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[Sons_of_Pitches]

@osubuckeyes691   

 

I have not had mine long enough to say whether it has affected my distance control with a ST shaft, but having said that, I did notice a significant weight difference between the stock KBS steel shaft vs the Stability Tour. For more context, I recently sent my DF 2.1 T7 into LAB Golf to have the shaft upgraded to the Stability Tour.  When I received it back, I noticed the putter felt significantly lighter compared to the stock KBS steel shaft.  Long story short, there was an issue w/ the upgraded shaft so, I had to send it back to have it resolved.  In doing so, I was able to speak to the person doing the repair and I mentioned the weight difference I felt and he stated he could adjust the weight to get it back as close to the pre KBS steel weight --- note weight: 124g for KBS Steel shaft and 110g for Stability Tour shaft --- which is a difference of 14g ---- I agreed to have the weight increased.  We shall see how it goes once I get it back from LAB.  I do know that with the KBS shaft distance control wasn't an issue once I got used to the DF 2.1 so, hopefully with the additional increase in weight along with the Stability shaft my distance control will be the same.  I know a few others have mentioned the putter felt light with the Stability Tour shaft and I can definitely concur with that statement.    

Edited February 23, 2021 by Sons_of_Pitches

[Minarets]

33 minutes ago, Sons_of_Pitches said:

@osubuckeyes691   

 

I have not had mine long enough to say whether it has affected my distance control with a ST shaft, but having said that, I did notice a significant weight difference between the stock KBS steel shaft vs the Stability Tour. For more context, I recently sent my DF 2.1 T7 into LAB Golf to have the shaft upgraded to the Stability Tour.  When I received it back, I noticed the putter felt significantly lighter compared to the stock KBS steel shaft.  Long story short, there was an issue w/ the upgraded shaft so, I had to send it back to have it resolved.  In doing so, I was able to speak to the person doing the repair and I mentioned the weight difference I felt and he stated he could adjust the weight to get it back as close to the pre KBS steel weight --- note weight: 124g for KBS Steel shaft and 110g for Stability Tour shaft --- which is a difference of 14g ---- I agreed to have the weight increased.  We shall see how it goes once I get it back from LAB.  I do know that with the KBS shaft distance control wasn't an issue once I got used to the DF 2.1 so, hopefully with the additional increase in weight along with the Stability shaft my distance control will be the same.  I know a few others have mentioned the putter felt light with the Stability Tour shaft and I can definitely concur with that statement.    

I too feel mine is light (with stability shaft). I should receive my putter back today.  Had to send back to LAB to have an issue fixed. I asked while they had it if we could add weight and they told me yes but to try using it longer (only got it first of Jan) before making the change.  It wasn’t a comparison to the other shaft but that it felt light to what I was used to.   
 

I will put with it for a few more weeks before deciding.  

[Schulzmc]

I finally had a chance to get in five rounds of golf in sunny Florida last week. (Eight guys on the trip - one of them the pro from my course.) Before this I had used my LAB putter for four rounds at the end of 2020. Since then I have spent a ton of time rolling putts on my indoor putting green in my basement. Some observations:

 

1. As mentioned above, the American Flag cover is very nice and has loosened up perfectly. On the first day I told the caddy I would take it off and on myself because it was hard to do. By day five it was no longer an issue. Fits great.

2. I got the usual comments: "Does that thing come with a handicapped sticker on it?" and "Isn't that the symbol for the artist formerly known as Prince?" But after a few days the comments stopped and the questions started. "Where do you get one like that?" "What's the deal with lie angle balancing?"

3. I might have had two three putts the whole five rounds. I don't really remember any but I am sure it happened a couple times. Distance control was great. Never missed a two footer. I'm definitely focusing on quiet hands and a nice pendulum arc. Bigger arc for longer putts (instead of more acceleration on the downswing).

4. I wouldn't say I made everything in sight. Maybe an extra 8 footer or two went in. But that coupled with #3 above made all the difference in my putting. I did drop a 30 footer for eagle. That was fun.

5.Two "best of all moments" for me: I had a five foot birdie putt to win a hole and knew it would probably be a skin. Normally that would be a knee-knocker for me. But I pretty confidently got my read and drilled it dead center in the cup. Clearly this putter is giving me the confidence on putts in that range I have never had before. And then, at the end of the trip, my golf pro told me he has never seen me rolling the ball better. He said he didn't necessarily see me draining all kinds of putts, but if I kept rolling the ball that well more would drop.

