New TM p790 irons ???

[TheMoneyShot]

> @GoGoErky said:

> > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > Any videos that compare the regular P790 vs P790 Ti out there yet?

>

> I think Alex etches did one

 

Yes, he just did a review on the P790 Ti. It was not a head to head one though.

[Lumberjack627]

I want these irons so bad just don’t know it it’s worth an upgrade from AP3s

[Lefty87]

> @Lumberjack627 said:

> I want these irons so bad just don’t know it it’s worth an upgrade from AP3s

It depends on what you’re looking for. I saw a sizable increase in carry distance from AP3 to P790. I found the P790 more forgiving as well.

 

[jll62]

> @hankmoody said:

> > @jll62 said:

> > > @hankmoody said:

> > > Rick Shiels comparison to 17 P790:

> > >

> > >

> > > Bottom line: He loves them, but found no difference in performance between models. Noted that the 19 P790s steel shafts are .25 longer than the 17 version. Did acknowledge TM's thinner face and more tungsten composition. I note that the offset difference is really small: --1-2 mm and only in the 4-6i. From 7 on offset is the same between the 17 and 19 version. (I don't know if I would be able to discern this, particularly as I go down to the 5i only.)

> > > Shiels view: they kept a good thing good. A 24% price increase is material.

> >

> > A couple of things from Rick's video. First, the club length spec is not the sneaky little change as he makes it out to be. TaylorMade changed how they measure clubs in late 2018, well after the P790 was initially released. TM now uses the USGA 60 degree ruler as opposed to their old method that almost no one else was using. This change meant that, on paper, the measured length of clubs went up by a small amount ( about 1/8") because of the different way of measuring. They then rounded up to the next quarter of an inch so that their specs weren't on eighths of an inch intervals. So the 6 iron spec changed from 37.25" on the old ruler to 37.5" on the new ruler (different method plus 1/8"). Had Rick measured the 2017 and 2019 clubs side-by-side on the same ruler, he'd have seen that there is only a 1/8" difference between the two. No one is gaining ball speed with 1/8" of extra length.

> >

> > I don't see a 24% price increase, from a US perspective at least. The 2017 P790 released at $1299 and the 2019 model is $1399. That's a $100 increase, or 7.7%.

> >

> > Finally, the thinner face is for more ball speed but not out of the center. It's combined with a change to the inverted cone behind the face to preserve ball speed on off-center hits and make heel and toe hits play more similar.

>

> Excellent points. And to me at least, they point toward the 19 version being more similar to the 17 version than different. I don't think that's a bad thing, BTW, and if they come out on top in my own testing, I will purchase the 19s.

 

100% agree. A nice refinement and smoothing off of a few rough edges. TaylorMade knows the P790 was a hit and they weren't going to rock the boat. And for the average person, a set of irons is a 4-5 year purchase. They aren't trying to win anyone over who's already playing P790.

[texasdave]

> @arobbins3 said:

> I saw the new irons and UDI yesterday. They do look better, IMO. I did not get to swing, but they do look nice!

 

Shorter blade length?

 

 

[Brennanf]

Saw a few vids. Seem to be very similar to the older ones. Like the 770 better I think

[Lefty87]

I’m surprised we haven’t seen more pictures from those who have hit them. I guess tomorrow is the official date for fittings to begin?

[BiggErn]

> @texasdave said:

> > @arobbins3 said:

> > I saw the new irons and UDI yesterday. They do look better, IMO. I did not get to swing, but they do look nice!

>

> Shorter blade length?

>

>

 

In the short irons yes but it’s very minimal. There is no huge difference between this version and last.

[icandy]

> @arobbins3 said:

> > @texasdave said:

> > > @arobbins3 said:

> > > I saw the new irons and UDI yesterday. They do look better, IMO. I did not get to swing, but they do look nice!

> >

> > Shorter blade length?

> >

> >

>

> I'm not exactly sure. They looked real nice lol

 

They should be the same blade length if they are still called P790, 79mm blade length

[TheMoneyShot]

> @icandy said:

> > @arobbins3 said:

> > > @texasdave said:

> > > > @arobbins3 said:

> > > > I saw the new irons and UDI yesterday. They do look better, IMO. I did not get to swing, but they do look nice!

> > >

> > > Shorter blade length?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I'm not exactly sure. They looked real nice lol

>

> They should be the same blade length if they are still called P790, 79mm blade length

 

Thad correct! Same blade lengths as the previous model.

[dpb5031]

Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

[JoeJoeJoeUrBoat]

I can imagine some of them combining these with the 760s. Perhaps in the 3-5 irons. I’m going for the full set of these. Wondering if anyone is trying these out today as they’re supposed to be on fitting racks now?

[GoGoErky]

> @dpb5031 said:

> Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

 

I don’t recall anyone having them in the bag. Some had/have the udi

[EricWGolf]

> @dpb5031 said:

> Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

Every now and then you will see a long iron (3 or 4) in a tour players bag. Definitely some P790 UDIs in tour bags.

