You vs Koepka in a handicapped match

[Lodestone]

> @dan360 said:

> He can keep all 14 clubs. Match play. Stroke play is for wussies.

>

> I get gimmies inside 8 feet. I get to break one of his fingers--OF MY CHOOSING--per side, and as a compromise his gf can walk with us wearing something OF MY CHOOSING while heckling me about being fat.

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> Pretty sure it'll come down to me losing 7&5 or something but it will be a round neither of us will ever forget.

let us know when this happens. I'll be in the gallery.

[Zen_Golfer]

If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

[dlygrisse]

I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

 

> @Zengolfer36 said:

> If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

 

 

[JAMH03]

What a fun post!

 

Sadly when the answer starts getting to be down to a 7 iron... I'll just bow out now.

 

Well played Brooks well played

 

 

[Carl Spackler3]

If he used a broomstick he’d beat me by 30

[Zen_Golfer]

> @dlygrisse said:

> I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

>

> > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

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>

 

Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

[CaddiesFault]

When i worked at The Ocean Course on Kiawah, we had 2 caddies who were scratch players play $100 match: 1 played the tips with his full set, the other played from the womens tee with a 7i. The 7i won by a mile. Brooks would whoop 99% of us or more with 1 club. He hit a GW 180yds at bethpage....The only way im beating him is if he has a putter and maybe a sand wedge.

[CaddiesFault]

> @Zengolfer36 said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

> >

> > > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

> >

> >

>

> Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

> IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

 

Its happened on tour plenty of times where a player has broken his putter and finished the round putting with an iron. They are way better than you think putting with any club. Seen players play under par putting with a 5i.

[Ty_Webb]

> @Zengolfer36 said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

> >

> > > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

> >

> >

>

> Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

> IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

 

> @Zengolfer36 said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

> >

> > > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

> >

> >

>

> Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

> IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

 

What’s your handicap? You think you could give up distance to the best player in the world right now and still beat him? If he’s outdriving you with his irons, you have no chance of beating him. If you could beat him under those circumstances you’d be a household name.

[taporsnap17]

He'd beat me just armed with a hand wedge

[MtlJeff]

> @taporsnap17 said:

> He'd beat me just armed with a hand wedge

 

Hand wedge should only be used when others are not watching

[DavePelz4]

Having given this serious thought, I know believe I can beat him straight up, full set of clubs vs full set of clubs from the tips. Yep, I'm a double digit handicap, my average drive is 240, and I won't stay at a Holiday Inn Express. The caveat is Mrs. Pelz's mother is his caddie and rooms with him the night before. After about 2 holes of of whining, bitching and complaining about everything from what he's wearing to his demeanor, how he passed gas while she was trying to sleep, how much the bag weighs, everything that's wrong with his girlfriend, how he doesn't have a career that is going anywhere, he will be overwhelmed and politely but quickly concede the match just to get away from her.

 

 

[BB28403]

Do we handicap him in the knee with the lead pipe or the arm with the candlestick?

[Golfjack]

I mean have you guys seen Sadlowski smash putter 200 plus yards? I think he'd shoot under 80 on a course without carry penalties (ravines, lakes). Otherwise I think putter only is my best bet. He can probably take a 60 degree and shoot bogey golf on a long course. If he even has so much as a 9 iron, I think he can make it around in a couple strokes over par.

[BNGL]

> @Zengolfer36 said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

> >

> > > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

> >

> >

>

> Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

> IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

 

Putting with a wedge isn’t that difficult especially at the PGA Tour level.

 

 

 

 

[bladehunter]

Eh. He’s not that big of an old boy.

 

[SBH9458]

Get me on the forward tees and take away everything from his bag, give him a left hand putter. And I think I could stay close. Close.

[c7015]

Give him 3 clubs (his choice) and full handicap and maybe I have a chance on my own course.

[cdnglf]

If you took away all his clubs, he could still break 85 at Augusta from the back tees with no caddy under Sunday Masters conditions.

[tatertot]

But what can he do with a taped up Dr. Pepper bottle?

[bladehunter]

I’ll play devils advocate.

 

Isn’t this guy human ? Pees poops etc ? 1000s of players on earth that could beat him anywhere on any given day.

[cardoustie]

As a legit 3, could I have a chance with 18 shots from the tips at Bethpage? At 51 I can still fly it 270 fwiw. Thoughts?

Maybe he'd have to lose the driver and I get to be up 1 set of tees

[jmvargas]

sometime in late 70s and early 80s I commented to my friends that I thought I was the best 10 handicapper in the world because as a weekend golfer I was shooting many really low scores on my good days--ie--even or under par--and that if Jack Nicklaus gave me one stroke a hole I could probably beat him at my home course..

...probably same feeling with BK now if we could turn back the clock!!

 

[bscinstnct]

> @cardoustie said:

> As a legit 3, could I have a chance with 18 shots from the tips at Bethpage? At 51 I can still fly it 270 fwiw. Thoughts?

> Maybe he'd have to lose the driver and I get to be up 1 set of tees

 

OP said on "your course". So, I guess figure what you shoot from forward tees and what BK would shoot from tips/tournament tees without a driver.

[PowderedToastMan]

Disclaimer: this isn't meant to be a brag, just a really honest post that I think is mildly interesting and should create some interesting conversation.

 

For a time, I held the course record at my course. 7,100 yards par 72 from the tips, I shot 64 years ago (was a +4 at the time). If I was given a month's notice to prepare for my round with Brooks, I think I could get back to the point where I could guarantee a score between 67-74 ( I would definitely take a month off work to prepare for such a round). The course record is now 62, which was shot by a guy who is now doing pretty good on the MacKenzie Tour. It is his home course FYI.

