Nippon Modus Tour 105

[skinner05]

Would a stiff modus3 tour 105 be too flimsy/hard to control for someone with a swing speed of 92mph with a 7 iron?

I'm looking at taking the plunge on some used i210 irons off eBay but haven't been able to find anywhere to demo this shaft in those irons. What does it play similar to? I've got project x 6.0 in my RSI2 irons

[Puttersaurus Rex]

Modus 105 will be a drastic difference coming from project x 6.0. It depends on your transition and feel. The modus may be perfect, or a terrible fit. It took me a few months transitioning from 85 gram shafts to modus 105, and I am not looking back. If you have the time, money, and patience to tinker...

[GolfNuts4]

Agree with comment above, that being said, I am playing the Modus 105 in a regular and my swing speed is around 87 with a 7 iron.

[JDMRN81]

If your 7i is that fast I’m assuming your driver speed is over 110? That technically should put you in an X-flex range. I play i210’s with modus 105’s in stiff......I’m not sure of my 7i club speed (mid to high 80’s maybe) but my driver is between 105-110ish (recent swing changes added about 5 MPH). I’m contemplating reshafting because they seem to play flimsy for me now and I’m getting a very high flight and drawing the ball more then I’d like. I have a somewhat aggressive transition. I purchased these used on a whim and did not get fit, but I have the ability to change shafts so wasn’t a big deal to me.

[skinner05]

Driver speed is around 113-115mph

I'm pretty sure I'll be able to swap them for something else with my club pro if I need to. I'll game them for a few weeks and see how they feel.

 

The project x seem very harsh though and I've had a lot of problems with stiff/sore hands recently after playing so I'm hoping the modus might be less harsh and alleviate that problem

[dpb5031]

You'll appreciate the smooth feel of the 105s. I find them very easy on my hands & elbows.

In terms of flex, it really depends on your swing. If you're swing is shorter, with a quick & harsh transition, they may feel too soft for you.

 

If you're a smoother swinger of the club and build your speed more gradually you'll probably love them. The other factor will be height. If you hit it super high with lots of spin you may prefer stiffer. It's really an individual thing. I love the way these load and have no problems with partial swings and knock-downs though I generally hit them high on full swings.

[puttingmatt]

I think they are a great shaft in the lighter weight catagory. I use the 105 stiff

In my X Forged with a 7i swing speed of 85. Easier on the elbows and wrists,

And still prefer steel over graphite.

[Tree Levino]

I’d be looking at 105x personally. I play PX 6.0 now. Very different shafts.

[xGameOver]

Curious about 105x as well. Tried them at golf galaxy and they felt very stable. But I think it’s too light for me. My 7iron speed is 94-97mph. Modus 120x felt good for me. Would like to try 125x but I am trying to get away from heavy shafts and find something lighter to help slow down my swing bc a heavier shaft makes me hit harder

[skinner05]

> @dpb5031 said:

> You'll appreciate the smooth feel of the 105s. I find them very easy on my hands & elbows.

> In terms of flex, it really depends on your swing. If you're swing is shorter, with a quick & harsh transition, they may feel too soft for you.

>

> If you're a smoother swinger of the club and build your speed more gradually you'll probably love them. The other factor will be height. If you hit it super high with lots of spin you may prefer stiffer. It's really an individual thing. I love the way these load and have no problems with partial swings and knock-downs though I generally hit them high on full swings.

 

I've quite a quick transition so might not be ideal but will see how they play

 

[ChipNRun]

> @"Puttersaurus Rex" said:

> Modus 105 will be a drastic difference coming from project x 6.0. It depends on your transition and feel. ...

How quick you are in transition plays a significant factor in what flex works best for you.

 

 

[SoloShot84]

> @ChipNRun said:

> > @"Puttersaurus Rex" said:

> > Modus 105 will be a drastic difference coming from project x 6.0. It depends on your transition and feel. ...

> How quick you are in transition plays a significant factor in what flex works best for you.

>

>

 

totally agree. I have very smooth/slow transition and modus is so much better fit than project x. even 5.5 felt so much stiffer than my modus 105 stiff.

modus 105 stiff has similar characteristic as Dynamic gold 105

[Weezer2]

My swing speed is 87-88 mph with 7 iron with a smooth swing. I used the Mizuno swing DNA system and the Modus 105 was a perfect fit for my swing after testing.

[aenemated]

> @dpb5031 said:

> If you're a smoother swinger of the club and build your speed more gradually you'll probably love them.

 

This. I've got a pretty smooth tempo - very much modeled it after Freddie back in the day - and I absolutely love these shafts.

