the requirement to win the competition, then a free ride up would be an advantage. It would also be against the rules.

 

You guys are just messin with me now, right? lol

[cdnglf]

Would like to see someone try this at Augusta...

[bmurph]

I say ban caddies too, everyone should carry their own clubs and calculate their own yardages

[Joker91]

Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

[North Texas]

> @Joker91 said:

> Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

 

Heard the guys on ITR radio this morning say that he has his game in shape and is playing some really golf right now. So he's got that going for him.

[SMcGavin1]

> @Joker91 said:

> Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

 

Nope just takes the focus off of the golf, to this sideshow. If he is so hurt he shouldn't play, go back to the Champions Tour. Being so overweight and unhealthy that you can't even walk 18 holes is a bad representation of golf and isn't what the sport needs. USGA had it right, he should walk if he wants to play.

[ckay]

That cart is going to flip over if it's wet. I just don't know how he's going to get around a few holes in the golf cart.

[new2g0lf]

> @Joker91 said:

> Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

[DFS PFD]

> @new2g0lf said:

> > @Joker91 said:

> > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

 

And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

[new2g0lf]

> @"DFS PFD" said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

>

> And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

[North Texas]

> @"DFS PFD" said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

>

> And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

 

Isn't the other side of the revolving door issue the fact that you are at a disadvantage in any sport you play if you have an ailment or injury?

[new2g0lf]

> @Joker91 said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > >

> > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

>

> This is some serious grasping at straws

Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

[new2g0lf]

> @Joker91 said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > >

> > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > >

> > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

>

> I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

So does any guy with a bad back or knee get to ride in a cart during a PGA Tournament in your world? Do you not consider walking to be part of the competition and therefore want to see everyone ride in a cart?

[new2g0lf]

> @Joker91 said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > > > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

> > >

> > > I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

> > So does any guy with a bad back or knee get to ride in a cart during a PGA Tournament in your world? Do you not consider walking to be part of the competition and therefore want to see everyone ride in a cart?

>

> I'm not the one to make the call, the PGA is and they approved it. That's a nice strawman you got going there though. One old guy with a knee issues means all players should get a cart. Nice try, but not really

You're defending one old out of shape guy that claims he can't walk and gets to ride in a cart so why shouldn't anyone with a injury? What's the determining factors?

[North Texas]

> @Joker91 said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > >

> > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > >

> > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

>

> I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

 

I hear you. Just a bunch of old guys in here with superior attitudes who like to complain. Wait. You've already said that haven't you? I guess we all really need to start paying more attention to what you post so we know how to act and think and come down off our high horse.

[DFS PFD]

> @new2g0lf said:

> > @Joker91 said:

> > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > > > > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

> > > >

> > > > I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

> > > So does any guy with a bad back or knee get to ride in a cart during a PGA Tournament in your world? Do you not consider walking to be part of the competition and therefore want to see everyone ride in a cart?

> >

> > I'm not the one to make the call, the PGA is and they approved it. That's a nice strawman you got going there though. One old guy with a knee issues means all players should get a cart. Nice try, but not really

> You're defending one old out of shape guy that claims he can't walk and gets to ride in a cart so why shouldn't anyone with a injury? What's the determining factors?

 

I'm sure they were discussed with the PGA officials with far less emotion or sentient to "that's how golf is supposed to be"

[Jc0]

> @"DFS PFD" said:

> > @new2g0lf said:

> > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > > > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > > > > > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

> > > > So does any guy with a bad back or knee get to ride in a cart during a PGA Tournament in your world? Do you not consider walking to be part of the competition and therefore want to see everyone ride in a cart?

> > >

> > > I'm not the one to make the call, the PGA is and they approved it. That's a nice strawman you got going there though. One old guy with a knee issues means all players should get a cart. Nice try, but not really

> > You're defending one old out of shape guy that claims he can't walk and gets to ride in a cart so why shouldn't anyone with a injury? What's the determining factors?

