The New Ventus Black

[Breezy-3-]

After several rounds of testing I can say for sure that the Ventus Black 6x is firmly in the bag. I love the linear feel of the shaft and paired with my G410 LST it is, good for good, the best performing combo I’ve had in the bag. Good to great shots are a controlled straight ball that just falls to the right which is the ball flight I’m looking for. I’m always wary to talk about distance on the forum but I’ll add that this combo is long.

Im also ready to move on from the Black in my 3HL. I have a Blue arriving tomorrow that I am really looking forward to testing. I’ve always had “low/low” shafts in my fairway woods but this shaft just hasn’t given me the launch I’m accustomed to in my fairway wood. I previously had a Kuro Kage Dual Core 80 TX that was just about perfect launch and spin wise. Unfortunately it was damaged and is proving impossible to replace. I’m excited to see how the Blue performs. If anyone is looking to try the Black in a 3 wood let me know.

[Hedgehog]

How on earth is the Ventus Black 6X a perfect fit for so many golfers? :D

Dustin Johnsson games it, it's TXG:s Matt's go to shaft on club testing... Both are driving monsters that carry it 320-330 when they feel like it.

And now it seems like a lot of ~110ish WRXers find it a perfect fit also? That's what I call versatility in a driver shaft. Great job Fujikura!

[alecfeltman]

Trust me when I say I wanted to use one of the 5 shafts I previously had - but not only was I wrong about how they fit into my game, I was WAY wrong.

The numbers were just too good.

[ignitewvu]

It's the best thing going right now, it really does help you hit center of the face & it's resistance to twisting is just amazing.

[JakeW13]

I could be wrong but I'm fairly certain Matt's go to shaft is an Accra TZ5 shaft, it's what he plays in his Ping driver. Their latest 2020 driver comparison vid he hit a Tour AD in most of the new drivers but I believe he left the Accra on his Ping as he considers that the combo to beat for him.

[rwhitlock]

My swing speed is right in the 108 to 111 mph zone. From what I know, that puts me on the border between a Stiff and X-Stiff flex. Any advice on if either one will work better for me? I'm planning on a driver fitting at Club Champion in 2 weeks and want to see what the real Ventus has over the stock TM Ventus in the SIM drivers.

Thanks!

[PowerPlayer]

I don’t think he ever gamed the TZ5. Ian did. He has most recently gamed a black Ventus but his performance with the VA Nemesys really caught my attention.

[JakeW13]

I just went back and looked at some videos and you are correct. All this time I mistook it for the Accra but you're right, it's the Ventus Black. Makes me even more interested in trying it!

[endy]

Was it too low/low in your 3 wood?

[Breezy-3-]

I dropped 10 grams of shaft weight moving to the Ventus Black in both driver and 3 wood. For the driver it’s been a godsend, for the three wood I’ve lost feel for the club head and have had inconsistent contact. On good strikes, it launches and spins great. It’s more of a contact issue for me.

[halfsumo]

He was also playing Tensei Pro White in his PING for a short bit which looks very similar to the Accra and Ventus graphically.

[endy]

Gotcha! Sounds like You might like the Ventus 9X or 10X

[jjmurry]

I'm about the same as you (110-112 mph) and have been playing around with a real deal Ventus Black 6X untipped at 44.5" in my G410 driver and it's been quite good. Nice boring flight and smooth to fire as hard as you can. I have an aggressive transition so it's been really quite good for me. It takes a bit to get used to but give it a look if you have the funds.

[Morry]

I would say the 4 candidates are Red R and S and Blue R and S

unless you hit down on it huge, the black won't suit that swing speed in my mind - sure doesn't suit mine

I settled on the Red 60-r - never played a regular shaft in my life as an adult basically - swing exact same speed as you

tried them all - the Real deal shafts with velocore - crazy tight - all of them

hope that helps

[t4t3r]

If I hated the Atmos blue should I avoid the Ventus blue? Can get either the blue or black for a good deal so trying to decide which one will suit me better. Huge whiteboard and low/low profile fan, but the tensei pro blue has been pretty good for me too. Only experience with Atmos black was with a 6x that had been tipped too much so it launched and spun a little low but was super accurate. If untipped black gives me a little of that launch/spin back that sounds like the way to go.

[HappyGilmore22]

I'm coming from a Fujikura Evo Speeder Tour Spec (like evo I I think that is blue). I have a ton of credits for trade in with TM so looking to try out the Ventus Black in the SIM when I order this. Wonder how these shafts compare? Think mine is mid launch so wondering if maybe I should go with the Ventus Blue instead? I'm generally a higher launch and spin player so loft my driver down to like 8 deg with my speeder. Also trying to decide on whether or not to go 6x or 7x. The 6 is only 65 g but the 7 is 78 g. My speeder is fairly heavy but I still swing it 118 mph on average with a smooth/normal swing. Anyone find the 6x is too light? Wish the 7x was in the low 70g range since that would be ideal and the 6x seems like it might be too light. Think the Blue might go well in my 3 wood since I'm not trying to hit bombs with my 3 wood which I feel like the black might do.

