Will there be a King Forged Tour update?

[Konklifer]

They've been out for two years and only available as single irons on Cobra's site. Anyone have info?

[Sparky14]

I've seen the full sets on clearance at several places over the last week, so I suspect something new is imminent.

[phatchrisrules]

Isn't the new Cobra CB/MB Black the replacement? Has similar blade length and similar tech with the tungsten infused weights the original one lacked.

[Konklifer]

> @phatchrisrules said:

> Isn't the new Cobra CB/MB Black the replacement? Has similar blade length and similar tech with the tungsten infused weights the original one lacked.

 

No. They've always had an offering that was slightly more friendly with a little bit of tech: AMP Forged, Fly Z+ Forged, King Tour Forged.

[KRW59]

I think the Forged Tec Black are made to fit into their lineup as the multi piece forged ,

players iron .

[wam78]

Great question. The forged tour line is pretty awesome. Wish they would continue the lineup without the insert. One of my favorite things about that line was the low offset. The forged tech black are pretty great as well, just too much offset.

[calfan36]

Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

[Konklifer]

> @calfan36 said:

> Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

 

Far from it.

[Sebmour]

> @wam78 said:

> Great question. The forged tour line is pretty awesome. Wish they would continue the lineup without the insert. One of my favorite things about that line was the low offset. The forged tech black are pretty great as well, just too much offset.

 

Same here..I was thinking Forged Tec for my 3 iron but the offset was too much of an issue.

[Sebmour]

I don't see what they could to more with the irons.

One piece forged, compact, low offset, thin top line, narrow sole, great CB/MB flow set.

[calfan36]

> @Konklifer said:

> > @calfan36 said:

> > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

>

> Far from it.

 

How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

[Hubijerk]

20 bucks says they re-release them in black, or they release a Forged Tec Tour with less offset. I also think you might be seeing a hollow filled design like the 790's or PXG's coming soon. Being able to move weight around in the head (whether adjustable or with materials of different density) can be an advantage, especially in regards to single length set ups and adjusting flights... The design of the Forged Tour's is similar from gen to gen with small tweaks, mostly in weighting. I gamed a set for a little over a year and I honestly felt like they were a better AP2, they're in that design neighborhood. It's a proven design with incremental improvements over the years. Kind of like with cars, whenever a new club design is released I'm a little wary, there's something to be said for building on a solid dependable foundation. The Forged Tec's are supposed to be players Irons but the offset is off putting to most "players".

[niscur24]

Honestly the king tour forged are about as perfect as one can get in an iron. All the forgiveness tech with the insert behind the face and the tungsten in the heel/toe...AND...surprisingly minimal offset/top-line and forged feel. They aren't compact but aren't yuge either. There really isn't any room for change without turning them into the King CB's or Forged Tech's, they literally fit right in between both of those sets. The prices they are going for right now are steals for what you are getting. I would expect them to simply change the badge again like they have been doing or release a black set but sometimes there is no reason to mess with perfection.

[rsh0308]

> @calfan36 said:

> > @Konklifer said:

> > > @calfan36 said:

> > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> >

> > Far from it.

>

> How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

 

I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

[Konklifer]

> @rsh0308 said:

> > @calfan36 said:

> > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > >

> > > Far from it.

> >

> > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

>

> I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

 

Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

[calfan36]

> @Konklifer said:

> > @rsh0308 said:

> > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > > >

> > > > Far from it.

> > >

> > > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

> >

> > I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> > I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

>

> Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

 

No I was saying why bother with an update because it's likely to be the same club rebadged again. The Fly-Z+ to the King Forged Tour is 99% the same exact club

[Konklifer]

> @calfan36 said:

> > @Konklifer said:

> > > @rsh0308 said:

> > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > > > >

> > > > > Far from it.

> > > >

> > > > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

> > >

> > > I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> > > I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

> >

> > Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

>

> No I was saying why bother with an update because it's likely to be the same club rebadged again. The Fly-Z+ to the King Forged Tour is 99% the same exact club

 

They've all had incremental updates/changes. Just like iron lines across every other OEM.

