2019 LPGA Q-School

[Argonne69]

> @golfskill98 said:

> > @18majors said:

> > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > @18majors said:

> > > >

> > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > >

> > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > List.

> > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > >

> > > > From Stage II:

> > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > >

> > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> >

> > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> >

> >

>

> Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

 

It happens quite frequently. The lower ranked LPGA players wind up on the Symetra Tour, finish in the Top 10 on the money list, and bounce back to the LPGA the next season.

[18majors]

Nice attire:

 

HYP


Muni He


 

[Krt22]

7 straight under par rounds for Muni He, impressive. Sincerely hope she carries that momentum into the next LPGA event

[18majors]

Beth Ann Nichols on Christina Kim:

 

Newly sugar-free Christina Kim is craving a status upgrade at LPGA Q-Series

[https://golfweek.com/2019/11/01/golf-christina-kim-is-craving-a-status-upgrade-at-lpga-q-series/](https://golfweek.com/2019/11/01/golf-christina-kim-is-craving-a-status-upgrade-at-lpga-q-series/ "https://golfweek.com/2019/11/01/golf-christina-kim-is-craving-a-status-upgrade-at-lpga-q-series/")

[AWinfortheAges]

> @golfskill98 said:

> > @18majors said:

> > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > @18majors said:

> > > >

> > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > >

> > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > List.

> > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > >

> > > > From Stage II:

> > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > >

> > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> >

> > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> >

> >

>

> Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

 

Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

 

Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

[Titleist_PT23]

> @AWinfortheAges said:

> > @golfskill98 said:

> > > @18majors said:

> > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > >

> > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > >

> > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > List.

> > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > >

> > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > >

> > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > >

> > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

>

> Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

>

> Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

 

Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

[ChronicSlicer]

> @Krt22 said:

> 7 straight under par rounds for Muni He, impressive. Sincerely hope she carries that momentum into the next LPGA event

 

I won't lie, I'm surprised for sure, impressed..not so much. I'll be impressed and surprised if she can contend on the LPGA.

[ChronicSlicer]

> @golfskill98 said:

> I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing.

 

Why, they are in Q series for a reason.

[Newinup]

> @agolf1 said:

> > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > > List.

> > > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > > >

> > > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > > >

> > > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

> >

> > Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

> >

> > Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

> I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

>

> Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

 

Alison is part Korean... but not beyond JLPGA to be accepting of her, there's quite a few koreans on the JLPGA now doing well (Lee Min Young etc) and of course a few taiwanese and others like Teresa Lu, Carrie Davidson etc... This would be a tough move for Alison, in part bec I think she's been raised in the States, first and foremost, and I don't think she has any roots in Japan, though not impossible. This now becomes what Alison values more: $/uprooting for Japan or easier path bk to LPGA/staying in the States. I'm aware of this as Yuka Saso, representing the Philippines, has a Symetra Card for 2020 but may have a full JLPGA Tour Card too... so we will see what Yuka does with her career. Still, my #1 Bet is Bianca! (if it's not obvious yet from all my posts) :)

[18majors]

@Newinup

 

It's obvious Bianca #1, Hinako #2; and nothing else.

[Krt22]

> @ChronicSlicer said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > 7 straight under par rounds for Muni He, impressive. Sincerely hope she carries that momentum into the next LPGA event

>

> I won't lie, I'm surprised for sure, impressed..not so much. I'll be impressed and surprised if she can contend on the LPGA.

 

Tough crowd here.

[Titleist_PT23]

> @Newinup said:

> > @agolf1 said:

> > > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > > > List.

> > > > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > > > >

> > > > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

> > >

> > > Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

> > >

> > > Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

> > I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

> >

> > Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

>

> Alison is part Korean... but not beyond JLPGA to be accepting of her, there's quite a few koreans on the JLPGA now doing well (Lee Min Young etc) and of course a few taiwanese and others like Teresa Lu, Carrie Davidson etc... This would be a tough move for Alison, in part bec I think she's been raised in the States, first and foremost, and I don't think she has any roots in Japan, though not impossible. This now becomes what Alison values more: $/uprooting for Japan or easier path bk to LPGA/staying in the States. I'm aware of this as Yuka Saso, representing the Philippines, has a Symetra Card for 2020 but may have a full JLPGA Tour Card too... so we will see what Yuka does with her career. Still, my #1 Bet is Bianca! (if it's not obvious yet from all my posts) :)

Yeah, I'm not sure what the better route is. I think there was some discussion earlier that the competition is better on the JLPGA (or KLPGA) and logistically it is a bit easier. That being said, the Top 10 on Symetra tour gets a better priority/ranking than the Q-Series qualifiers, so in the short-run I can see the advantage of it. The disadvantage being that the success rate / preparation it (Symetra) provides does not seem to be all that great. My gut instinct is that if you are hyper driven/focused you can still improve on your own wherever (i.e. even in an inferior environment), and but there is some benefit from favorable surroundings.