[rainkingjr]

OP, my swingspeed is about the same as yours. I've played 105's in stiff, x stiff and stiff hardstepped once. I preferred stiff flex straight in out of the three. I launch the ball pretty low with lower spin. Strong grip and I de-loft quite a bit at impact. I handled the X stiff fine as well, just had a much flatter ball flight.

[BCULAW]

IMO, it depends on your swing. I swing the 6 iron 89-92 according to the Mizuno shaft optimizer and played KBS Tour 130x for the better part of 8-9 years. I recently picked up a set of iBlades with Modus 105s with the intention of reshafting.

I played them a couple of rounds "as is" and decided to keep them because they feel great and perform well. I'm hitting a ton of greens, so no reason to change.

[DMAIC]

I have the Modus 105 in stiff with a 7 iron SS of around 85 and Driver around 100 and handle them fine. I would think they might be a bit soft for you but looks like @rainkingjr prefers the stiff with a highest swing speed more like yours. Probably been suggested but if you can try both on the monitor I would.

[kro88]

> @SuperBombin said:

> Curious about 105x as well. Tried them at golf galaxy and they felt very stable. But I think it’s too light for me. My 7iron speed is 94-97mph. Modus 120x felt good for me. Would like to try 125x but I am trying to get away from heavy shafts and find something lighter to help slow down my swing bc a heavier shaft makes me hit harder

 

the 105x is 112 grams. shouldnt be too light, i have them in my MP25s and just ordered blueprints with them

[BlkNGld]

As others say, it's not all swing speed, but if you like your PX 6.0s, I don't think you'll like Modus stiff.

I play the Modus happily, but whenever I've tried PX in irons I wind up running away, even at 5.5.

IMO, PX LZ 5.5 plays closest to Modus 105 stiff, and even then the differences are apparent.

 

 

[wfrogge1]

My 7 iron swing speed is comparable to yours and I am in the 105 X flex but could play the S just as easily.

[iwalter8]

Smooth 85-87 MPH 7i swing speed and was testing between 105S and 105X. Mizuno DNA recommended X and that's what I ended up with in JPX Tours. Similar high trajectory and distance but dispersion was tighter with the 105X.

[prospect026]

I switched to the 105 S this season and couldn’t be happier. I came from KBS C tapers which I felt were harsh and required a lot of effort. I also think Project X shafts seem a little harsh as well. Definitely recommend at least trying the Modus 105s.

[OspreyCI]

105’s in my P790’s are awesome. About 85 SS with a 7 iron.

[BrickDaFunk]

my 7 iron swing speed is 88-92, I was fit into 105x via Mizuno Optimizer with a local fitter....I found a set of iBlades with 105s hard stepped and couldn't be happier. it is rare that I hit an approach shot and wonder if I would have had a better result had I gone with x-flex....it does happen, but not very often.

[mwink822]

I can't speak from much experience with the 105 in stiff, but I did play it in X for about two years. My swing speed with a 7 iron is around 88. I found the 105X to feel superb, but I have a little bit of an aggressive transition and found that I could lose the ball left if I really went after a shot. This year I was fit into 718 AP2 with either PX 6.5 soft stepped or straight in PX 6.0. I opted for the 6.0 and find them to be a much better fit for my swing than the 105x. I do, however, miss the silky smooth feel of the 105x. As others have said, the PX and Modus 105 are drastically different shafts.

[Golf64]

Modus 105 is a great shaft, but with that SS, it might be too light/soft a shaft for you OP?! Usually what ever your ball speed with 7 iron is, that is the weight in grams you should use. Might want to look a 'heavier' shafts?! Modus 120 maybe?

[dpb5031]

> @Golf64 said:

> Modus 105 is a great shaft, but with that SS, it might be too light/soft a shaft for you OP?! Usually what ever your ball speed with 7 iron is, that is the weight in grams you should use. Might want to look a 'heavier' shafts?! Modus 120 maybe?

 

I think that's a nice rule of thumb, but there are literally thousands of exceptions. I play the 105s in X flex. They're actually about 115g in x. A lot comes down to feel preference. I hit C-Tapers and Project X a hair straighter in fittings, but still prefer the Nippons on the course

[TheWind]

What made you go with X over S? When I got fitted, I was swinging the S really well and my fitter recommended the X because while I have a more smooth transitioning swing, when I start getting confident and swinging well on the course, I tend to have a couple where I go after it due to excitement or something. My club head speed with a 6 iron was 90 avg on a regular swing and 94 when going after it. Do you feel like you lose any of the awesome release feel with the X, or are you happy you went with them?

EDIT: I will say that my miss with the 105 S was more draw than I'd like generally, which was one of the reasons he said to go with X. I just like to get a few opinions from people who have played them for more than just a fitting to see what they think of them! Most likely going to stick with the 105X, just curious!