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54 minutes ago, Stetson said:

 

 There surely will be those that can hit a 10.5 Max with less spin than a 9 LST. 

Hmmm...  I figured the LST designation came from the fact that it will have less spin than Max, all else being equal? 

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3i - TM P790, GD Tour AD DI 9X

4-PW - Ping i200, DG X100 120

Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 50 (bent to 51) SS, 56 WS, 60 TS

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So I got some time with both drivers on the sim today.  I used a Ping Tour 65 stiff that plays at 45.25” in both drivers, definitely not what I would be using but it’s what I have to work with at the

I'd consult a Dr.  Sounds serious.

Happened to be around when the rep was in the shop.  Love the color combo in person.  Saw the hybrids and fw’s as well.  Turbulators are gone in the fw’s I believe.   Amazing how flat the soles are in

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5 minutes ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

Hmmm...  I figured the LST designation came from the fact that it will have less spin than Max, all else being equal? 

 

All things being equal the LST will spin less.  I was saying that you will have a larger impact on spin than the club.  But all things being equal if the Max spins 400 RPM more at equal lofts that is going to make a lot of people very happy.  Perhaps @Howard_Jones can chime in on what 1.5* in loft can add to the spin rate?  

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Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF)
5w:  Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue)
3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB)
or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI)
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Man that hybrid from address reminds me so much of the Anser! Probably the greatest hybrid I've ever owned! Can't wait to try that thing out.

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3 wood: Mizuno STZ with Fujikura Ventus 7X
Hybrid: Taylormade Rescue 11 with Aldila RIP 85X
Irons: New Level 902 5-PW with DG X100, New Level NLU-01 driving iron Hzrdous Smoke 100 6.5
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1 hour ago, Stetson said:

 

All things being equal the LST will spin less.  I was saying that you will have a larger impact on spin than the club.  But all things being equal if the Max spins 400 RPM more at equal lofts that is going to make a lot of people very happy.  Perhaps @Howard_Jones can chime in on what 1.5* in loft can add to the spin rate?  

So from what we're hearing and seeing so far there isn't going to be a huge difference in spin between LST and Max, and maybe even not a big difference in ball speeds? Sooo, the only real major difference between the LST and Max is in the MOI increase in the Max? In other words, the Max will have lowered the spin and narrowed the gap between it and the LST, while keeping ball speeds and distances that are up near the LST so the Max has all the benefits of the Max and is getting closer to having all the benefits of the LST as well??

Driver - Ping G400 Max 9*, GD Tour AD GP 7X

3W - Ping G400, HZRDS Black 6.5

3i - TM P790, GD Tour AD DI 9X

4-PW - Ping i200, DG X100 120

Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 50 (bent to 51) SS, 56 WS, 60 TS

Putter - L.A.B. B.2

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14 minutes ago, bobbyclampett!! said:

So from what we're hearing and seeing so far there isn't going to be a huge difference in spin between LST and Max, and maybe even not a big difference in ball speeds? Sooo, the only real major difference between the LST and Max is in the MOI increase in the Max? In other words, the Max will have lowered the spin and narrowed the gap between it and the LST, while keeping ball speeds and distances that are up near the LST so the Max has all the benefits of the Max and is getting closer to having all the benefits of the LST as well??

500-700rpm less on the LST 425 vs Max 425

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4 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:

500-700rpm less on the LST 425 vs Max 425

 

Correct.

 

We got off on a tangent because in that specific video review the difference was 450RPM and used a 10.5 Max vs a 9 LST.  

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5w:  Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue)
3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB)
or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI)
4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper)
Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5
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28 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:

500-700rpm less on the LST 425 vs Max 425

The 500-700 less is based off Ping's claims and testing?

 

Do they make a claim about the difference in spin in different lofts of each model?

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Driver - Ping G400 Max 9*, GD Tour AD GP 7X

3W - Ping G400, HZRDS Black 6.5

3i - TM P790, GD Tour AD DI 9X

4-PW - Ping i200, DG X100 120

Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 50 (bent to 51) SS, 56 WS, 60 TS

Putter - L.A.B. B.2

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23 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:


I wasn’t a fan of any of the 425Max Driver videos I’ve seen thus far. 
My local shop echoed the same sound findings in their testing twice that the Max is really loud indoors 


That would be unfortunate considering they added internal rubs specifically to mute the sound. 