[JDFish]

I am in the similar range. But I typically have a high ball flight. Based upon my experience with the Atmos black TS 6s ,I was playing before, I purchased in the Ventus black 6s. I have only been able to play two rounds, but found it to be very similar distance-wise, but have a much tighter dispersion and a more boring ball flight. I also was able to take a few swings with it on a Trackman and the spin rate low was 1920 and high was 2200 - which I have never had before. I can't wait to get it out on the course in Florida at the end of next month.

[halfsumo]

I am no expert but looking at the EI profiles of the Ventus Blue and Black vs Mitsubishi D+ and Tensei Pro White on the company websites, it looks like the Ventus black is pretty close to the Whiteboard profile but with a stiffer butt. I actually don't know what the Ventus Blue compares to, maybe the Tour AD DI or a Blueboard profile but with a softer butt section? Ventus Blue seems to be kind of unique. I am also a whiteboard profile guy, been fit into Tensei Pro White a couple times, played Accra TZ5 and now the Tour AD XC. I was fit for Atmos Black TS once and actually owned it last year as it came stock with the Mizuno ST190 driver and it felt really good to be honest. I swapped it for the Ventus Blue 6s and it did everything it was supposed to do (mid launch, more consistent center strikes) but I didn't feel it as well as the Atmos Black. The performance of the Ventus Blue was there for me, but for timing and feel I liked the Atmos Black TS better and it wasn't that much difference in performance for my swing. I will probably end up trying the Ventus Black in 6S. If I don't like it I know I can sell it pretty easily.

[TreyMac]

Yeah my ball flight is usually high with a launch angle of 15-19 degrees and my spin rates can get up to 3000-ish. I think a black is more in line to bring down those numbers as opposed to Red or Blue.

Im guessing you went black 6s as well in the Ventus (if I'm reading right)?

[JDFish]

That's correct.

[t4t3r]

Appreciate the info, sounds like black is at least worth a try.

[Fujikura Golf]

No, give Ventus a try, they're almost opposite EI profiles with Ventus being softer in handle (easier to load) and much stiffer in tip than ATMOS TS

[fpyle3]

I finally had a chance to hit this shaft during a club champion fitting today, the hype is warranted. This and the pro orange were head and shoulders above everything else I tried, and I went in with an open mind (hit a bunch of shafts). I did not have a great driver swing today unfortunately, was hitting down 2-3 degrees and while starting most on a good line was leaving the face open a bit. With the gamer in my sig, was swinging around 108 but was spinning around 3,000, didn’t get anything longer than maybe low 280s with roll. Was hitting Ventus black and pro orange in 6s, both were longer and dropped spin a bit. Pro orange was a little better numbers wise, but need to see both outdoors this spring. I should have probably tried 6x just to see, as I expected swing speed would be closer to 110 or so. In the 3 wood, Ventus blue won by an easy margin, going to get that in a Sim ti rocket 3 wood immediately. Great job with this line, Fujikura!

[Dsevans8]

Ok guys hoping somebody here can offer me some insight... went to order my MAVRIK with VENTUS BLACK on Callaways website and it was an upcharge of $350... at Carl's Golfland upcharge of only $250? Somebody with some industry knowledge know why there is such a difference in prices? I would have thought that Callaway would have been less, and at the least the same. Isn't Carl's ordering the club through Callaway?

[HappyGilmore22]

Yeah I noticed that when looking at the Mavrik custom builds and my total was $956 for a subzero with Ventus black. Yeah never paying that much for a driver. TM upcharge only $250 so likely going with that but it still runs just over $800 total. Glad I have a ton of trade in with 150% bonus so I can get the SIM driver and 3 wood both with Ventus for about $100.

[mmack067]

Where do you feel most of the weight in the Ventus line? The Ping heads are already heavier than most so shafts with a really low balance point start to feel too sluggish for me.

[BigHook25]

I'm fairly certain Cobra components will have it soon if not already and think it was $250. You might have to order the shaft with a Cobra adapter but could just remove that and have a Callaway adapter put on.

 

[bk12]

How did you find the feel of the PO and the Ventus Black to compare?

[Geddy Lee]

To follow up on halfsumo's comment above, I too really like the Atmos Black TS in 6S, But, I have been playing the Ventus Blue in 6S and I have lost a lot of distance. Would it make sense to try the Ventus Black in 6S since the Atmos Black works well for me? I am hoping to get the distance I am seeing with the Atmos Black with the consistency everyone is talking about with Ventus. SS is from 98 to 102. Thanks.

[fpyle3]

Definitely different, I’ve never really gotten along with counterbalanced shafts, and quickly swapped out a HZRDUS yellow I tried in the M3. Ventus Black was smooth and was pretty easy to feel it kick, fairly similar to a pro white but maybe a bit firmer in the butt. Pro orange was smoother than I thought it would be but not quite as smooth as Ventus, although in a final build I would probably add a little more weight to the head (TM Sim). Felt the club head and kick a little better in the Ventus, launch was similar between the two and pro orange was spinning maybe 200-300 rpms or so less. Dispersion was a little better for me in pro orange, but didn’t hit enough shots to pick one over the other quite yet. Hope this helps.