WHHHHHAAAA? New Mizuno ST-200, ST-200G and ST-200X Drivers!

[Left Rough]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> > @EHolm said:

> > > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > > > @EHolm said:

> > > > Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

> > > >

> > > > Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

> > > >

> > > > Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

> > > >

> > > > Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

> > >

> > > Was the hybrid the CLK? Or a new model?

> >

> > New model, still named CLK though

>

>

> Gotcha. I loved my CLK but the finish on the face got ate up way too quick.

 

Totally agree. Love the low lofted 16 degree and the thing is a beast, but 1 range session even with decent range balls and the sweet spot looked like I've had the club for 2 years.

 

 

[jrshelby]

Based on USGA no left hand 5W’s and hybrids for the second year in a row.

[Left Rough]

> @EHolm said:

> Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. **However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address.** Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

>

> Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

>

> Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

>

> Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

 

200 G is superdeep and slightly open? Now you have my attention!!!

 

[GolfMinimalist]

Surprised to see a follow up so soon. The ST190 seemed to do very well, at least by Mizuno standards.

[medic7769]

> @dmbrill719 said:

> > @tsecor said:

> > if it aint Callaway, Titleist or TM, it aint a hit as far as drivers go.

>

> Add Ping to that list then that about covers it.

 

I would say, you'd have to add Cobra to that list... especially after the F9 driver kicked so much A** in testing this past year. Apparently the 2020 model is even better. (according to the my golf spy podcast)

[StillCantPutt]

I read through the thread and apologize if I missed it, but when is the release?

[eastriver]

I haven't seen any release (or demo) dates anywhere, yet.

[EHolm]

> @eastriver said:

> I haven't seen any release (or demo) dates anywhere, yet.

 

Release jan/feb, same as everyone else. Fittings should start 2-3 weeks before the release> @"Left Rough" said:

 

> > @EHolm said:

> > Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. **However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address.** Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

> >

> > Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

> >

> > Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

> >

> > Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

>

> 200 G is superdeep and slightly open? Now you have my attention!!!

>

It looks amazing! Def gonna give it a try when it drops

 

[eastriver]

[StillCantPutt]

> @noodle3872 said:

> Pics of the putters have been posted on social media and in other Mizuno topics on here. They look sharp!

 

Where are they located? Tried the search function and can’t find them.

[jrshelby]

Here is the discussion like for the putters!

https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1790182/mizuno-m-craft-putters-need-more-info

[Left Rough]

https://golf.mizunoeurope.com/blog/mizuno-st200-drivers-on-test-at-sea-island/

[jetmech879]

Any word what the new shaft options will be?

[mBiden2]

I’d like to know about this too! Please bring Ventus!

[Hammer22]

No Ventus - it’s too expensive. Stock shaft will be from Mitsubishi if I recall correctly, just don’t remember which model.

[mrmikeac]

I heard Tensei Blue and Atmos again

[jrshelby]

The Ventus, amount other premium shafts, will be available at an up charge.

[Hammer22]

That's what I meant - oops. Not a stock shaft due to cost, but possibly available for the up-charge.

[Dmart33]

I was at a mizuno fitting event and they had a ST200. I had a chance to hit it. I will say this, the new white headcovers look awesome and premium. The rep told me their is a new technology in the face. Although, I was not on a trackman I did notice the ball seemed very fast off the face. I just had a atmos black 6x shaft in it, not a great fit for me, but really liked the flight and workability. I also loved how deep the face is. The rep also told me they are going to offer ALOT more premium shaft options at an upcharge. He flippantly mentioned ventus and AD DIs amongst others. I already play mp20 mmc and t20 wedges so I may be looking at a full mizuno bag.

He also said they are coming out with milled putters, no insert. He said the will blue ion colored putters, as well.

[Eeecc]

I am actually super interested in what this headcover looks like. I really dig the white one for ST180, not so much the black one of ST190. But then again I just love Mizuno’s Staff combination.

Also really interested in the new putter line when they do hit the shelves (please North America release)

[Dmart33]

the st200 headcover is all white and the mizuno logo is black or dark blue, I don’t remember exactly ....very simple and clean looking...it looks very premium in my opinion. I didn’t have much of conversation about the putter line but was just told they are going to have milled putters in the blue ion finish( I already play the blue ion in my wedges)

[Eeecc]

Thank you @Dmart33 For the info. I like blue ion finish too. Could play it all day. Even a blue driver, but has to be Staff blue! ;)

[joshella]

 

https://youtu.be/0YPDfDowatkSome behind the scenes footage from testing at the RSM Classic.

[elwhippy]

These drivers look great. But trying to find one to demo anywhere in my county is impossible.

[noodle3872]

I don’t believe the line-up has been released yet.

[Aucaveman]

I got to hit both the st200 and st200g today. I started with the G, with a diamana shaft. Hitting it pretty good. A little hookie, but good numbers. Switched the shaft to an Atmos, straight as a string. Spin was about 2400 with both weights back. Moved them both to the front, and spin came down to around 2150. Put the atmos in the regular 200, and was just hitting lasers. Carrying on average 280 and rolling to 305. Both drivers sit open (which i like). Not sure exactly what it was, but the adapter has 2 numbers listed at each setting. Obviously one is loft, but the other could be either open/closed, or lie angle. Not sure. I told the rep the standard 200 seemed hotter, and he said they had been getting higher ball speeds off the standard 200. I don't remember any trackman numbers other than spin. Sorry.

[ProjectX]

IIRC it was the same situation with the 180 vs 180G. The regular 180 had higher ball speeds but you could achieve lower spin numbers with the G by putting the weights in the front. So you basically had to choose between low spn or high ball speed. I was really hoping the 200G would be as hot and include the ability to knock down spin this year. Time will tell.

[joshella]

I was at the tour testing last week. Ball speed was the same with both drivers.

Spin can drop very low if needed with the new G. Weights both back in the new 200G is a spin match for both weights forward in the 190G.

[conorgolf22]

I probably missed it, but does anyone know what the price on these will be?

[icandy]

Anyone know if they weight on the st200 can be changed?