How *DO you quantify a hacker?

[Baitkiller]

I like to think I'm more of a Chop than a Hacker.

[duffer987]

Gotta change that mindset for a start. Realign your vision. You did not shoot a 100 and then shoot 20 under a 100 and say then shoot 100 again.

You had a couple blow up rounds either side of an 80. Or, for those rounds around 100, really you were only 1 stroke (obscuring, it's 1 stroke per hole) over your target.

And of course, in golf-math, an 80 is 1 shot away from being 30 shots better than 100.

[Oz Max]

A 7 Hcp is better than 96% of the golf population. You have obviously put some time and effort in improving your golf.

[PutterKilledTheDream]

I’d go a step further and say a ‘hack’ is really that player who has absolutely zero etiquette or on-course awareness.

To me the quintessential hack doesn’t even give a shit how bad they are.... nor how or who they’re affecting or impacting. The golfer wonders off into the woods falling behind pace while the rest of the group is putting out looking over their shoulders.

[Paddy_2_Iron]

Haha - Played with a father son combo this year like this. Around hole 12 the guy I was playing with and myself announced to them we were moving ahead they seemed shocked but then got it and said no problem. They were both pissing in the woods after hitting 8 still over 400 out on a par 5. The son had gotten so angry he was trying to pick it clean from the fairway with his TM R1

[Hateto3Putt]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[SNIPERBBB]

The guy doing the same thing every time expecting a different result with all evidence showing it doesn't work.

[Three_Jack]

Kinda seems like you are looking for some sort of affirmation for not being good at golf. The thing about games(golf is a game), is you don't have to be good to have fun playing them. That's the whole point of them.

 

As a 20+, you're objectively a bad golfer. Does that matter? Why are you searching for some approval? Will you be happy if you can say, yeah I suck at golf, but at least I am not a "hack"?

Who cares, people don't enjoy playing with other people because of their game(for the most part). You enjoy someone because they are fun to play with. Whatever "fun to play with" means is very subjective.

For me, I don't give a shit how good or bad you are. I like playing with people that aren't slow, are funny, enjoy listening to music(not required), keep their emotions in check(don't pout the whole round when you're not playing well).

 

Not to mention, being good at golf is completely relative... Compared to you (20+) I'm amazing(9.7). Compared to a scratch player? I'm fucking awful.

Does that mean I need to hear some scratch players tell me, "Oh at least you're not a hack".

BTW, I believe the most definition for a "hack" is just someone who sucks. And that is relative to that person. Pros would consider a 3HCPer a hack.

TLDR: Learn to check your ego(accept yourself and abilities, don't worry about labels), be a courteous and fun playing partner(pace of play, emotions, jokes, etc.)

[Three_Jack]

"A 12, with his name on his staff bag, trying to shoot The cover yardage on the front bunker, who plays blades so he can work the ball, is stuck between a 1 plane and 2 plane swing with an RIT release and hits his 7 iron 172 yards as his stock yardage.....with a baby draw"

 

I get the 12 capper with name on his staff bag thing and the blades thing. But I am confused about the rest. Is he saying a 12 HC shouldn't worry about yardages to carry a bunker or not be carrying a 7 iron 172? Can someone explain?

[AFcelica]

I think the idea is a 12 should be aiming at the middle of the green as they likely only hit 5 per round and isnt exact enough to have anything but a 0 or 5 as the last number of their stock carry. Better yet a range, say 170-175. Also their "baby draw" is probably a 15 yard hook

[MonteScheinblum]

Exactly. Caddies make fun of tour players who don’t have yardages that don’t end in 0 or 5. This point was made the other day with a 6 handicap. He was hitting his 8 iron. He claimed that was his 153 club. His range on 20 shots, throwing away any complete misfits, was 142-155 with 14 of them 142-147. His response, “I guess it’s my 145 club.” BINGO! Shot 75 his next round out.

The 2 salient points here.

 

well over 90% of golfers don’t hit the ball nearly as far as they think and that’s why all the front bunkers are destroyed at the end of the day.Even tour players aren’t exact enough to have a specific yardage. There’s a range around an even number.