 

There's not a lot of trouble, and the course is way above sea-level, so Brooks would be hitting his 3 iron 260+. However, he'd be playing in Open Championship type winds on small greens that are unique. If Brooks is playing it for the first time, I'd expect 63-67 his first time out with all his clubs. With no woods, I'd expect 68-72.

 

All that laid out, I think I should win if Brooks started at 5 iron, and I think it would be 50/50 if he had no woods. I'm not a tour level player, but I'm also no slouch. Brooks is a phenomenal player but taking away his driver and woods takes away the biggest weapon in his arsenal and I think my wedges into greens can beat his 6 and 7 irons.

[cardoustie]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > As a legit 3, could I have a chance with 18 shots from the tips at Bethpage? At 51 I can still fly it 270 fwiw. Thoughts?

> > Maybe he'd have to lose the driver and I get to be up 1 set of tees

>

> OP said on "your course". So, I guess figure what you shoot from forward tees and what BK would shoot from tips/tournament tees without a driver.

Let's see

On my course from the tips it is 7,000. One up is 6,800. Crazy tight course with small greens. Local knowledge helps a lot

I think worst case I shoot 79 and 18 shots gives me a solid chance. He could shoot 62 and if I crap the bed and go over 80 it would not be pretty

 

[MtlJeff]

> @bladehunter said:

> I’ll play devils advocate.

>

> Isn’t this guy human ? Pees poops etc ? 1000s of players on earth that could beat him anywhere on any given day.

 

Yeah I agree. I mean he's 100x better than me. But something like just a 60 degree wedge? Even Brooks isn't hitting every green in regulation , and even the best player in the world isn't going 100% on up and downs putting with a wedge.

 

If you can shoot 72-75 on a 6700 yd course I'm sure you could find a manageable game with Brooks, if he could only use 2-3 clubs.

 

If he got like, 3 wood ,SW and putter though I'd have no chance LoL. You'd have to take away putter and any longer club

[bladehunter]

> @PowderedToastMan said:

> Disclaimer: this isn't meant to be a brag, just a really honest post that I think is mildly interesting and should create some interesting conversation.

>

> For a time, I held the course record at my course. 7,100 yards par 72 from the tips, I shot 64 years ago (was a +4 at the time). If I was given a month's notice to prepare for my round with Brooks, I think I could get back to the point where I could guarantee a score between 67-74 ( I would definitely take a month off work to prepare for such a round). The course record is now 62, which was shot by a guy who is now doing pretty good on the MacKenzie Tour. It is his home course FYI.

>

> There's not a lot of trouble, and the course is way above sea-level, so Brooks would be hitting his 3 iron 260+. However, he'd be playing in Open Championship type winds on small greens that are unique. If Brooks is playing it for the first time, I'd expect 63-67 his first time out with all his clubs. With no woods, I'd expect 68-72.

>

> All that laid out, I think I should win if Brooks started at 5 iron, and I think it would be 50/50 if he had no woods. I'm not a tour level player, but I'm also no slouch. Brooks is a phenomenal player but taking away his driver and woods takes away the biggest weapon in his arsenal and I think my wedges into greens can beat his 6 and 7 irons.

 

That’s kind of my point. My course record is 63 shot some 12 years ago.and it’s played occasionally by 3 current pga tour players and one champ tour guy who live near me. Also included are two US am final 18 players from last year who are currently UGA guys. Etc. I’ve shot 65 in comp once.

 

Several here will surely say this is a brag. But he’d have to shoot a score . You don’t just walk out of the car park and get awarded a score from past records. I refuse to believe he’d just walk up and shoot 62. Again. Flesh and bones. Anything is possible.

[bladehunter]

> @MtlJeff said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > I’ll play devils advocate.

> >

> > Isn’t this guy human ? Pees poops etc ? 1000s of players on earth that could beat him anywhere on any given day.

>

> Yeah I agree. I mean he's 100x better than me. But something like just a 60 degree wedge? Even Brooks isn't hitting every green in regulation , and even the best player in the world isn't going 100% on up and downs putting with a wedge.

>

> If you can shoot 72-75 on a 6700 yd course I'm sure you could find a manageable game with Brooks, if he could only use 2-3 clubs.

>

> If he got like, 3 wood ,SW and putter though I'd have no chance LoL. You'd have to take away putter and any longer club

 

 

Exactly. I’m not trying to draw comparisons either. But start handicapping him in anyway and there are hoards of guys whod take him down.

[MidwestGolfBum]

> @BNGL said:

> > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > I doubt it. You don’t think Brooks could shoot under par with just irons? Unless you are a +5 handicap my money is on BK.

> > >

> > > > @Zengolfer36 said:

> > > > If he couldnt use his woods, hybrids and putter, Id beat him.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Im actually sure he could probably outdrive me even with just his irons. I do think not having his putter would mess him up though. You ever tried putting with a wedge or iron? Unless its a tap in, good luck.

> > IMO, much of BK's game is that he drives the ball a mile. Take away the clubs that help him do that and I think hed be gettable.

>

> Putting with a wedge isn’t that difficult especially at the PGA Tour level.

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When I'm playing causally with my girlfriend or just out for a round with buddies where we aren't playing for anything, I will only bring one club to the green with me, so if I'm off the green wedge for putting it is. I can, very honestly, say that putting with a wedge really isn't that hard, at least for me. I don't know that I putt a whole lot differently with the wedge than I do my putter.