 

My guess is that each of them, if they play, would play in the U.S. Both from where they've grown up and neither should have a problem funding a year of cash burn if that's what they want to do.

[Newinup]

> @18majors said:

> @Newinup

>

> It's obvious Bianca #1, Hinako #2; and nothing else.

 

haha you're right then yuka, dottie and clarris..... though if none of them play, i go watch minjee, jyk, sei young kim, so yeon, phatlum and brooke as well - case in point, this year, most of the time they're not in the golf channel LOL... don't follow the rest as intently of course- dunno how you guys manage to get all the details for quite a few players...

[Mellow]

So thrilled for Hee Young! It was great to get to see her interview. Hope she has a great finish for the last round.

 

Also cheering for Mina.

 

Above the current line, I'm cheering for Youngin Chun. I thought she was a neat player from what we saw earlier this year. You can do it.

 

I really appreciate this thread. Let me know a lot more about the series and what is going on. Harder to find about this.

[AWinfortheAges]

>> @agolf1 said:

> > @Newinup said:

> > > @agolf1 said:

> > > > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > > > > List.

> > > > > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > > > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

> > > >

> > > > Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

> > > I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

> > >

> > > Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

> >

> > Alison is part Korean... but not beyond JLPGA to be accepting of her, there's quite a few koreans on the JLPGA now doing well (Lee Min Young etc) and of course a few taiwanese and others like Teresa Lu, Carrie Davidson etc... This would be a tough move for Alison, in part bec I think she's been raised in the States, first and foremost, and I don't think she has any roots in Japan, though not impossible. This now becomes what Alison values more: $/uprooting for Japan or easier path bk to LPGA/staying in the States. I'm aware of this as Yuka Saso, representing the Philippines, has a Symetra Card for 2020 but may have a full JLPGA Tour Card too... so we will see what Yuka does with her career. Still, my #1 Bet is Bianca! (if it's not obvious yet from all my posts) :)

> Yeah, I'm not sure what the better route is. I think there was some discussion earlier that the competition is better on the JLPGA (or KLPGA) and logistically it is a bit easier. That being said, the Top 10 on Symetra tour gets a better priority/ranking than the Q-Series qualifiers, so in the short-run I can see the advantage of it. The disadvantage being that the success rate / preparation it (Symetra) provides does not seem to be all that great. My gut instinct is that if you are hyper driven/focused you can still improve on your own wherever (i.e. even in an inferior environment), and but there is some benefit from favorable surroundings.

>

> My guess is that each of them, if they play, would play in the U.S. Both from where they've grown up and neither should have a problem funding a year of cash burn if that's what they want to do.

 

Yes, Alison is part Korean, but I thought I heard her say on a podcast that she's part Japanese also(it's either Alison or Danielle Kang). Unless the priority list categories are changing, Alison has decent status for 2020. Category 11 which is the same as Morgan Pressel and MJ Hur had this season. Cheyenne would have the same category 15 status as she had this season.

[Titleist_PT23]

> @AWinfortheAges said:

> >> @agolf1 said:

> > > @Newinup said:

> > > > @agolf1 said:

> > > > > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > > > > > List.

> > > > > > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > > > > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

> > > > >

> > > > > Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

> > > > I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

> > > >

> > > > Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

> > >

> > > Alison is part Korean... but not beyond JLPGA to be accepting of her, there's quite a few koreans on the JLPGA now doing well (Lee Min Young etc) and of course a few taiwanese and others like Teresa Lu, Carrie Davidson etc... This would be a tough move for Alison, in part bec I think she's been raised in the States, first and foremost, and I don't think she has any roots in Japan, though not impossible. This now becomes what Alison values more: $/uprooting for Japan or easier path bk to LPGA/staying in the States. I'm aware of this as Yuka Saso, representing the Philippines, has a Symetra Card for 2020 but may have a full JLPGA Tour Card too... so we will see what Yuka does with her career. Still, my #1 Bet is Bianca! (if it's not obvious yet from all my posts) :)

> > Yeah, I'm not sure what the better route is. I think there was some discussion earlier that the competition is better on the JLPGA (or KLPGA) and logistically it is a bit easier. That being said, the Top 10 on Symetra tour gets a better priority/ranking than the Q-Series qualifiers, so in the short-run I can see the advantage of it. The disadvantage being that the success rate / preparation it (Symetra) provides does not seem to be all that great. My gut instinct is that if you are hyper driven/focused you can still improve on your own wherever (i.e. even in an inferior environment), and but there is some benefit from favorable surroundings.

> >

> > My guess is that each of them, if they play, would play in the U.S. Both from where they've grown up and neither should have a problem funding a year of cash burn if that's what they want to do.

>

> Yes, Alison is part Korean, but I thought I heard her say on a podcast that she's part Japanese also(it's either Alison or Danielle Kang). Unless the priority list categories are changing, Alison has decent status for 2020. Category 11 which is the same as Morgan Pressel and MJ Hur had this season. Cheyenne would have the same category 15 status as she had this season.

Alison should be in category 15 in 2020 as well (#101-125 on prior year money list)? Category 11 is #81-100 on money list, which she just missed (#105 or ~$13k behind #100 spot). I'm not even sure category 15 can play much, as they are behind all of the Q-Series qualifiers.

 

She needs a great final round or the decision to play in Korea instead of TX may haunt her. No guarantees she would have made enough in TX, but it seemed like an odd decision.

 

Edit: Before Q-Series started, I would have expected her to earn a card again. But this is why you don't chance it. She had one very bad round and it may cost her / alter her 2020 plans and opportunities.

[Titleist_PT23]

> @Mellow said:

> So thrilled for Hee Young! It was great to get to see her interview. Hope she has a great finish for the last round.

Also glad HYP should get to play another season. I wasn't sure if she was going to call it a career. She actually didn't play a lot last year despite having Top 80 status. I don't want to suggest she was going to win/break any records but it seems like her game wasn't that bad and had she played a few more tournaments she may have been able to retain better status.

 

I am not expert on all of these players, but HYP and Muni's scores are a bit surprising. I thought they were more likely than not to get through (although see Alison Lee's current situation) but assumed it would be middle of the pack or so. Noh's score seems a bit less shocking, at least to me.

[NikeGolfer76]

Do they even publish the “Most Beautiful Women in Golf” feature any more? Probably not In today’s PC culture obsession. Only asking because unless VOA keeps her commercial in circulation, not expecting to be seeing much of Cheyenne Woods next season. Many thought—that along with M. Wie—Cheyenne would’ve provided a welcomed injection of excitement to women’s golf. Even remember when GC preempted its regular coverage to broadcast her 1st pro tournament win (on the LET, I think) a few years ago.

 

Mostly stunned by the apparent regression of the LET’s Emily Petersen. Vaguely remember her on their Solheim Cup team 4 years ago. Below the cut line for Symetra tour status. Seemed to have a lot of potential. Still young—plenty of time for a resurgence.

[AWinfortheAges]

> @agolf1 said:

> > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > >> @agolf1 said:

> > > > @Newinup said:

> > > > > @agolf1 said:

> > > > > > @AWinfortheAges said:

> > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > > > @18majors said:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > @golfskill98 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > I’m shocked with how poor some of the veteran LPGA ladies are doing. What happens to those players that finish outside the 45?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From Q-Series:

> > > > > > > > > > At a minimum, competitors who finish in positions #1-45, including those tied for 45th place, at the end of

> > > > > > > > > > Q-Series will receive LPGA Membership in Category 14 on the LPGA Priority List. Competitors who finish

> > > > > > > > > > outside of the top 20, will also receive Symetra Tour Membership in Category C on the Symetra Tour Priority

> > > > > > > > > > List.

> > > > > > > > > > *Minimum of Top 45 and ties receive LPGA membership (final total number TBD) and all other players who

> > > > > > > > > > complete 108 holes will receive Symetra Tour status. 2020 category status and number of membership cards will be

> > > > > > > > > > determined by LPGA prior to the commencement of the LPGA Q-Series competition***

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From Stage II:

> > > > > > > > > > A TBD number of players will advance to Q-Series.