[stingerfade]

what if you have your name in sharpie on your Sunday bag?

[Bad9]

C'mon Monte, I guy i know hits his lw exactly 92yds. Exactly. He also has a reputation as a 3hc who has never broken 80 in a tournament ever.

[MonteScheinblum]

LOL....well played sir.

[MMB1500]

Makes a change. Most other 20+ handicappers here drive it 350 and hit their blades as pure as the driven snow, but they "just can't putt...".

[MMB1500]

I would include people who blare out music during the round in that category.

I don't go out to the golf course to listen to other people's sh!t music. Anyway that's a separate discussion.

[DLev45]

Having played both (G700 and i210) they are very different clubs. Toe strikes on the G700 are almost same distance while on the i210 I would lose 10 yds at times. The G700s are the easiest launching irons I have ever played and I do not even need them. I just like how easy they make golf. Started breaking 90 with these 4 of last 5 rounds last year and had only broke 90 1 time before that. I do hate the offset and my miss with these is a pull hook. I have to fight the offset and if they could make these with little to no offset I would buy them in a heart beat. Great irons and the G710s will be no different but a completely different animal than the i210. Although the i210 are awesome irons.Like this.

I present someone who had only broken 90 once. Switches to SGIs and plays 4 of 5 rounds in the 80s.

Still somehow thinks that SGIs aren't something he needs. They must be for those "other" people.

[nsxguy]

A guy who has trouble breaking 100 and still insists he's a 19 handicapper.

[TIM929]

that freakin group that tee'd off right behind a group on a jammed packed muni 1st tee with no one in front of them by 3rd hole. They slow down all of LA and always rush off to the next tee when you pull close to the greens.... bunch of yellow belly hacks.

[Paddy_2_Iron]

Went to the range today to solidify the driver. Bought a large bucket, not one ball hit with an iron, all tee'd up and bombed. The key to a big drive is letting those arms remain loose, at least for me. Let the body do all the work and head flies through the zone. I think I am swinging north of a 100 now taking the tension out of my arms.

That ball is flying!

Is this the same sensation you want for irons?

[Londoner]

I think loose arms is the answer, the looser the better.

I had my elbows removed and ball joints fitted. I've never driven it better. However, I do struggle putting as the putter just flops around.

[Reds]

A hack is a guy that posts on GolfWRX about how he drives the ball long, 240, and straight then posts the same day about going to the range to solidify the driver like its giving him trouble

[Krt22]

No need to worry about the tops, worm burners, hooks, and skulled bunker shots when you can hit the long ball.

[HitEmTrue]

Paddy, did you get a different driver?

 

[Londoner]

No! No don't, please don't.

[iteachgolf]

Funny thing is all this may be happening at the range I’m at

[Hawkeye77]

LOL, the beverage of your choice if it is Paddy and you go over and start having him focus on his grip. ;-)

[Krt22]

The truly ironic part is all the ailments he is describing sound like an open club face issue lol.

[Paddy_2_Iron]

I'm not really in a financial situation to do that right now. Once I am back in the work force and making some scratch I'll think about it, but the one dood wants to sell his PXG, so I may get those first. But eventually I want to get a new driver. I like they M6 driver head that thing is a beast, but the MF driver has been serving me well the last 2 rounds.

Whatever I get it's going to have a super charged shaft. I want to turn this strength into a big time strength. I've been watching some long drive guys and looking at their stretching and fitness routine. I'm thinking about using my natural speed and seeing how high I can get it. I would love to go up there and crush bombs 290. That would be better than shooting par.

This year is all driver practice and some chipping and putting (free). But once I am comfortable with the driver I want to really work on the second shot. In fact once that time comes I'll get a swing instructor to help me work on my approach game. I want to hit GIR's a lot. I can already putt.

[Paddy_2_Iron]

Open club face hooking irons? I strengthened my grip on the driver to a true neutral lead hand and a strong trail hand. The ball is either straight or slight fade, draw has been eliminated.