2019 3M Open

[KRAMER1997]

WTF Phil you're supposed to blow up on friday not thursday.

[snizzle]

> @HitEmTrue said:

> > @snizzle said:

> > Personally I believe they should convert any fed ex points potentially earned if the amateur turns professional during that season. Its not like they are worth actual $. I guess that would require extra bookkeeping and as it is they apparently can't keep proper track as I believe Brian Gay's wife was the one who found the discrepancy to keep Poulter on tour. They've shortened and condensed the season making it more difficult for kids coming out of college to earn enough fed ex points to make the KF finals.

>

> The season isn’t any shorter, and condensing the majors actually may make it EASIER for non-established players to earn fedex points.

 

What?

The playoffs now begin in early August. The kids coming out of college in June have a shorter period to earn fedex points..

[snizzle]

Tuned in for a few minutes..

Last week's course in Detroit reminded me of a Korn Ferry track.

This week's course in Minnesota looks like a Champions Tour course..

[flushem]

> @snizzle said:

> Tuned in for a few minutes..

> Last week's course in Detroit reminded me of a Korn Ferry track.

> This week's course in Minnesota looks like a Champions Tour course..

 

It has been CT course for years.

[DrivingChamp]

Did I really see tom Lehman’s name on the leaderboard?

[idrive]

> @DrivingChamp said:

> Did I really see tom Lehman’s name on the leaderboard?

 

Yup...

I'm sure being (very) familiar with the course doesn't hurt.

[HitEmTrue]

> @snizzle said:

> > @HitEmTrue said:

> > > @snizzle said:

> > > Personally I believe they should convert any fed ex points potentially earned if the amateur turns professional during that season. Its not like they are worth actual $. I guess that would require extra bookkeeping and as it is they apparently can't keep proper track as I believe Brian Gay's wife was the one who found the discrepancy to keep Poulter on tour. They've shortened and condensed the season making it more difficult for kids coming out of college to earn enough fed ex points to make the KF finals.

> >

> > The season isn’t any shorter, and condensing the majors actually may make it EASIER for non-established players to earn fedex points.

>

> What?

> The playoffs now begin in early August. The kids coming out of college in June have a shorter period to earn fedex points..

 

Oh, you literally meant the kids coming out of college their first year...I see what you mean. I was talking about up-and-comers in general. Many of the higher ranked players seem to be playing a little less between the majors with them closer together.

[Aaronwilson_95]

Assuming you graduate & your final event is nationals/regionals and can’t play a tour event before the us open and don’t qualify for the us open

You literally have 7 events between us open and fedex playoffs to get your card under the new timeline. If you have a GREAT agent who gets you into every event you still wouldn’t even have to try to Monday into an event for extra starts off your 7. With a timeline like that , good luck. You’ll either have guys who don’t finish their senior year or make it impossible for guys with an actual card to get an exemption before the end off the season

[HitEmTrue]

> @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> Assuming you graduate & your final event is nationals/regionals and can’t play a tour event before the us open and don’t qualify for the us open

> You literally have 7 events between us open and fedex playoffs to get your card under the new timeline. If you have a GREAT agent who gets you into every event you still wouldn’t even have to try to Monday into an event for extra starts off your 7. With a timeline like that , good luck. You’ll either have guys who don’t finish their senior year or make it impossible for guys with an actual card to get an exemption before the end off the season

 

Before this year, how often did someone in that situation earn enough points to get an exemption by the end of the season?

 

[the bishop]

> @KRAMER1997 said:

> WTF Phil you're supposed to blow up on friday not thursday.

 

He mailed it in to avoid meeting Alec.

[OldBridge]

Love seeing Tom Lehman on the front page of the leaderboard. I'd be thrilled if he made a run at this thing over the weekend.

[Aaronwilson_95]

Not many people have gotten special temporary membership (equivalent of last years 125th fedex member ) but a lot of guys , sorry I’m way to busy trying to get there myself , have turned those exemptions into earning the equivalent of last years 200th spot on the fedex ranking making them eligible for the Korn Ferry (web) final series those getting them a KFT card or a PGA card for the next season depending on how those 4 events turn out. This is generally a route that a lot of European tour members take that have good finishes in wgc & majors so they can be card holding pga members the following season. > @HitEmTrue said:

> > @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> > Assuming you graduate & your final event is nationals/regionals and can’t play a tour event before the us open and don’t qualify for the us open

> > You literally have 7 events between us open and fedex playoffs to get your card under the new timeline. If you have a GREAT agent who gets you into every event you still wouldn’t even have to try to Monday into an event for extra starts off your 7. With a timeline like that , good luck. You’ll either have guys who don’t finish their senior year or make it impossible for guys with an actual card to get an exemption before the end off the season

>

> Before this year, how often did someone in that situation earn enough points to get an exemption by the end of the season?

>

 

 

[grm24]

> @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> Not many people have gotten special temporary membership (equivalent of last years 125th fedex member ) but a lot of guys , sorry I’m way to busy trying to get there myself , have turned those exemptions into earning the equivalent of last years 200th spot on the fedex ranking making them eligible for the Korn Ferry (web) final series those getting them a KFT card or a PGA card for the next season depending on how those 4 events turn out. This is generally a route that a lot of European tour members take that have good finishes in wgc & majors so they can be card holding pga members the following season. > @HitEmTrue said:

> > > @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> > > Assuming you graduate & your final event is nationals/regionals and can’t play a tour event before the us open and don’t qualify for the us open

> > > You literally have 7 events between us open and fedex playoffs to get your card under the new timeline. If you have a GREAT agent who gets you into every event you still wouldn’t even have to try to Monday into an event for extra starts off your 7. With a timeline like that , good luck. You’ll either have guys who don’t finish their senior year or make it impossible for guys with an actual card to get an exemption before the end off the season

> >

> > Before this year, how often did someone in that situation earn enough points to get an exemption by the end of the season?