[calfan36]

> @Konklifer said:

> > @calfan36 said:

> > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > @rsh0308 said:

> > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Far from it.

> > > > >

> > > > > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

> > > >

> > > > I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> > > > I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

> > >

> > > Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

> >

> > No I was saying why bother with an update because it's likely to be the same club rebadged again. The Fly-Z+ to the King Forged Tour is 99% the same exact club

>

> They've all had incremental updates/changes. Just like iron lines across every other OEM.

 

No... It isn't just like any other OEM. No other OEM has released 3 irons made from the exact same CAD file. The shape of them is IDENTICAL.

[rsh0308]

> @calfan36 said:

> > @Konklifer said:

> > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > @rsh0308 said:

> > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Far from it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

> > > > >

> > > > > I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> > > > > I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

> > > >

> > > > Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

> > >

> > > No I was saying why bother with an update because it's likely to be the same club rebadged again. The Fly-Z+ to the King Forged Tour is 99% the same exact club

> >

> > They've all had incremental updates/changes. Just like iron lines across every other OEM.

>

> No... It isn't just like any other OEM. No other OEM has released 3 irons made from the exact same CAD file. The shape of them is IDENTICAL.

 

Why do car manufacturers put out new models every year even though a true model cycle is more like every 3-6 years? Cause people buy them.

 

As for the last 3 models, there are tiny changes. Not saying you’re wrong about the CAD file or whatever. The shape is clearly the same.

Sole weighting is different between Amp Forged and latest 2 models - before, the weights were weirdly placed like on the sole in from the heel and toe, now they’re out at the end. Face has milled grooves in Forged Tour. Stock shafts from factory have changed.

 

Point is the iron is so fricken good that I hope they don’t change it much, and honestly don’t think it can get too much better without getting too close to either the Tec model or the CB model. Change the colors and people will still buy it.

 

[Hubijerk]

> @rsh0308 said:

> > @calfan36 said:

> > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > > @rsh0308 said:

> > > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > > > @Konklifer said:

> > > > > > > > > @calfan36 said:

> > > > > > > > > Doesn't really matter. All 3 clubs in the line are virtually identical

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Far from it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How are the Forged Tour different from Fly-Z to you? They literally used the same CAD file for both, told to me by an ex Cobra employee

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I’m not quite sure but it seems like you guys are talking about different things. The current “line” has Forged Tec, Forged Tour, and King Pro CB/MB. All of these are different for sure.

> > > > > > I also agree with your statement regarding Amp Forged, FlyZ+ and Forged Tour. Have owned all 3 and have the Tours now. To my recollection (don’t have them now), I remember the Amp Forged having a bit wider sole but the FlyZ+ and the Tour seem the same profile and shape. I love the minimal offset.

> > > > >

> > > > > Correct. I thought the reference was to the offerings in the current line. They are obviously different.

> > > >

> > > > No I was saying why bother with an update because it's likely to be the same club rebadged again. The Fly-Z+ to the King Forged Tour is 99% the same exact club

> > >

> > > They've all had incremental updates/changes. Just like iron lines across every other OEM.

> >

> > No... It isn't just like any other OEM. No other OEM has released 3 irons made from the exact same CAD file. The shape of them is IDENTICAL.

>

> Why do car manufacturers put out new models every year even though a true model cycle is more like every 3-6 years? Cause people buy them.

>

> As for the last 3 models, there are tiny changes. Not saying you’re wrong about the CAD file or whatever. The shape is clearly the same.

> Sole weighting is different between Amp Forged and latest 2 models - before, the weights were weirdly placed like on the sole in from the heel and toe, now they’re out at the end. Face has milled grooves in Forged Tour. Stock shafts from factory have changed.

>

> Point is the iron is so fricken good that I hope they don’t change it much, and honestly don’t think it can get too much better without getting too close to either the Tec model or the CB model. Change the colors and people will still buy it.

>

 

I agree, paint it black and call it a day. If you're looking for a higher launch low offset players iron this is one of the best.