> > > > > > > > > > All other players who complete 72 holes will receive Symetra Tour status (based on finish) for the 2020 season*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So players like Alison Lee and C Woods will get Symetra status?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's Symetra Tour for Cheyenne for sure.

> > > > > > > > Alison still has a fighting chance; but she needs a final round tomorrow of -7 or better.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for clarifying for me! It seems like players like Cheyenne and Alison would have one **** of an advantage in the Symetra tour. Seems unfair to all the young rookies. Hope they can pull through tomorrow.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not that it would be easy, but I wonder if Alison and Cheyenne would consider playing in Japan for a season. For those in the know, would they be eligible for the qualifying tournament?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Alison is part Japanese I believe. Maybe the experience abroad would help rejuvenate her young career. Cheyenne played LET and I'm sure they'd welcome her back, but at this point is that a better option than symetra? I'd have to imagine she'll be well received by the Japanese golf fans, Alison as well.

> > > > > I think JLPGA has its own qualifying tournament, which may have already passed, so they might not be eligible. If they played, I believe they would need to be Rolex Ranking Top 75 to get an invite to Q-School. Not impossible (I think it was said that a handful of KLPGA or JLPGA players are ranked this high), but I think they would need a lot of very high finishes (probably a win/wins) given that there are fewer ranking points available. Just taking their current game (over the last year or so), I would guess that Symetra has a higher chance of making it back to the LPGA in 2021 (not including any other advantages of playing elsewhere).

> > > > >

> > > > > Edit: I assume they could enter Stage 1 of the LPGA Qualifying no matter what they do (play on the moon, vacation for a year, etc) but I don't know for sure.

> > > >

> > > > Alison is part Korean... but not beyond JLPGA to be accepting of her, there's quite a few koreans on the JLPGA now doing well (Lee Min Young etc) and of course a few taiwanese and others like Teresa Lu, Carrie Davidson etc... This would be a tough move for Alison, in part bec I think she's been raised in the States, first and foremost, and I don't think she has any roots in Japan, though not impossible. This now becomes what Alison values more: $/uprooting for Japan or easier path bk to LPGA/staying in the States. I'm aware of this as Yuka Saso, representing the Philippines, has a Symetra Card for 2020 but may have a full JLPGA Tour Card too... so we will see what Yuka does with her career. Still, my #1 Bet is Bianca! (if it's not obvious yet from all my posts) :)

> > > Yeah, I'm not sure what the better route is. I think there was some discussion earlier that the competition is better on the JLPGA (or KLPGA) and logistically it is a bit easier. That being said, the Top 10 on Symetra tour gets a better priority/ranking than the Q-Series qualifiers, so in the short-run I can see the advantage of it. The disadvantage being that the success rate / preparation it (Symetra) provides does not seem to be all that great. My gut instinct is that if you are hyper driven/focused you can still improve on your own wherever (i.e. even in an inferior environment), and but there is some benefit from favorable surroundings.

> > >

> > > My guess is that each of them, if they play, would play in the U.S. Both from where they've grown up and neither should have a problem funding a year of cash burn if that's what they want to do.

> >

> > Yes, Alison is part Korean, but I thought I heard her say on a podcast that she's part Japanese also(it's either Alison or Danielle Kang). Unless the priority list categories are changing, Alison has decent status for 2020. Category 11 which is the same as Morgan Pressel and MJ Hur had this season. Cheyenne would have the same category 15 status as she had this season.

> Alison should be in category 15 in 2020 as well (#101-125 on prior year money list)? Category 11 is #81-100 on money list, which she just missed (#105 or ~$13k behind #100 spot). I'm not even sure category 15 can play much, as they are behind all of the Q-Series qualifiers.

>

 

You're right. I made a mistake and read the priority number as equal to the money ranking.

[ChronicSlicer]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @ChronicSlicer said:

> > > @Krt22 said:

> > > 7 straight under par rounds for Muni He, impressive. Sincerely hope she carries that momentum into the next LPGA event

> >

> > I won't lie, I'm surprised for sure, impressed..not so much. I'll be impressed and surprised if she can contend on the LPGA.

>

> Tough crowd here.

 

Sorry, just my opinion.