 

[dpb5031]

> @EricWGolf said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

> Every now and then you will see a long iron (3 or 4) in a tour players bag. Definitely some P790 UDIs in tour bags.

>

 

Interesting. My daughter (D1 College player) plays a blended set with 770s up to 8 iron, and 5,6,7 in the 790s with Nippon 105s. I think they've been loft adjusted for distance gapping. She produces some beautiful ball flights with the 790s. I have tried her 790s on the range several times and was very impressed with the feel as well as flight. For some reason I expected something different and less pleasing from a hollow bodied iron. I guess the foam does it's job? They don't feel like an MB blade, but they're not the least bit "clanky," and they go thru the turf as well as my irons. For ref., I'm a 1 HC and play i200s with Nippon 105x that I've been very happy with.

 

I'd say anyone looking for good high but flat ball flight with some extra distance in a pretty clean looking package should have these on his short list to at least demo...

[BiggErn]

> @dpb5031 said:

> Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

 

There was a club pro in the PGA championship last year that had a full set.

[jokerusn]

> @BiggErn said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

>

> There was a club pro in the PGA championship last year that had a full set.

 

Does Mike Weir count? I think I remember his bag having a full set of 790s.

 

[gioguy21]

> @jokerusn said:

> > @BiggErn said:

> > > @dpb5031 said:

> > > Are any players on any of the pro Tours playing these? (Or the 2017 model?)

> >

> > There was a club pro in the PGA championship last year that had a full set.

>

> Does Mike Weir count? I think I remember his bag having a full set of 790s.

>

 

i think you're right (may have been a blend with the 760s tho?) -- however, i know for a fact the head pro at T bedminster had a full set...since i fit him for them.

[zeromilepost]

Here's something I found interesting. In the TM Custom Shop, with the new 2019 P790s, the KBS S Taper Lite was a no charge upgrade shaft option. Retail these are $60 shafts. When I upgraded my 718 AP2 to the original S Taper, it was $30 extra w Titleist. I was originally thinking about getting gen1 heads and putting my own shafts in. Gen 2 P790s with the S Taper Lite is almost comparable price wise.

 

I like the S Taper (120g stiff) but could go down in weight a little bit. Think I could go with the S Taper Lite in X-Stiff??? Should be 105 grams in a Taper Tip. Thoughts???

 

[Lumberjack627]

@Lefty87

I am probably going to go the club tomorrow and demo them vs my AP3 and see if I get getter results like you.

[elwhippy]

Still trying to work out the large price increase when several tests say zero changes in performance. TM finally running out of ideas.

[EricWGolf]

> @elwhippy said:

> Still trying to work out the large price increase when several tests say zero changes in performance. TM finally running out of ideas.

 

The price increase is $100 for a set of 8 irons. A whopping $12.50 per iron increase. Roughly a sleeve of ProV1s.

 

 

[Lumberjack627]

I don’t think that’s a bad increase at all.

[mBiden2]

> @Lumberjack627 said:

> I don’t think that’s a bad increase at all.

 

Not at all. The T line and 620 line are both 1399 too, so they’re just following the market.

[Lumberjack627]

@mBiden2

I’m going today to try them out I’ll post my thoughts when I get home. I have always played Titleist irons so I’m nervous to try these because I think I’m going to like them and get them.

[mBiden2]

> @Lumberjack627 said:

> @mBiden2

> I’m going today to try them out I’ll post my thoughts when I get home. I have always played Titleist irons so I’m nervous to try these because I think I’m going to like them and get them.

 

Nice and good luck! I’ll be interested to hear what you think about them. Hopefully you’ll be able to compare them to the new T line for titleist

[Lefty87]

> @Lumberjack627 said:

> @mBiden2

> I’m going today to try them out I’ll post my thoughts when I get home. I have always played Titleist irons so I’m nervous to try these because I think I’m going to like them and get them.

 

Which Titleist irons are you currently gaming?

[Lumberjack627]

@mBiden2

I currently game Ap3 3* upright 2* weak

So I’m going to bring 3 irons and compare for example my 6 vs taylormade 7 because my 6 iron is bent to 26 while their 7 is stock 26.5.

[Les Strokes]

> @Lumberjack627 said:

> @mBiden2

> I currently game Ap3 3* upright 2* weak

> So I’m going to bring 3 irons and compare for example my 6 vs taylormade 7 because my 6 iron is bent to 26 while their 7 is stock 26.5.

 

TM says their 7 is still at 30.5?

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/P790-Irons/DW-AL464.html?cgid=taylormade-irons&lang=default#lang=default&start=1&

[Lumberjack627]

My apologies their 7 is at 30.5. I don’t know want I was looking at lol. My 6 is bent to 30 so I will compare my 6 to their 7. My 6 is bent 2 degrees weak I put 2 degrees strong.