 

All in all - the putter is here to stay!

[bobbyclampett!!]

6 hours ago, osubuckeyes691 said:

I have a DF 2.1 with Stability Tour shaft. Does anyone else feel like these putters take quite a bit of extra "hit" to get the ball to go the same distance as other putters?

 

I used it for the first time on greens that were running 11+ last weekend and I literally left every putt short. Just felt like the input didn't equal the output

Others have mentioned this. I think the idea is that you are letting gravity do the work, not hitting at all. This means you do probably need a longer stroke than you are used to, as you are not supplying any force through your hands. Also, I could see on 11+ greens with that giant head down there you might be kind of tentative, worried that this giant mass will blast the ball off the green. My understanding is that the head isn't as "massive" as it looks, or doesn't work the same way as torque putters, so you don't have to worry about that giant head blasting the ball off the green. Just go ahead and rock the shoulders and let gravity do the work. You'll figure out how long of a backstroke you need.

[Minarets]

Shipping delays are killing me.  Still don’t have my putter.   I know selfish as there are a lot worse off than me right now but man, my putter was shipped last Monday.  Hope to get it today. Who knows. 

[Sons_of_Pitches]

@MinaretsI feel your pain.  Shipping wait times in general are still "FUBAR" across the nation.

 

 

[iceman1118]

Well I did it. Broomstick 2.1 received. Been using it on my indoor green which has roughly a 12 foot maximum putt length. I am making well over 95% of my putts from all distances. This NEVER happens, including putters I was “fitted” for. No clue how this will translate to outdoor considering it is at least two more weeks until I can see outdoors again due to snow, but I can easily say I am at an all time high with putter confidence. Long story short, this thing is AWESOME. Optimism once the snow melts is sky high. 
 

Here is my question for you guys. I have been doing some launch monitor ball testing this winter, and it looks like my top two balls are tried and true Pro V1 and the Bridgestone Tour BX. Pretty cool how these two balls are basically neck and neck. When I putt with the BX, I am noticing two distinct differences. One, I definitely need to hit it harder. I do not feel that with the Pro V at all. Just take it back and go and distance control is there.  Most putts with the BX are short. And two, the Tour BX does not seem to hold its line the same as the Pro V. I am wondering if that’s more due to the fact that I feel like I have to give it a bit of a hit, therefore “manipulating “ the putter and then I miss. 
 

Has anyone noticed anything like this before?

[Bunkersarebigcups]

1 hour ago, iceman1118 said:

Well I did it. Broomstick 2.1 received. Been using it on my indoor green which has roughly a 12 foot maximum putt length. I am making well over 95% of my putts from all distances. This NEVER happens, including putters I was “fitted” for. No clue how this will translate to outdoor considering it is at least two more weeks until I can see outdoors again due to snow, but I can easily say I am at an all time high with putter confidence. Long story short, this thing is AWESOME. Optimism once the snow melts is sky high. 
 

Here is my question for you guys. I have been doing some launch monitor ball testing this winter, and it looks like my top two balls are tried and true Pro V1 and the Bridgestone Tour BX. Pretty cool how these two balls are basically neck and neck. When I putt with the BX, I am noticing two distinct differences. One, I definitely need to hit it harder. I do not feel that with the Pro V at all. Just take it back and go and distance control is there.  Most putts with the BX are short. And two, the Tour BX does not seem to hold its line the same as the Pro V. I am wondering if that’s more due to the fact that I feel like I have to give it a bit of a hit, therefore “manipulating “ the putter and then I miss. 
 

Has anyone noticed anything like this before?

Maybe the ball "issue" is because the ProV is softer? I always found softer balls to go a bit further off the putter

Edited February 25, 2021 by Bunkersarebigcups

[Minarets]

15 hours ago, Minarets said:

Shipping delays are killing me.  Still don’t have my putter.   I know selfish as there are a lot worse off than me right now but man, my putter was shipped last Monday.  Hope to get it today. Who knows. 

FINALLY!!!!   
 

Better get out and use today.  Rain the next 7 days. 🤬

[Bunkersarebigcups]

3 hours ago, Minarets said:

FINALLY!!!!   
 

Better get out and use today.  Rain the next 7 days. 🤬

Congrats on the Putter and condolences for the Weather forecast.

