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I know these were 2 popular drivers early in the pre-launch days of 2019. Anyone keep these in the bag for long for the season?

 

I'm looking to pick up a new driver, no reason other than I'm bored. I was looking at the new epic flash, but I've gamed 2 Callaways this year already, OG Epic sz and Rogue sz.

 

The 2 that intrigue me are the Mizuno ST190 and Cobra F9. I demoed both back in April, Cobra with HZRDUS Smoke and ST190 with Kuro Kage and Atmos blue. I remember liking the ST190 more.

Callaway B21 10.5° - Fuji Speeder 569 IV

Mizuno ST190 3W - GD AD DI 6

Mizuno JPX 900 5W - Fuji Speeder 661 II

Mizuno MP20 SEL(4) - DG120 S300

Mizuno JPX 919F(5-PW) - DG120 S300

Titleist Vokey SM5 52°/12° F Grind 

Titleist Vokey SM5 58°/11° K Grind 

Titleist Vokey SM5 62°/8° T Grind 

Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2

 

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never driven the ball straighter, longer . Cobra F9 loyalist. I am still in love with the LTDs but the F9 is impossible to put down. I am back to the back tees now...and i am much older lol

For the first time in many, many years I played a single driver / shaft combination for an entire season. 9* F9 with a Tour AD TP7S.

Cobra SZ 9* : Ventus Blue 6-S

Cobra F9 Tour 4W : Tour AD TP 8-S

Cobra ForgedTec 3-iron : Nippon Modus3 105-S

Srixon Z785 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 120-S

Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon 115-S Wedge

Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

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ST190 still in (haven't had it long though). I don't foresee it going anywhere.

Mizuno ST190 9.5* Diamana X'17 70XX || Taylormade M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX
Titleist 915FD 14.25* Kuro Kage 80XTS || Taylormade SIM Ti 16* Kuro Kage 80XTS 
Titleist 915FD 17.25* Kuro Kage 90XTS || Taylormade GAPR Lo 3 20* Kuro Kage 100XTS Hybrid
Callaway X-Forged UT 20* Kuro Kage XT 100TX Hybrid || Taylormade RSI UDI 20* Kuro Kage 100XTS Hybrid
Callaway X-Forged UT 23* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 DPC 5i-7i 27*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Pro Platinum

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I played an ST190G until about a week and a half ago when my shaft broke mid-swing and my ST190G head flew 30-40 yards and cracked when it landed. My new driver is going to be an M5 as it just feels better. I like the ST190G, but after hitting the M5, I can (and will) say the ST190G feels less solid. However, if I had never hit the M5, I'd probably have continued loving the ST190G.

Driver: TaylorMade SIM 8* (standard setting) with MCA Tensei AV Raw Orange 75TX at 44.5"
3W: TaylorMade M5 15* (standard setting) with Oban Devotion 8 O5 at 42"
Hybrid: PXG Gen 2 0317X 19* (standard setting) with Oban Kiyoshi Purple Hybrid O5 at 39.5"
4i-9i: Callaway '18 Apex MB's with KBS C-Taper 130X at 1/4" long
46: Callaway JAWS MD5 10S
50: Callaway JAWS MD5 10S
54: Callaway JAWS MD5 8C
58: Callaway JAWS MD5 8W
Putter: Kari Lajosi Custom DD201WB

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Tried the ST190 for a while then the ST190G but ultimately set them both aside. Not that I didn't like the head, but didn't dig the Atmos shaft as much as I thought. Got decent results on a launch monitor, but was all over the place on the course. Since I had sold my previous G400LST, I ended up trying out the G410LST (both with the Ping Tour shaft) and love it. I actually give credit to the shaft, and enjoy it so much, I put the 75g version in my Mizuno ST190 3-wood. If it wasn't so easy to keep the Ping driver in play as is, I'd probably put its 65g Tour shaft in the Mizuno driver as well but no sense in fussing with it now.

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Hit the TS3, M5 and ST190G all around the same time. Liked the shape and sound of the M5 way more than the others at first but got a good deal on a 190G with a BF shaft so I went for it. I love it so far, but I do find I'm hitting it out of the heel more than other drivers in the past. Could be a swing or shaft thing who knows. I will say it's held its own far more than I expected with the other 'premier' driver companies.

Mizuno ST190G 8.5° Diamana BF 60TX

Taylormade M6 15° Tensei PW 70TX

Taylormade 2019 P790 UDI Tensei PW 100TX

Mizuno MP20 MMC 4,5 DG X100

Mizuno MP-33 6-PW Nippon SPB X

Taylormade MG2 52°,56° Nippon SPB X

Taylormade Hi Toe Raw Face 60° Nippon SPB X

Odyssey ProType 2 Black

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> @Valtiel said:

> ST190 still in (haven't had it long though). I don't foresee it going anywhere.

 

If you are playing that Diamana X17 in xx flex you sir are a monster. That shaft is so low torque and stout. You have to be hitting that thing straight.