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5w:  Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue)
3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB)
or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI)
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6 hours ago, Stetson said:


All things being equal the LST will spin less.  I was saying that you will have a larger impact on spin than the club.  But all things being equal if the Max spins 400 RPM more at equal lofts that is going to make a lot of people very happy.  Perhaps @Howard_Jones can chime in on what 1.5* in loft can add to the spin rate? 

How much spin increases from 1.5* more dynamic loft will depend on CHS.. But pretty close to +400rpm for most. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, therealjonzone said:


I wasn’t a fan of any of the 425Max Driver videos I’ve seen thus far. 
My local shop echoed the same sound findings in their testing twice that the Max is really loud indoors 

 

You know sim golf is starting to take off when people care how their gear sounds _indoors_.

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3 hours ago, keyser said:

How much spin increases from 1.5* more dynamic loft will depend on CHS.. But pretty close to +400rpm for most. 

 

 

So here's a little math. Let me know how wrong it is. All other things being equal, the spin rates should look like this:

 

G425 LST 9* spins x

G425 LST 10.5* spins x+400 (based on 1.5* more of loft than 9* LST)

G425 Max 9* spins x+500 to 700 (based on Ping's claims of difference in spin between LST and Max)

G425 Max 10.5* spins x+900 to 1100 (based on Ping's claims plus 1.5* more of loft)

G425 Max 12* spins x+1300 to 1500 (based on Ping's claims plus 3* more of loft)

 

But then of course the video by Alex shows only an increase of 450 rpm from the 9*LST to the 10.5* Max, so who knows??

 

 

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3W - Ping G400, HZRDS Black 6.5

3i - TM P790, GD Tour AD DI 9X

4-PW - Ping i200, DG X100 120

Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 50 (bent to 51) SS, 56 WS, 60 TS

Putter - L.A.B. B.2

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On 9/6/2020 at 12:51 PM, RacineBoxer said:

 

Prime selling season is Feb-July (at least that's what my Golf Digest interview with Dick's/Golf Galaxy tells me).

The past few years Ping has launched:

G400 July 2017

G700 Feb 2018

i500  July 2018

G410  Feb 2018

G710  Jan 2020

 

See a pattern there? It's July or Jan/Feb.

Ping is dribbling their next big launch out in Japan/Australia but preparing for a big U.S. launch in January. Perhaps they know what they are doing.  I know here in Wisconsin the golf season is coming to an end quickly and I'm not thinking about buying.

Prime selling season (at least at Golfsmith Corporate) was Master's Week to Father's Day ... probably has not changed much ...

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Ping G410 3w 15.5° | Ping G410 3h, 4h, 5h

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On 8/31/2020 at 1:29 PM, benkolde said:

Custom shafts from the website linked above:

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Man I hope that Evo VII is available as an option in the US!

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Callaway Mavrik SZ 15* - Riptide 70 6.5
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1 hour ago, agood3putt said:

Just watched the Alex Etches video and the sound is not good on these which is super disappointing 

 

Be careful when judging the sound when watching videos that were shot inside. Microphone positioning and size of room will heavily influence the sound!

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2 minutes ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

 

Be careful when judging the sound when watching videos that were shot inside. Microphone positioning and size of room will heavily influence the sound!

That’s a fair point. Will definitely still give it a test against my G410. Performance trumps everything in the end 

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On 8/31/2020 at 8:21 AM, mrmikeac said:

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I don't like the number of the iron or the white line on the face.

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Ping G410 17.5 Fujikura Speeder tour spec 84s

Mizzy Mp20 Hmb 4i KBS tour 105s ssx1

Mizzy Mp18mmc 5-p Modus tour 120s

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11 hours ago, gmiller598 said:

I wouldn't expect it. The Speeder V was an option for the G410 in Japan but not here. We'll probably see the same shaft options as Australia. Australia has the Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI instead.


Yuck, but my existing shaft collection for my G410 will drop right in so no big deal.

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Callaway Mavrik SZ 15* - Riptide 70 6.5
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