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We have threads on both but want to group it all together to see what people have found when testing the old vs. the new and if they see a justification in getting the new TS line of hybrids?

 

I have tested the TS2 and TS3 hybrids against my 818H2 and am still undecided.

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> @BlkNGld said:

> Are you undecided that the new ones are any better, or that they are better but not enough to justify the extra cost?

 

I have the TS3, TS2 and 818H2 hybrids. Just wanting to see other folks on course reviews if they have them to see their experiences as well. I have found the TS3 and TS2 to sound very "tingy" on the course whereas the 818H2 is more solid/muted which I prefer.

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> @AG12 said:

> > @BlkNGld said:

> > Are you undecided that the new ones are any better, or that they are better but not enough to justify the extra cost?

>

> I have the TS3, TS2 and 818H2 hybrids. Just wanting to see other folks on course reviews if they have them to see their experiences as well. I have found the TS3 and TS2 to sound very "tingy" on the course whereas the 818H2 is more solid/muted which I prefer.

YMMV of course, but for me if there is additional performance, I'd probably adjust to the sound over time. If it's no better I'd be glad that I hung onto the 818s.

 

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> @BlkNGld said:

> > @AG12 said:

> > > @BlkNGld said:

> > > Are you undecided that the new ones are any better, or that they are better but not enough to justify the extra cost?

> >

> > I have the TS3, TS2 and 818H2 hybrids. Just wanting to see other folks on course reviews if they have them to see their experiences as well. I have found the TS3 and TS2 to sound very "tingy" on the course whereas the 818H2 is more solid/muted which I prefer.

> YMMV of course, but for me if there is additional performance, I'd probably adjust to the sound over time. If it's no better I'd be glad that I hung onto the 818s.

>

 

Based on what I have done so far it looks like the 818H2 is winning the 19* hybrid spot. Just like the sound and feel much more than the TS offerings and the head size is a little smaller at address on the 818H2 than the TS3

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> @pricenicky said:

> I agree no difference between my 816 21 degree and the TS2 in performance.816 feels more solid - less tinny./ thin feeling.

 

When I was testing the TS line versus the 818H2 I did not care for that tinny sound. Much prefer the muted sound/feel of the 818 line

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818h1 was and still is a great hybrid with no hook options. But if you like a even more forgiving and very long hybrid like a small 5 wood try the TS2 hybrid in 19*.

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> @apg7 said:

> I just like the shape of the 818H2 more than the TS equivalent. Both seemed to go about the same and I didn't want to spend $200+ for "same but worse".

 

My findings too, I’m sticking with my 818H2.

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Pretty good head to head video here

 

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That head to head convinced me that although there are benefits to the new model it’s not worth the extra $200 it takes to pick one up. I bought a great condition 818 h1 w/ ad hy for $120.00.

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I did a comparison with the 818H1 and TS2 both in 21* today. Distance was identical. The 818H1 had tighter dispersion and the TS2 went left more often. 818H1 Was muted as opposed to the metallic “ting” of the TS2. Both shafts were the Tensei Blue stiff. I left with the 818H1. It performed better for me and also was $100.00 less which helps.

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> @playgolf111 said:

> 818h1 was and still is a great hybrid with no hook options. But if you like a even more forgiving and very long hybrid like a small 5 wood try the TS2 hybrid in 19*.

 

How are you liking the TS2 19* hybrid so far?

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Bump.

 

Particularly interested in how people are finding the TS 19* compared to the 818. Is it a 3-5 yards hotter?

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I have upgraded both driver and fairway wood to TS series but decided to stick with 818h1 for hybrid as it feels more solid. Also didn't find any performance difference with TS hybrid. I would pick the 818h series which can be had for cheap right now without any loss in performance.

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The 818H2 is probably the first hybrid that I've ever considered irreplaceable. Haven't tested the TS, but the looks/set-up just don't appeal to me, so that's off putting enough for me not to even consider it. The 818 is just so incredibly solid feeling and does everything I could expect from a hybrid. In fact, I would go so far to say that the entire 917 line is the best that Titleist has ever produced. Other good and bad offerings, with the 907 line by far being the worst, but just can't go wrong with the 917/918's.

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I have a 818. Not going anywhere unless it breaks or I get too old to hit it the way it's set up. It's a rocket launcher. 

 

It's probably a combination of things that make it so good for me. Hybrids for me are like a 3 wood. I had a difficult time finding one that worked off the tee and fairway. Once found it stays. 

 

Unless your current hybrid is a bad fit you probably won't see a huge difference. 

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I went from the 915H to the TS2 hybrid recently, both in 21*.   TS2 is noticeably hotter/longer (at least 10 yards for me), both with the same shaft from the 915H (GD AD HY 95S) and the shaft I ultimately settled on, the Atmos Blue 85S.  I prefer the sound from the TS2 as well.  The TS lets me reach the longest par 3 at my course, which is 225 yards, and gets me closer to or on our reachable par 5's, where I was always short with the 915H.

 

The most interesting thing for me with the TS2 has been swingweight.  I've always done better with heavier swingweights, and ordered the TS2 with the +6g weight.  When I got it out on the course it felt like I was swinging a sledgehammer.   I dropped the weight to the +4g weight and it was like a completely different club.  It just came alive.  I didn't think 2g should make that big a difference, but it did for me.

 

If you're currently playing the 818H, then the TS2 probably isn't a big enough improvement to make a difference, but it's a material upgrade from the 915H hybrid.  

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Someone mentioned that the new TSI Hybrids are released in Februar. He mentioned Titleist changes the release circle to go with the new Woods and Irons.

 

Normally it would be one more year for the TS Series. 

 

 

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