I still have my fingers crossed that they might find a Factory Second putter in my specs🤞

[bobbyclampett!!]

10 hours ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

Maybe the ball "issue" is because the ProV is softer? I always found softer balls to go a bit further off the putter

That's interesting. I had never thought about that. I usually think of softer balls going shorter, but I could see them bouncing more off the putter and travelling with better energy toward the hole. I have this training ball with red lines and circles on it and it is just a total cheap-o and rolls terribly and I definitely miss with it more than the ProV1. I never thought a ball could make that much of a difference in putting, but I'm starting to believe.

[Bunkersarebigcups]

8 hours ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

That's interesting. I had never thought about that. I usually think of softer balls going shorter, but I could see them bouncing more off the putter and travelling with better energy toward the hole. I have this training ball with red lines and circles on it and it is just a total cheap-o and rolls terribly and I definitely miss with it more than the ProV1. I never thought a ball could make that much of a difference in putting, but I'm starting to believe.

Its certainly not scientifically proven, but I always felt that way when e.g. testing Chrome Soft vs B330. For me it does not matter which one I choose for putting, but if I switch around golf balls during a round, my putting suffers the most.

 

Maybe me, looking for excuses for my sometimes horrendous putting especially from medium distance 😂

Edited February 26, 2021 by Bunkersarebigcups

[iceman1118]

23 hours ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

Maybe the ball "issue" is because the ProV is softer? I always found softer balls to go a bit further off the putter

I am starting to believe that is the case. I think with the DF putter considering I am not purposefully transferring any energy to the ball, just letting the putter work, the softer ball compresses more? Very confusing but it seems to be the case for sure. 

[iceman1118]

12 hours ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

That's interesting. I had never thought about that. I usually think of softer balls going shorter, but I could see them bouncing more off the putter and travelling with better energy toward the hole. I have this training ball with red lines and circles on it and it is just a total cheap-o and rolls terribly and I definitely miss with it more than the ProV1. I never thought a ball could make that much of a difference in putting, but I'm starting to believe.

I’m starting to believe as well. I never noticed any differences when putting with different balls and different types of putters before. Inserts vs milled I could tell some difference. But this is pretty wild in my opinion. And not in a bad way if that makes sense.

 

I’m still testing both balls and probably will for a couple of more weeks, but if this is the case then the Pro V wins for me. I’m putting so well with this putter by letting it work there would be zero reason to play a ball of any kind that requires me to manipulate the putter. And I think in this case, trying to hit a firmer ball harder could cause some issues, especially inside 10-15 feet. 

[bobbyclampett!!]

2 hours ago, iceman1118 said:

I’m starting to believe as well. I never noticed any differences when putting with different balls and different types of putters before. Inserts vs milled I could tell some difference. But this is pretty wild in my opinion. And not in a bad way if that makes sense.

 

I’m still testing both balls and probably will for a couple of more weeks, but if this is the case then the Pro V wins for me. I’m putting so well with this putter by letting it work there would be zero reason to play a ball of any kind that requires me to manipulate the putter. And I think in this case, trying to hit a firmer ball harder could cause some issues, especially inside 10-15 feet. 

I am starting to really see the wisdom in this. I mean, if you think about it, I'm sure if you putt a rubber bouncy ball and a round hard rock that both weighed the same and were the same size with the same amount of force, the rubber bouncy ball would go further. Now that might not be the case for a full swing, as maybe the rubber bouncy ball would just totally smush with too much speed and not go anywhere, while the hard rock would stand up to the greater force better and go further. Whoa, my mind is starting to be blown! I can totally see why the ball would matter for putting now and why some balls might be a better fit for DF2.1 than others. Can't wait to get mine and do some testing on the practice green and course.

 

 

 

[kerila07]

New shaft alert!

[Minarets]

Oh sweet.  Probably would have gotten that one over BST but oh well.  

[JA17]

31 minutes ago, Minarets said:

Oh sweet.  Probably would have gotten that one over BST but oh well.  

Agreed. I like that this new shaft will be up to 50”. I had to add a few inches to my putter to make it work better for me posture wise. 

[Sons_of_Pitches]

On 2/25/2021 at 6:54 PM, bobbyclampett!! said:

training ball with red lines and circles on it

Those balls are the worst for feel and distance control (a rock feels better than those balls).  Ask me how I know!  🙂. That said, I just use a triple track stencil for both training and playing.  Has helped me out considerably with alignment.  Specifically, I use this stencil...

