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4 hours ago, BubbaBallesteros said:

The i59 are the iBlade replacement. If you look at PINGs trademarks, they have i525 and i230. Those will be the replacements for the i500 and i210, respectively.

 

I'm sure we'll see replacements for the i210s, but it's not uncommon for a company to trademark terms to remove them from competitors' use.

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1 hour ago, chip75 said:

 

I'm sure we'll see replacements for the i210s, but it's not uncommon for a company to trademark terms to remove them from competitors' use.

 

just to further that, ping also trademarked iblade 2.0 even tho it seems like these are iblade replacements, so some trademark won’t be in play.

 

what makes these as unlikely to be i210 replacements isnt the trademarks, its that in the photos where the i59 are in the same bag as iblades, the i59 look slightly thinner than the iblades. so given how much smaller the ibaldes are than the i210 its hard to imagine and even smaller club being i210 replacements. 

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13 minutes ago, doublehans said:

 

just to further that, ping also trademarked iblade 2.0 even tho it seems like these are iblade replacements, so some trademark won’t be in play.

 

what makes these as unlikely to be i210 replacements isnt the trademarks, its that in the photos where the i59 are in the same bag as iblades, the i59 look slightly thinner than the iblades. so given how much smaller the ibaldes are than the i210 its hard to imagine and even smaller club being i210 replacements. 

This has been the most logical statement in this thread. 

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2 hours ago, doublehans said:

 

just to further that, ping also trademarked iblade 2.0 even tho it seems like these are iblade replacements, so some trademark won’t be in play.

 

what makes these as unlikely to be i210 replacements isnt the trademarks, its that in the photos where the i59 are in the same bag as iblades, the i59 look slightly thinner than the iblades. so given how much smaller the ibaldes are than the i210 its hard to imagine and even smaller club being i210 replacements. 

 

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4 hours ago, doublehans said:

 

just to further that, ping also trademarked iblade 2.0 even tho it seems like these are iblade replacements, so some trademark won’t be in play.

 

what makes these as unlikely to be i210 replacements isnt the trademarks, its that in the photos where the i59 are in the same bag as iblades, the i59 look slightly thinner than the iblades. so given how much smaller the ibaldes are than the i210 its hard to imagine and even smaller club being i210 replacements. 


I agree. The i210’s are so popular, on tour and off tour. That club is a classic IMO. I’d imagine whatever they replace it with, the body/chassis will be very similar, and it’ll have to live up to the i210. I trust PING, I think the extra wait time will be worth it and pay off for us and for tour players. I hope! 

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6 hours ago, doublehans said:

 

just to further that, ping also trademarked iblade 2.0 even tho it seems like these are iblade replacements, so some trademark won’t be in play.

 

what makes these as unlikely to be i210 replacements isnt the trademarks, its that in the photos where the i59 are in the same bag as iblades, the i59 look slightly thinner than the iblades. so given how much smaller the ibaldes are than the i210 its hard to imagine and even smaller club being i210 replacements. 

Yeah I was caught up with the iBlade 2.0 trademark too but one member pointed out that the iBlade 2.0 trademark was older than the Blueprint trademark. 

 

So they probably decide the change the naming schemes after the fact. 

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1 hour ago, BubbaBallesteros said:

Yeah I was caught up with the iBlade 2.0 trademark too but one member pointed out that the iBlade 2.0 trademark was older than the Blueprint trademark. 

 

So they probably decide the change the naming schemes after the fact. 

100% agree. Marketing had to have something bookmarked.

 

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On 4/28/2021 at 5:02 AM, BubbaBallesteros said:

The i59 are the iBlade replacement. If you look at PINGs trademarks, they have i525 and i230. Those will be the replacements for the i500 and i210, respectively.

 

This have been discussed 10x on this forum already. 

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

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3 minutes ago, shoreline9 said:

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

About a year ago, I posted on Golfwrx that I could see something like this happening,when they thinned out the G425.  There wasn't a tremendous amount of space between the iBlade and i2xx series.  I thought they might make the long irons slightly bigger than the iBlade and reduce the offset from the i2xx.  There already was not much difference in the short irons.

 

From a product standpoint, the Blueprints hold down the pure player slot, the i59 anchors the middle and the G425 on the forgiveness side.  Nice and clean.

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1 minute ago, Foreleft said:

About a year ago, I posted on Golfwrx that I could see something like this happening,when they thinned out the G425.  There wasn't a tremendous amount of space between the iBlade and i2xx series.  I thought they might make the long irons slightly bigger than the iBlade and reduce the offset from the i2xx.  There already was not much difference in the short irons.

 

From a product standpoint, the Blueprints hold down the pure player slot, the i59 anchors the middle and the G425 on the forgiveness side.  Nice and clean.

spot on. the goal is to bring clarity on the entire line for the consumer by removing any overlap. 

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1 hour ago, shoreline9 said:

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

 

this is the only correct answer I can think of at this point, however, I think it's pretty disappointing and hope it's not true. The S series players irons have been some of the best players irons ever made (s55, s56, iblade), they are classics that will go down as some of the best players irons ever made. They had slim looks and surprising forgiveness for the size and tons of guys on tour played them, even players that weren't with Ping. 