 

 

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TM M4 16.5 VA Composites Drago 75
Epon AF901 19*/22*
PXG 031X Proto CTaper 125 5-P/Ping I500/I210 KBS Tour 125 5-P
PXG 0311 Forged 50/56/60-Scratch 1018 50/53/58
Rife Deep Blue

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never driven the ball straighter, longer . Cobra F9 loyalist. I am still in love with the LTDs but the F9 is impossible to put down. I am back to the back tees now...and i am much older lol

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Ping G400 LST 8.5 Ozik F6M2/Ozik TP6HD/EVO III FUJI
Cobra LTD PRO / Graffaloy Blue
Cobra F6 Baffler  16 Atmos 7
Cobra F6 Baffler 18.5 Atmos 7
Nike Ignite 7 wood 21*
Ping iBlade 3-pw DG XP S300/Original Nike Blades 3-PW s300
RTX 3.0 50,  Ping 3.0 EYE 54, 58 
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F9 was longest when the stars aligned but I found it a block machine at time and a couple of other +HC buddies found the same. It is a ballspeed machine but in the end a bad fit for me given the spin. Picked up 18 yards of carry with a properly fit TS3.

Taylormade Sim 9* Ventus Velo Blue 7x 

Taylormade Sim Max 3W Aldila Rogue 110MSI 70x

Taylormade Sim Max 5W Ventus Velo Blue 7x

Taylormade P7MC 4-PW Dynamic Gold X100

Taylormade MG2 51* SB Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Taylormade MG2 TW 56* + 60* Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Byron Morgan DH89 34.75/70*/2*

Titleist Pro -V1x  or Bridgestone Tour BXS

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> @NDGolfer13 said:

> > @Valtiel said:

> > ST190 still in (haven't had it long though). I don't foresee it going anywhere.

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> If you are playing that Diamana X17 in xx flex you sir are a monster. That shaft is so low torque and stout. You have to be hitting that thing straight.

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Hah, I'm actually not really a monster at all, or atleast I don't consider myself to be. I'm kind of a Chesson Hadley; tall and lanky with long levers for speed. The X'17 is just such an incredibly smooth shaft that I can play it at a stiffer flex for maximum stability without feeling like im swinging rebar. Truly an incredible piece of gear.

Mizuno ST190 9.5* Diamana X'17 70XX || Taylormade M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX
Titleist 915FD 14.25* Kuro Kage 80XTS || Taylormade SIM Ti 16* Kuro Kage 80XTS 
Titleist 915FD 17.25* Kuro Kage 90XTS || Taylormade GAPR Lo 3 20* Kuro Kage 100XTS Hybrid
Callaway X-Forged UT 20* Kuro Kage XT 100TX Hybrid || Taylormade RSI UDI 20* Kuro Kage 100XTS Hybrid
Callaway X-Forged UT 23* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 DPC 5i-7i 27*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Pro Platinum

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OP, I was on the fence regarding these two drivers earlier in the year as well. Went with the F9 due to the Tour Length option and I have been very pleased. Think I could game the ST190 just as easily though. Both drivers look good to my eye at address and both feel solid.....can't imagine one is head and shoulders better than the other if settings are dialed in. About the only thing I preferred about the ST190 over the F9 was the open face......F9 sits square but the ST190 is noticeably more open than just about anything else on the market.

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Started the year out fitted with ST190 w/Atmos Black 6x, coming from G400 w/Accra there was a massive challenge for the Mizzy. After a shaft change back to my heavier Accra and hotmelt, I'm very happy with the extra distance and workability. I realised that I can't play a ball that lacks driver spin as that slightly high toe strike becomes a hook.

SIM 9*, Accra RPG 472 M5+, 46"
M5 15*, Graphite Design AD-DI 8X, 43"
PXG Gen 2 22*, Accra TZx M5, 40"

HMB 4i (22*) Modus 125X
MP20 5-P, Modus 130X
T20 50*7, 54*8,60*6 Modus Wedge 125
Toulon San Diego 33.5"
Srixon XV, or Tour BX/S 

Occasionally throw in a DI over the hybrid, 3i HMB (18*) KBS Proto 85X

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Moved to the ST190 from a G30 LST. I have the stock Atmos Blue 5s, an Atmos Blue 6s and picked up an Elements Chrome as I read on here it was close to the Ping Tour 65 from my G30. I've been playing best with the Chrome recently, but the ST190 is a beast regardless of the shaft. Just so much more consistent with it. Talked a friend of mine into one, too, and he loves his! He switched from an I20. I'm hoping to pick up a GD AD DI-6 to match what I have in my ST190 TS 3W -- which is equally amazing! I don't see these going anywhere anytime soon.

9.5* Mizuno ST190 Fuji Atmos Blue Tour Spec 6(s)
14.5* Adams Speedline 1200ss Matrix HD-7(s)
18* Adams Tight Lies Tour GD AD DJ-7(s)
3-4 Adams CB2 Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 125(s)
5-PW Adams CMB Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 125(s)
53*-10 Mizuno S18 Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 120(s)
58*-4 Mizuno S18 DG Spinner(s)
33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport (Murdered out finish by Continental Golf)

34" Odyssey Toulon San Diego
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