[OffTheDole]

> @agolf1 said:

> I am not expert on all of these players, but HYP and Muni's scores are a bit surprising. I thought they were more likely than not to get through (although see Alison Lee's current situation) but assumed it would be middle of the pack or so. Noh's score seems a bit less shocking, at least to me.

 

Don't let the good looks and media savvy fool you, Muni He is a real golfer capable of winning. She is the total package and a marketer's dream.

 

 

[18majors]

Not a balmy day; but warmer than yesterday:

 

[https://twitter.com/Halvy_Wx/status/1190606865950027784](https://twitter.com/Halvy_Wx/status/1190606865950027784 "https://twitter.com/Halvy_Wx/status/1190606865950027784")

[Argonne69]

The Rocket making it interesting. How within a shot of the lead.

 

Youngin with a very nice -4 round going, and within the Top 45.

 

Lots of over par rounds. Nerves or weather?

 

 

[Newinup]

is there any order of preference for tournaments if you're say, 21st vs 45th? or are they all lumped together?

 

Bianca needs to step up, double bogeys have killed her the last 1.5 rounds

[18majors]

> @Newinup said:

> is there any order of preference for tournaments if you're say, 21st vs 45th? or are they all lumped together?

>

> Bianca needs to step up, double bogeys have killed her the last 1.5 rounds

 

The tournament entry is entirely based on priority; there're tournaments #20 get in but no luck for #21.

The magic number is #20 with no ties; hope she shoots -2 or better in back 9.

 

[Newinup]

> @18majors said:

> > @Newinup said:

> > is there any order of preference for tournaments if you're say, 21st vs 45th? or are they all lumped together?

> >

> > Bianca needs to step up, double bogeys have killed her the last 1.5 rounds

>

> The tournament entry is entirely based on priority; there're tournaments #20 get in but no luck for #21.

> The magic number is #20 with no ties; hope she shoots -2 or better in back 9.

>

 

yes, she needs to at least birdie the par 5's on the back 9 AND birdie another hole or two just to be on the safe side... definitely need to be -3 or better cumulative for a chance to top 20... (so she needs to shoot top 15 since i think there's gonna be a logjam from say, 18-25 eg T18 wont cut it since they'll be over 20 players at T18 or better)

 

I got confused initially by the Christina Kim article since it stated: "Kim posted a 2-under 70 on Friday at Pinehurst No. 9, a day when few players broke par after a dramatic dip in temperature. She’s currently in a share of 28th. A top-45 finish would improve Kim’s status to Category 14.** The higher the finish on Saturday, the higher she falls within that category** --- thought that 21st to 45th meant something per placement...

 

Meanwhile I guess Dottie Ardina and Guce are back to symetra only.... but in reality, they are no match to B's potential so I guess results don't lie

 

I guess if you're just within the "cut off" areas - you go for broke the last 2-3 holes since you don't lose much eg if you're 21st at EVEN and 45th is say, +6, you have 4-6 strokes cushion and just go for broke? (i mean you don't shoot a 10 on a par 4 of course, but you can afford a double bogey or two in your quest to gun it)

[Newinup]

there's currently 4 at T-18, does that mean only 2 out of the 4 get to play? (ugh, this is painful to wait for LOL)... B one back for T-18! cmon!!!!... cautiously optimistic she can go -2 in the last 5 holes :)

[18majors]

> @Newinup said:

> there's currently 4 at T-18, does that mean only 2 out of the 4 get to play? (ugh, this is painful to wait for LOL)... B one back for T-18! cmon!!!!... cautiously optimistic she can go -2 in the last 5 holes :)

 

Every tournament is different; but the higher the priority the better.

[Argonne69]

Hee Young gave a few shots back. Looks like it's Muni's to lose at this point with a four shot lead and eight holes to play.

[Newinup]

> @18majors said:

> > @Newinup said:

> > there's currently 4 at T-18, does that mean only 2 out of the 4 get to play? (ugh, this is painful to wait for LOL)... B one back for T-18! cmon!!!!... cautiously optimistic she can go -2 in the last 5 holes :)

>

> Every tournament is different; but the higher the priority the better.

 

game over... double bogeys in rounds 7 and 8 did her in...bad round for today but she'll be top-45... not a bad result considering she earned what she set out to do... round 6 essentially gave her the card... now comes the hard part, maintaining the card in 2020... will watch with eager anticipation (whether in person or on tv)