 

Only thing I can think of is iblade/s series is being temporarily filled by blueprint and will make a return as the blueprint replacement comes out in the future.

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2 hours ago, shoreline9 said:

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

 

Do you have inside information or is this your estimation?  

 

Ping does have a lot of model's these days so it wouldn't totally surprise me to see them consolidate, but considering this i59 is forged, and that typically means higher cost, it would surprise me a little to see Ping aim them at the i210's market, which is more price sensitive than the market for clubs like the Blueprint or iblade.

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9 minutes ago, Nessism said:

 

Do you have inside information or is this your estimation?  

 

Ping does have a lot of model's these days so it wouldn't totally surprise me to see them consolidate, but considering this i59 is forged, and that typically means higher cost, it would surprise me a little to see Ping aim them at the i210's market, which is more price sensitive than the market for clubs like the Blueprint or iblade.

But the G425, which has slimmed down and remains cast, fills this space.

 

It has been said that the i59 is the "iron to rule them all."  In that context, collapsing the iBlade and i2xx makes sense.  Also makes sense why the "i" is affixed to the numbering scheme usually associated with the "s" series.  And the "59" means something to Ping, as that is when they are founded.  Maybe signaling to all that this is a special iron.

 

Or, it could all be a load of crap and they came up with this some night, after a long night at the bar.

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2 hours ago, shoreline9 said:

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

 

IF this is true, then make a matching UW and take my $$$.

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27 minutes ago, Foreleft said:

But the G425, which has slimmed down and remains cast, fills this space.

 

It has been said that the i59 is the "iron to rule them all."  In that context, collapsing the iBlade and i2xx makes sense.  Also makes sense why the "i" is affixed to the numbering scheme usually associated with the "s" series.  And the "59" means something to Ping, as that is when they are founded.  Maybe signaling to all that this is a special iron.

 

Or, it could all be a load of crap and they came up with this some night, after a long night at the bar.

It does not. Simple as that. You Act as if you have insider infos. Do you? If Not, please make clear in your posts that you are simply speculating

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21 minutes ago, Foreleft said:

But the G425, which has slimmed down and remains cast, fills this space.

 

It has been said that the i59 is the "iron to rule them all."  In that context, collapsing the iBlade and i2xx makes sense.  Also makes sense why the "i" is affixed to the numbering scheme usually associated with the "s" series.  And the "59" means something to Ping, as that is when they are founded.  Maybe signaling to all that this is a special iron.

 

Or, it could all be a load of crap and they came up with this some night, after a long night at the bar.

G425 and i210 are two completely different animals.  I agree with others that the i59 looks to be an iblade replacement.  The design style even lends itself to blend with Blueprint!  And with the added tech inside, but with a slimmer profile would create an even more "players" stye iron than iblade.  That's my wish anyway🤪

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8 hours ago, shoreline9 said:

Sorry, not true. i59 replace i210. i525 will replace the i500. i59 will be slightly more compact than i210. iblade will be phased out. 

Why would PING trademark i230 last month then? Are they going to change the i2xx range naming to i59 then go back to i230? 

 

The i59 are going to fit right in between the Blueprint and the i2xx.

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6 hours ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

It does not. Simple as that. You Act as if you have insider infos. Do you? If Not, please make clear in your posts that you are simply speculating

 

This is a discussion board, which sometimes incorporates speculation and gasp, opinion.  But maybe a representative for Ping will be along to confirm it all.  Wait here, they will be along very soon.

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4 hours ago, Foreleft said:

See, I told you they would be along shortly.

My bad then, sorry.

 

Still confused as I always thought iBlade and i210 went along great and were the most played iron on tour. I hope i59 is as forgiving as i210 then because those were a unicorn.

 

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If it is a split set of some kind of techy long/mid irons and solid short irons, then I suppose it could be some kind of super combo set = longer irons are like i500 series, mid irons are like i-200 series and short irons are like iblades/BPs. Like a combo set without all the hassle of deciding where to combo or how to adjust lofts to gap. Maybe there will be a marketing emphasis on how they put a lot of thought into how the set blends perfectly. This could be where the rumors of "one set to rule them all" and "not a direct replacement of anything" are coming from. Personally, i like my idea. I do not love combo sets, but I think my game needs them. 

 

I suppose this has been done before with P760's and JPX 921 Forged as examples, but those are both two great sets of irons. Something like this with PING's special sauce and a little sprinkle of "premium" would be very interesting. Just a very well-thought out, engineered set like this appeals to me. 

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The g410 and g710 is the gap that needs altered. They are almost identical in size. I've owned both.  I really hope ping doesn't move away from the I series chassis. It shouldn't be hard to have a series with a 75mm blade length for elite players. 78-79mm for low handicaps. Then 81-83mm for mid and finally 85+ for high. 

 

The i210s are in that 81mm range. Leave them alone and create it's successor. I admit I'm biased. I like irons in the 79-83mm range. P790, i210, and HM pro look perfect to me. Anything less and I start getting nervous. 

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I210& iBlade  are still available through fitters. I500 is not. Super weird circumstances as no one thinks i59 is i500 replacement (I agree with that speculation)

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