> >

>

>

 

Will be tougher this year with the KFT playoffs as there are only 3 playoff events as opposed to 4 in years past.

[Aaronwilson_95]

On paper that may actually make it easier but we’ll see . Under the old system a top 5 in any off the events got you your card. Likely now to be top 6 or 7 depending on how it all shakes out. > @grm24 said:

> > @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> > Not many people have gotten special temporary membership (equivalent of last years 125th fedex member ) but a lot of guys , sorry I’m way to busy trying to get there myself , have turned those exemptions into earning the equivalent of last years 200th spot on the fedex ranking making them eligible for the Korn Ferry (web) final series those getting them a KFT card or a PGA card for the next season depending on how those 4 events turn out. This is generally a route that a lot of European tour members take that have good finishes in wgc & majors so they can be card holding pga members the following season. > @HitEmTrue said:

> > > > @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> > > > Assuming you graduate & your final event is nationals/regionals and can’t play a tour event before the us open and don’t qualify for the us open

> > > > You literally have 7 events between us open and fedex playoffs to get your card under the new timeline. If you have a GREAT agent who gets you into every event you still wouldn’t even have to try to Monday into an event for extra starts off your 7. With a timeline like that , good luck. You’ll either have guys who don’t finish their senior year or make it impossible for guys with an actual card to get an exemption before the end off the season

> > >

> > > Before this year, how often did someone in that situation earn enough points to get an exemption by the end of the season?

> > >

> >

> >

>

> Will be tougher this year with the KFT playoffs as there are only 3 playoff events as opposed to 4 in years past.

 

 

[snizzle]

Jon Rahm was really the last so called 'big name' I can recall who earned his card right out of college? He had an extra month to do it as the FedEx playoffs didn't start until September.

Niemann did it last year but didn't attend college and started playing on sponsor exemptions early in the season.

If I had that kind of rare talent might just go the Niemann route.

To keep these kids in college I'd give them some incentive such as earning potential non member fed ex points in events played as an amateur..

As for the 3M it looks like Piercy had a great day yesterday. Hoping Hovland can earn a bunch of FedEx points here too.

[QuigleyDU]

Brooks'ie going swimming.

[OldTomMorris]

Good to see Sam Saunders playing well.

[flushem]

DeChambeau kicking butts

[smashdn]

> @snizzle said:

> Tuned in for a few minutes..

> Last week's course in Detroit reminded me of a Korn Ferry track.

> This week's course in Minnesota looks like a Champions Tour course..

 

Agreed. These courses. Blah. Meanwhile Euro Tour is playing at Lahinch this week.

[QuigleyDU]

Phil with the rouge back in the bag.

[jdl]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> Phil with the rouge back in the bag.

 

Using it to mark his drop area.

[Birdie Mac]

> @jdl said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > Phil with the rouge back in the bag.

>

> Using it to mark his drop area.

And matching Smylie score for score.

 

[CaymanS]

Koepka and Day missed the cut in a weak field. Phil got old suddenly. He has hung around pretty well for the past 5 years with lots of high finishes, winning a WGC event and Pebble.

[SirFuego]

> @CaymanS said:

> Koepka and Day missed the cut in a weak field.

Looks like Cameron Davis tripled the last hole, which caused him to not only miss the cut, but also move the cut line to -3. So Day and Koepka both made the cut.

[ilikegolf26]

> @SirFuego said:

> > @CaymanS said:

> > Koepka and Day missed the cut in a weak field.

> Looks like Cameron Davis tripled the last hole, which caused him to not only miss the cut, but also move the cut line to -3. So Day and Koepka both made the cut.

 

Yeah, absolutely brutal. Not sure what happened around the green as he was in a greenside bunker in 2 and then proceeded to hit his 4th shot 9 inches among other oddities. The 16 or 17 guys though that are now playing the weekend are happy about it.

[RSinSG]

I tried watching this but couldn’t stay awake. That’s probably more age related than the golf, but what I did watch wasn’t very compelling.

[Titleist_PT23]

Will be amazing if Kopeka flips the switch at the Open and has a chance to win/wins.

 

Phil's results are just horrendous after the Desert Classic and win at AT&T Pebble Beach. As mentioned above, he did pretty well in the mid-to-late 40s. In addition to the two wins, he had a real shot to grab a couple more (2016 Pebble Beach and 2016 Open plus a few others).

[cdnglf]

> @CaymanS said:

> Koepka and Day missed the cut in a weak field. Phil got old suddenly. He has hung around pretty well for the past 5 years with lots of high finishes, winning a WGC event and Pebble.

 

In fairness, Phil has “got old suddenly” after the US Open nearly every year for the last 25+ years....

[idrive]

Yah, but JDay would have made the cut with a caddie on the bag that can transform his game.... personally I think it's back firing on him.

[dcfas]

How ‘bout seeing Lumpy and T Lehman out there. I thought I was in 2002 there for a minute.