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I'm confused by all the talk of "offset" on these irons.   If these are "players distance" irons, which seems to be the category for all the hollow irons, where exactly have Cobra "dropped the ball"

> @pxthree said: > Anyone had a chance to compare these with 2019 P790 yet?   I've hit both extensively, each with the KBS Tour 80 shaft in regular flex. The TM looks a tad better at address

If you took out ‘COBRA’ and just put the cobra emblem instead that would look a lot cleaner. But these do look amazing. Very excited to try these. So far the Mizuno HMB Irons look the cleanest and per

Too much offset for my taste but I appreciate the effort. Hopefully their player's cavities and blades carry some of the benefits of these irons though.

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I had the i500 for about a year and I wasn’t feeling them. Generally not a fan of these new types of hollow players distance irons anymore. I think these look alright but the top line is too thick. I prefer the look of the new P790 more.

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The aesthetic/branding with the large KING is horrible.

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I like the mimimal 'clean' look. So are these like the Pings with the weight screw?

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The top line is too thick, way too much off set for a players distance club, and the KING is too big. Should’ve gone with the cobra symbol. They don’t feel as good as the 790’s? That’s not good.

 

Other than that I really like them.

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I'm confused by all the talk of "offset" on these irons.

 

If these are "players distance" irons, which seems to be the category for all the hollow irons, where exactly have Cobra "dropped the ball"?

 

Cobra 2020

4i - 3.8mm

7i - 3.0mm

PW - 1.8mm

 

Cobra Forged Tec Black

4i - 3.8mm

7i - 3.1mm

PW - 2.0mm

 

Callaway Apex CF19

4i - 4.6mm

7i - 3.0mm

PW - 2.5mm

 

Titleist T200

4i - 4.1mm

7i - 3.1mm

PW - 2.0mm

 

Mizuno JPX919 Forged

4i - 4.1mm

7i - 3.4mm

PW - 2.6mm

 

Mizuno MP20 HMB

4i - 3.6mm

7i - 3.2mm

PW - 2.6mm

 

Srixon Z585

4i - 4.0mm

7i - 3.3mm

PW - 2.3mm

 

Ping i500

4i - 3.8mm

7i - 2.3mm

PW - 0.8mm

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> @pegleg said:

> I'm confused by all the talk of "offset" on these irons.

>

> If these are "players distance" irons, which seems to be the category for all the hollow irons, where exactly have Cobra "dropped the ball"?

>

> Cobra 2020

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 1.8mm

>

> Cobra Forged Tec Black

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Callaway Apex CF19

> 4i - 4.6mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 2.5mm

>

> Titleist T200

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Mizuno JPX919 Forged

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.4mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Mizuno MP20 HMB

> 4i - 3.6mm

> 7i - 3.2mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Srixon Z585

> 4i - 4.0mm

> 7i - 3.3mm

> PW - 2.3mm

>

> Ping i500

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 2.3mm

> PW - 0.8mm

 

Silly,, didn't you know? Threads like these are for unsubstantiated perceptions. :)

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> @GC70 said:

> The top line is too thick, way too much off set for a players distance club, and the KING is too big. Should’ve gone with the cobra symbol. They don’t feel as good as the 790’s? That’s not good.

>

> Other than that I really like them.

 

I think Shields said out of the middle they feel better than the P790, but when missing the sweet spot P790 felt better. He was kinda rambling but pretty sure he eventually says the above.

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> @BunkerSnot said:

> Scary part from the front page article "definitive physics standpoint there is still only a tiny single defined sweet spot" but they do look very nice.

 

That’s an inescapable fact. the sweet spot cannot be enlarged.

 

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> @pegleg said:

> I'm confused by all the talk of "offset" on these irons.

>

> If these are "players distance" irons, which seems to be the category for all the hollow irons, where exactly have Cobra "dropped the ball"?

>

> Cobra 2020

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 1.8mm

>

> Cobra Forged Tec Black

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Callaway Apex CF19

> 4i - 4.6mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 2.5mm

>

> Titleist T200

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Mizuno JPX919 Forged

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.4mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Mizuno MP20 HMB

> 4i - 3.6mm

> 7i - 3.2mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Srixon Z585

> 4i - 4.0mm

> 7i - 3.3mm

> PW - 2.3mm

>

> Ping i500

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 2.3mm

> PW - 0.8mm

 

Compare it to i500 and Its easy to see. I 500 got it right.

 

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> @pegleg said:

> I'm confused by all the talk of "offset" on these irons.

>

> If these are "players distance" irons, which seems to be the category for all the hollow irons, where exactly have Cobra "dropped the ball"?

>

> Cobra 2020

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 1.8mm

>

> Cobra Forged Tec Black

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Callaway Apex CF19

> 4i - 4.6mm

> 7i - 3.0mm

> PW - 2.5mm

>

> Titleist T200

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.1mm

> PW - 2.0mm

>

> Mizuno JPX919 Forged

> 4i - 4.1mm

> 7i - 3.4mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Mizuno MP20 HMB

> 4i - 3.6mm

> 7i - 3.2mm

> PW - 2.6mm

>

> Srixon Z585

> 4i - 4.0mm

> 7i - 3.3mm

> PW - 2.3mm

>

> Ping i500

> 4i - 3.8mm

> 7i - 2.3mm

> PW - 0.8mm

 

How about the length of the blade heel to toe?

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I'm looking forward to trying these. They look good to my eye. I don't care about the "KING" being written on the back of the irons. Can't be seen at address & after a short time I won't even notice it anyway.

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I hope these get made in a black finish. Very clean!

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Just hit a demo 7 iron for 30 minutes. I was a little bummed that the only one I could get my hands on was 2 degrees upright, and I generally play 1-2 degrees flat. Needless to say I was hitting the left off target with my normal draw. I am hoping that this explains the spin numbers because I could not get over 5000 with this. I know the loft is jacked, but I was expecting 5500-6500 out of the 7 iron and I was hitting 4000-4500.

 

They look great. For what it is, the topline is great. I didn't immediately notice the offset, but I don't normally play blades either. Very comfortable standing over it. Feels great. A quality hit feels like you are smashing a rubber ball with no cover. Cobra is sneaky good in the feel department with alot of their clubs. I didnt quite agree with the amt white s300 that was in. This isn't the standard shaft for this club, but I was swinging it 85-88mph, where I usually swing something I would game in the 88-90 range. Regardless, this club launches. High flight and long. Again the lofts are very strong, but it does fly. Routinely carrying 175.

 

I'll have to demo these a few times, with a head and shaft that better fit my specs. If I can get these on target with some better spin numbers (which I am sure would sacrifice some distance) these become very game-able.

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