>

> I'm sure they were discussed with the PGA officials with far less emotion or sentient to "that's how golf is supposed to be"

 

He is considered legally handicapped because of the issues with his knee. He is registered as handicapped in his home state. It becomes a legal issues because is it definned that walking is essential to compete? If not then he can say that it is discriminatory that he can't play due to his handicap, but could if accommodations for it are made

[Barfolomew]

> @gvogel said:

> > @Barfolomew said:

> > Let them wear carts....and shorts too. Cause who gives a fluck...

> >

> > Ive got foot neuropathy and never walk....can't. Speeds game up and lets disabled people beat the **** outta healthy mofos for once... to make it fair let everyone who wants ride.

> >

> > You think it would have any effect on ratings if all were driving? **** no...cause were watching shots not driving carts lol

>

> are you kidding me? If they were all riding, it would look like a circus, and not professional at all. I believe it would be a turn-off for a lot of golf fans.

 

Have you ever played golf? Never looks like a circus when I play golf at courses where carts are mandatory.... it looks like golf. Overreacting bud..

[new2g0lf]

> @Jc0 said:

> > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > > @"DFS PFD" said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @new2g0lf said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @Joker91 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Do some of you think that using the cart makes him the favorite to win now or even have a chance at a top 50 finish? A cart isn't going to make the 1836th ranked player in the world a contender.

> > > > > > > > > > > Point is he's being given an advantage regardless of where he places. If he finishes 50th, he's stealing money from the guys that finished 51st and after.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > And if he has to walk with an ailment or injury he's at a disadvantage, it's a revolving door issue.

> > > > > > > > > Walking is part of the sport, Day and Tiger have bad backs, they aren't asking for a cart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is some serious grasping at straws

> > > > > > > Nope, anyone can claim an injury they have places them at a disadvantage to compete or makes it difficult for them to compete. I get you're a Daly fan and just want to justify his right to use the cart to compete but it's bogus. He should lose weight and get himself into shape rather than ask for special treatment in order to compete.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm an anti faux controversy fan. That's all this is, you guys clutching your pearls over a non issue. You just want to blame his weight and ignore the actual medial issue with his knee. It's pathetic

> > > > > So does any guy with a bad back or knee get to ride in a cart during a PGA Tournament in your world? Do you not consider walking to be part of the competition and therefore want to see everyone ride in a cart?

> > > >

> > > > I'm not the one to make the call, the PGA is and they approved it. That's a nice strawman you got going there though. One old guy with a knee issues means all players should get a cart. Nice try, but not really

> > > You're defending one old out of shape guy that claims he can't walk and gets to ride in a cart so why shouldn't anyone with a injury? What's the determining factors?

> >

> > I'm sure they were discussed with the PGA officials with far less emotion or sentient to "that's how golf is supposed to be"

>

> He is considered legally handicapped because of the issues with his knee. He is registered as handicapped in his home state. It becomes a legal issues because is it definned that walking is essential to compete? If not then he can say that it is discriminatory that he can't play due to his handicap, but could if accommodations for it are made

 

He's got a handicap sticker in Florida, they are handed out like lollipops at a bank. He's also diabetic and suffering from dizzy spells, why don't we let him hit form the ladies tees too. What a mess.

[DFS PFD]

As far as the back injury argument is concerned, is walking typically the limiting factor for someone playing golf with a back injury, or is it swinging the club? Daly can swing the club but walking is difficult because of an injury so not even remotely a valid argument. (FWIW I am the furthest thing from a Daly fan, he's an incredible waste of talent and the human body)

[bulls9999]

I agree. I thought at first they were talking about the Champions Tour....but the PGA Tour?, come on. If you can't play, sit out.

Personally, I'd like to see a (one, at least just 1) PGA Tour event played like most high school/college kids.... you carry your own bag, no caddies. I'd be glued to the screen watching that one.

 

> @Ferguson said:

> I do not agree with carts at pro events. Walk or give your spot to someone who can walk.