 

[JA17]

Today was the first round I played where I didn’t make a single birdie with my LAB broomstick. But only had one bad putt (a pull about a foot to the left on a 20’ uphill putt). Every other putt started on the line I picked which continues to amaze me. When I missed today, it was speed or misreading the intended line or both. But I made a handful of par saves from 5-10 feet. Also, every putt from distance yielded a kick in 2 putt except for one 3 jack. I used to be the king of 3 putting. Not anymore. Thanks LAB!

[Minarets]

I’m still struggling with my thumbs.  I cannot do the “no thumbs” on the grip.  I’m trying to lay them gently on the grip and then tried resting them on the outsides of the grip.  Still working at it.  

[randr3wb]

Finally got on the course with my putter, and absolutely in love with it.  The tech is for real.  My buddies gave me a hard time on the practice green, but were asking questions at the turn.

 

Can’t say enough good things about the putter.  Well done LAB!!!

[TylerJ89]

I am still struggling to find a grip that feels comfortable and "natural" with this DF2.1.  I have the Press 3* and have been messing around with all sorts of different styles, but still haven't found it.  I have putted left hand low (right handed) for years, and have been with this putter as well, but something feels off with it.  Still a massive fan of this putter though 🔥

Edited February 28, 2021 by TylerJ89

[Bunkersarebigcups]

How long has everybody waited for an answer when asking for a factory second or blemished putter? I do know they just moved, but I am dying as it’s almost been a week🙈

 

edit: just noticed this sounds like a complaint which it is not! Just couriosity. So far very happy with Remote fitting and the customer service

Edited March 1, 2021 by Bunkersarebigcups

[labgolf]

On 2/27/2021 at 3:22 PM, Minarets said:

I’m still struggling with my thumbs.  I cannot do the “no thumbs” on the grip.  I’m trying to lay them gently on the grip and then tried resting them on the outsides of the grip.  Still working at it.  

Do you put the grip more in your life line or more in the fingers?

[labgolf]

On 2/28/2021 at 4:05 AM, TylerJ89 said:

I am still struggling to find a grip that feels comfortable and "natural" with this DF2.1.  I have the Press 3* and have been messing around with all sorts of different styles, but still haven't found it.  I have putted left hand low (right handed) for years, and have been with this putter as well, but something feels off with it.  Still a massive fan of this putter though 🔥

I ended up making a large departure from where I used to be. Used to have a standard reverse overlap and a strong left hand, neutral right hand. Now, thanks to the weirdo shape of the OG, my left hand is very weak and the right hand very strong. Or in other words, both palms worked underneath the shaft. Also, I just use either 10 fingers or a normal overlap/vardon grip. The weak left hand seems to be fairly common. Who knows why!

[labgolf]

18 minutes ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

How long has everybody waited for an answer when asking for a factory second or blemished putter? I do know they just moved, but I am dying as it’s almost been a week🙈

 

edit: just noticed this sounds like a complaint which it is not! Just couriosity. So far very happy with Remote fitting and the customer service

Try emailing Trey directly. [email protected]

[Minarets]

1 hour ago, labgolf said:

Do you put the grip more in your life line or more in the fingers?

The first pic is where I rest the grip in hand.  The second is where I would rest my thumb.  The third is where I’m trying with the 2.1. Didn’t have the 2.1 handy when taking pics but the way I grip is the same. 

[labgolf]

23 minutes ago, Minarets said:

The first pic is where I rest the grip in hand.  The second is where I would rest my thumb.  The third is where I’m trying with the 2.1. Didn’t have the 2.1 handy when taking pics but the way I grip is the same. 

Hmmm. So what are you experiencing when you take your thumbs off the DF?

[Minarets]

6 minutes ago, labgolf said:

Hmmm. So what are you experiencing when you take your thumbs off the DF?

 The pics uploaded in different order.  2nd pic is what I have been trying with 2.1. The bottom is what I typically would use.  
 

when trying the stroke with thumbs off I feel I don’t have control of putter.  My grip pressure is so lite (on all putters) that I feel more focus on thumbs up or off that i don’t confidently can swing the putter.  Putting them thumbs off the side seemed to help the other day somewhat.